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Melleen
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Re: [ Classes] Holy Priest Raid Healing

said by Treebark:

said by Melleen:

The have Tranquility and Wild Growth. Two HoT's
I LOLOLOL'ed at Tranquility.
Why, Tranquility is not a AoE Healing spell?

Treebark
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Havelock, NC

Treebark

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Used once every 8 minutes and covers your party. An AOE heal used for very specific occasions in raids and we would be fine with out it.

So saying Tranquility would pump up our numbers or be a part of our rotation is lol'able.

Melleen
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Melleen

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said by Treebark

So saying Tranquility would pump up our numbers or be a part of our rotation is lol'able.
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Thank you. I just wanted to know if you could actually read.

All I wrote was Druid AoE spells. As I was wondering why he was crying for not being able to heal like a druid. that's it. Nothing about pumping numbers or part of a rotation. There is no rotation in healing, btw.

Treebark
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Havelock, NC

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Treebark

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Yes, I can read, you said 2 HoTs, not 2 druid AoE spells. And tranquility is party specific channelled spell only used in specific situations. A druid raid healing is the closest healer to a set rotation with a swiftmend/nourish thrown in from time to time on a tank or a raid member who is about to die.

A priest would have 4 AoE heals, Nova, PoM, CoH, and PoH.

Edit: We actually have 4 hots, not 2. 5 if you want to count a channelled Tranquility which is not applied to a character but a party member who recieves the benefit if they are in range of the druid.

Melleen
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Melleen

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Thank you. You clarified that you can't read. I am done.

OP. You are not a druid, you will never heal like a druid and if you think a 6 sec CD on one spell is the breaking point of a Priest, roll a druid.

If you can't find a group because you think it's because you are a priest, group with friends. I love priest healing and there is nothing wrong with it. I've done ICC 10. As a shaman I was MT healer and she was raid healing as holy priest. Why? Because that's what we had. I was also MT healing healing while the druid was raid healing, why? Because that's what we had. We made it work.

Just group with friends and stop basing your "facts" on trade chat and what you perceive as the "majority of groups roll with" mentality. Play your priest, roll with people that actually want to group with you or roll a druid.

Cheers
Hrothgordo
join:2010-02-03
Beverly, MA

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Did someone actually suggest Crit/SP gems? Because if they did, that popping sound you heard was Adalicia’s head exploding.

As to “all” priest speccing Body & Soul, I would love to see that Disc build.

I also love all the love Disc is receiving now from everyone.

The same people that “crapped” on us for being low on Recount. The ones who jeered us until they attempted Steelbreaker HM. Heck, so many continued until you read about the LK fight.

It will be interesting to see how many stick with that build when it isn’t the flavor of the month (or flavor of the instance). At a gear reset it will always look low, because we scale more slowly then other healers (however we just never really plateau).

I wonder how many will still be defending the build at that point?

Melleen
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Melleen

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No, this went from "6 sec CD, how will I heal with my priest and nobody wants a priest healing (all Holy) to

This is how to play/spec/gem a priest (regardless of spec). Lots of bad info here, go to the other thread. for the real deal.

People just don't stay on track....

eve8
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said by Treebark:

Used once every 8 minutes and covers your party. An AOE heal used for very specific occasions in raids and we would be fine with out it.

So saying Tranquility would pump up our numbers or be a part of our rotation is lol'able.
Is this pre-4.0.1.

Tranquility is a more powerful version of Divine Hymn. It's a VERY powerful spell that ANY druid can use on "oh shit" occasions.

It's not party wide anymore. It's raid wide. Each time it heals, it heals the lowest 5 people at that point in time... in addition to placing a HoT on them.

Tirael
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Tranquility and Divine Hymn do the same exact things now. They both heal the lowest 5 targets within a 40 yard range of the caster.

That being said, if a druid is outhealing you in raid heals, then you are either slacking or that druid is better at being a druid than you are at being a priest.

I JUST started healing as a priest in Feb of this year (go check out Naerityah-Drak'Tharon and look up my "Level 80" achievement). I have played all three specs at a pretty decent level (9/12 H and RS 25 pre-4.0). Our BiS resto druid still has trouble keeping up with my healing, whether I am disc or holy.

Being a priest, means you are NOT a specialized healer. You DO NOT have a niche like a h pally with tank heals or a resto druid with raid heals. Your job as a priest is to SUPPORT those two classes in what they do. You have so many different tools between CoH, ProM (only heal of its type in game), PoH, PW: S (most powerful of its type) Penance, PS and so on depending on spec. What a GOOD priest can do for a raid is what only a GOOD priest can do for a raid, which is provide support spot healing, damage reduction and specialized damage reduction/buffs.

You cannot come into these forums and say "I am not matching up to a druid healer on the meters..OH NOES WHAT DO I DO??!?!?!" and expect many people to take you seriously. That falls into a L2P category. If you are going to check meters, make sure you are tracking absorbs. As holy, when you bubble someone, it counts as a "heal".

Another thing, the only place a shaman fits in as a raid healer is a 10 man. In 25, targets are too spread out for CH to be an effective raid heal and becomes more effective as a TANK heal (because tanks are usually stacked on top of each other).

As holy, you want to be keeping track of your CoH CD, while using Renew and FH to your advantage. Using FH on SoL procs is great, but is NOT the only time to use it. For now, FH is your go to spot heal, until we get into level 85 content, where heal will take it's place. FH will then become an emergency heal used to bring someone back up from the brink death quickly. CoH should be used on CD and PoH should only be used for TIMED damage, such as Festergut's Pungeant Blight.

Honestly, you need to learn to use your heals more effectively before you start complaining. You should also learn what other healers can actually do. Anyone who tells you that a healing class is just a "raid healer" or just a "tank healer" is giving you bad information. If you are the one stating this, you need to learn about the other healing classes before you make ignorant assumptions.

Treebark
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This thread was prior to 4.01.

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Completely agree with Tirael. I was a holy priest all through WotLK and on fights where the whole raid is not taking lots of dmg or not taking dmg consistently, I didn't care about numbers. But on fights that were raid healing intensive, I would only find a few druids or shammies that beat me by about 5% in numbers because they had me beat in gear. Usually just by having more haste. Druids, Shamans, and Priests are all capable of pumping out massive aoe or raid healz if they know how to maximize their healz and itemization properly. I personally liked to max as much haste and spirit for holy to increase numbers. Healing is more about having a great UI and response to someone/group taking dmg or about to take dmg(pre-cast PoH).

I understand numbers for healing don't mean much but when considering 3 different classes capable of raid healing well, and considering only fights where the whole raid takes lots of dmg or consistently keeps taking dmg, numbers do show who is capable of most throughput

Blackwinder
join:2010-04-28
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said by Treebark:

This thread was prior to 4.01.
I have yet to log into WoW. Its been 2 weeks and I have to wait untill 3 Nov before I can. Tree is right.
Lets all go to: » Mental Agility: The Priest Thread (4.X.X)
Its whats for dinner.