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DrModem
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Re: hmmm.....

said by RVAguy:

Evidence? Really? Are you privy to every Top Secret inititiative set forth by our gov't?
Are you? You sure act like it.
said by RVAguy:

How about your ass is still alive? Ah, thats not good enough.
How about correlation is not causation?

I'm sure on September 10th 2001 you would have been making this argument just as grandly, only to have a huge terrorist attack the next day. The fact is, you have NO FACTUAL EVIDENCE as to whether there hasn't been terrorist attacks because the government is protecting you or because the terrorists haven't decided to do one.
said by RVAguy:

Show me your proof where your rights were violated...oh wait, you cant...
Show him your proof that his rights weren't violated...oh wait, you cant...

RVAguy
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RVAguy

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Well I could listen to 2 administrations who have both said that these programs have stopped attacks. Two administrations on the opposite ends of the political spectrum....

I don't need to show proof... If you are the making the accusation, then the onus is on you to prove it...

manfmmd
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Earth, TX

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Thwarted terrorists attacks, by accident or by investigation:

»www.heritage.org/researc ··· 2085.cfm
Criticisms of post-9/11 efforts to protect the United States from attack range from claims that America is more vulnerable than ever to the contention that the transnational terrorist danger is vastly over-hyped. A review of publicly available information on at least 19 terrorist conspiracies thwarted by U.S. law enforce­ment suggests that the truth lies somewhere in between these two arguments.
JFK Plot, June 2007
Fort Dix Plot, May 2007
Liquid Explosives Plot, August 2006
Assem Hammoud, July 2006
Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Stanley Grant Phanor, Naudimar Herrera, Burson Augustin, Lyglenson Lemorin, and Rotschild Augstine, June 2006
Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, April 2006
Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi, Zand Wassim Mazloum, February 2006
Michael C. Reynolds, December 5, 2005
Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson, Hammad Riaz Samana, and Kevin James, August 2005
Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat, June 2005Yassin Aref and Mohammed Hossain, August 2004
James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj, August 2004
Dhiren Barot, August 2004
Virginia "Jihad" Network, June 2003
Iyman Faris, May 2003
Lackawanna Six, September 2002
Jose Padilla, May 2002
Richard Reid, December 2001

Not to mention the two recent thwarted attacks in Dallas and Denver/NYC.

Dallas plot: »news.google.com/news/sea ··· las+plot

Denver/NYC Plot: »news.google.com/news/sea ··· nyc+plot
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