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<description><![CDATA[Oinktastic posted : Yea, I guess I've had my head in the sand. I'm too much of an idealist.<br><br>Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next one. I hope they continue asking those questions that he cannot answer lol]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[neuromancer1 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1252872" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1252872');">Oinktastic</a>:</said><p>Man, that's frustrating to listen to. The MPs' questions aren't answered fully, or are deflected continuously until time is up.<br><br>Politics must be easy. All you have to do is never actually give a straight answer. Not many jobs where you can get away with that if your boss is half competent (and you're not in a union I guess).<br><br>I found myself yelling at my monitor a few times.<br> </p></div>Since when where politicians ever competent remember Reagan and the oh I forget because the jelly beans? Come on we are taking about the lowest life forms on earth next to lawyers. Even dung beatles and cockroaches are higher life forms then lawyers and politicians. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bigdaddymac posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1221914" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1221914');">taytong888</a>:</said><p>Rambling! Bumbling!<br><br> </p></div>he mumbles because he doesn't have an answer to the questions.<br>finK figures it got him this far in life, what the bhell.<br>but he thought wrong.<br> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Oinktastic posted : Man, that's frustrating to listen to. The MPs' questions aren't answered fully, or are deflected continuously until time is up.<br><br>Politics must be easy. All you have to do is never actually give a straight answer. Not many jobs where you can get away with that if your boss is half competent (and you're not in a union I guess).<br><br>I found myself yelling at my monitor a few times.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[taytong888 posted : Initial impression:<br><br>Rambling! Bumbling! Incompetent! Biased!<br> :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[corster posted : Cap on Performance was 60gb before the introduction of Fibe, and I think your timeframe was correct.<br><small>--<br>Ontario can lead again - Tim Hudak in 2011<br>Save Canadian Internet - StopUBB.ca</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fatness posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1771139" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1771139');">bigdaddymac</a>:</said><p>btw, when is the next hearing ?<br>isn't there 1 with bell this week ?<br> </p></div>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r25443539-House-of-Commons-Standing-Committee-on-Industry-Info">House of Commons Standing Committee on Industry - Info</A><br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.theonion.com/articles/chimp-in-cocaine-study-starts-lying-to-friends,17176/">I don't have a problem!</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bigdaddymac posted : btw, when is the next hearing ?<br>isn't there 1 with bell this week ?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bigdaddymac posted : yea it's so blatantly obvious that he hasn't done any research and rely's entirely on bell for all the data. at least everyone knows now what the problem has been for the past ten years regarding internet regulation.<br>time to give this job to someone else..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ragingwolf posted : I just finally watched the whole thing... god Konrad is such a tool.  He says at one point he "agrees with the cap being too low", although somehow I think he's now just saying that because of the insane public backlash this is now putting on the CRTC.  And the way he just continually sticks to the point "Bell imposed the caps on their own users, only fair we do the same for wholesale"... it just makes me want to puke.  Can't they actually make their own damn decision on evidence they research themselves?  Why are they so reliant on "Bells data"? /slams head on desk<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cpac.ca/forms/index.asp?dsp=template&act=view3&pagetype=vod&hl=e&clipID=5030" >www.cpac.ca/forms/index. &middot;&middot;&middot; pID=5030</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Haraway posted : If anyone wants to watch this on the teevee, it's on CPAC right now. Oh joy. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bigdaddymac posted : thx Keeper!<br><br>post more! post more!<br><br>fer sure next week :)<br><br>lmao]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[mactalla posted : I've written a document I hope will help the MPs understand the issue since KvF was so incompetent during question period.  Anyone here with a good grasp of the situation willing to look it over?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[drjp81 posted : I'm sending out your membership card as I write this. Welcome to the "the CRTC is completely out of whack, we know it." club.<br><small>--<br>Cheers!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[IIgs posted : Just finished watching the entire hearing from beginning to end (missed it live yesterday). It's actually the first time I've heard Von Finckenstein speak. <br><br>Wow, either this fellow is incredibly stupid, or just incredibly corrupt. I'm leaning towards the latter since he was evading very valid and direct questions, like simply asking how he came up with the numbers for a 15% discount. Or when asked why Bell's IPTV is exempt from Usage Based Billing, he claimed it's a different service that gets routed differently. Bullshit. Just because it goes from the phone line to a digital receiver, versus the phone line to your desktop computer does not magically transform what it is. It's as stupid an argument as saying if I plug in a dial-up modem into my phone line and call Hong Kong for 16 hours, it is excluded from long distance charges because it's a different service. Or different piece of technology "touching" the phone line. I'm surprised he didn't just claim it goes through different pipes! It's anti-competitive, damn plain and simple.<br><br>Just hearing him gave me the impression of a sleazy and underhanded individual. Plus mumbling his way through many questions and speaking uncomprehensible gibberish at times made me think he doesn't quite grasp technology in general either. The other guy who measured download bandwidth in "Gigahertz" was just beautiful too. Who needs comedy shows in Canada? Just watch the CRTC speak on CPAC. ;)<br><br>Mr. Finckenstein needs to be forced to step down. Someone neutral, concerned about the public's best interest (and comprehensive of technology maybe?) needs to be in his place. Makes me wonder how someone like him got to be where he is, probably more corruption and bribes under the table (and yes, I would not be surprised in the least if he was bribed. Again, how can anyone be so obtuse to questions and points being raised? Doesn't add up...something rotten is going on here).<br> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/1244504890/ID=1779426903" >www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/ &middot;&middot;&middot; 79426903</A><br><br>another pannel that doesn't really understand what's going on...especially the host and the guy from The National Post..people from the National Post are bunch of idiots, first Terrence Cocoroach now this guy Ivan thinks Bell is doing a favor to the small ISP.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/1244504890/ID=1779426903" >www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/ &middot;&middot;&middot; 79426903</A><br><br>Tony Clement actually says some good things, and he took the argument of George Burger haha landland]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[keeperlink9 posted : Please help organize wiki. We need to help put those guys from yesterday's show  - &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r25437422-Wiki-for-for-our-politicians-on-Internet-facts">Wiki for for our politicians on Internet facts</A><br><br>Wiki link: &raquo;<A HREF="http://internet-ca.wikispaces.com/" >internet-ca.wikispaces.com/</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[donl posted : You can watch it on-demand from the cpac site (cpac.ca).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[elwoodblues posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1279988" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1279988');">Takobo</a>:</said><p>What they broadcast online? it consumes my bandwidth. it's gonna strain the network. please, burn the whole show into a DVD, then mail it to all Canadians!!! sorry, canpost postman... i knows it's heavy, but it's too costly for me to watch online. <br> </p></div>Oops you just went over your cap.. sorry, see you next month<br><small>--<br>Jake: "Four fried chickens, and a coke" Elwood: "And some dry white toast, please"</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[keeperlink9 posted : Here's highlights from the hearing video:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r25439472-Video-highlights-of-KvF">Video highlights of KvF</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kovy7 posted : What I want to know is, what's a heavy user. <br><br>Those 15% heavy user, cause 80% of the bandwidth.<br><br>Now are all these heavy user from "Small ISP" or is there any from Bell that has UBB. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[singh01 posted : Lol<br>"We have alot of competition in telecom industry" <br>I cant stop laughing when he says that]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[En Enfer posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by PPLFTW :</said><p>&raquo;<A HREF="http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/02/02/terence-corcoran-the-25-gigabyte-internet-myth/#more-10319" >opinion.financialpost.co &middot;&middot;&middot; re-10319</A> can you believe this? this guy is still spreading bullshit he must work for BELL or something, this is like the third article based on absolute LIES</p></div>Amateur journalist? He's not even doing his job...<br><br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>If the cable and phone giants are out to slash Internet caps to 25 GB, why did Vidéotron in Quebec, effective Tuesday, announce an increase in its high-end capacity at what looks to me to be lower prices than Bell. Basic Internet starts at $28.95. For its $55.95 package, Vidéotron boosted the upload speed to 1.5 megabits per second and the volume total to 120 GB from 100. At the high end, for $82.95, speed was increased by one mbps to three mbps and capacity from 125 GB to 150.<br><br>These are not the moves one expects from an industry that is allegedly moving in the other direction.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>He intentionally overlooked the regular high-speed internet offer, and talk about Vidéotron's 56$ package which is has no wholesale DSL equivalent. Why should we care about big corporation's 100Mbit packages in this matter? This is not the issue here.<br><br>What an idiot!<br><small>--<br>Tell your children over dinner, "Due to the economy, we are going to have to let one of you go."</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[heredago posted : When has Bell started to impose a 25 GB cap to it's I assume most popular plan aka "Fibe 6" ?  [[[I found Feb 1st, 2010]]]<br><br>What was the cap of its old most popular plan, before the introduction of "Fibe" ?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[drjp81 posted : I really don't want to cross post like this, but all you guys have great retorts for Von Loserstein. <br><br>It would be a shame to let it go to waste. PLease see my link.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r25437190-Link-Liberal-party-wants-your-questions-to-grill-the-CRTC">Link: Liberal party wants your questions to grill the CRTC</A><br><small>--<br>Cheers!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[daowen posted : I just left buddy a nice comment.  Hope that hits home and wakes him up:<br><br>I have read what you have posted and must comment, your figures are encompassing not only those with caps, but those without.<br><br>Usage Based Billing is really the incumbents way to protect their own offerings. Bell is looking at protecting IPTV, a very network heavy application that they have rolled out. The cable companies are trying to protect their "Stream to TV" products that are also very network heavy applications.<br><br>What is all this UBB really about? It is about the last mile of connection from the Central Office that Bell Canada has to the consumer. To be technical about it a little, it is from their DSLAMS to the modem. That is the same area that their IPTV will be using in order to deliver such a product.<br><br>The consumer would be less angry if the following was applied:<br><br>1 - Billing that encompassed everything (Yes IPTV is bandwidth and should also be subject to UBB)<br>2 - Fair pricing (it costs approximately $0.02 to deliver 1 GB, why charge so much)<br>3 - Fair access to speed (Bell only allows GAS members 5 MBs, less then their own offerings)<br><br>Natural Gas and Electricity supply are not a good business model to judge against internet access, why not use the correct ones, Telephone Land Lines and TV Transmissions.<br><br>Using the correct model means we have the right way of using metrics and measurement to show the actual way of billing for an item. Using these metrics and measurements we can see that if you talk on your land line phone for 3 minutes, your bill will be the same as your neighbors who's phone racked up 300 minutes.<br><br>Using the correct model for Cable TV, you watch 3 minutes of TV and you pay the same as your neighbors who watched 300 minutes.<br><br>Use the right metrics and measurements and maybe we will agree. Use a non money grab billing practice and we will agree.<br><br>As stated in last nights CRTC question period "A friend of mine told me that they have to start downloading at work because they have been hit with a cap..." tells you that the people are not downloading less, they are just finding other ways to download.<br><br>Read more: &raquo;<A HREF="http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/02/02/terence-corcoran-the-25-gigabyte-internet-myth/#ixzz1CzqCa8bz" >opinion.financialpost.co &middot;&middot;&middot; CzqCa8bz</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[codecx posted : I was thinking about this..and the CPAC video feed is 512 kbps... so 64k/sec.<br><br>As a Canadian it is my right to be able to view Parliamentary matters, which is why CPAC exists.<br>If I choose to view it online vs subscribing to Cable, and if I ran the feed 8 hours a day, every day for the entire month, it would cost me 36.8GB in bandwidth.<br><br>25GB cap in on itself is unpatriotic ;)<br><br>1 min 3840KB(3.8MB)<br>60 min = 230.4MB<br>8 hours = 1.84GB<br>20 days =36.8GB]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TOPDAWG posted : hey give him a break he even said he did not have all the answers yet he was willing to pass huge swapping changes to how internet is sold in Canada. It takes a really bold person to do that it also means they're a really dumb person too.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kovy7 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1195536" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1195536');">TOPDAWG</a>:</said><p>well they did ask him to back up where he got the %15 discount from and he was not able to answer. So he said that was passed months ago and the MP said no it was two weeks ago.<br> </p></div>Yeah, and he should of been able to provide it... he has a army of people lol.<br><br>But, they said Bell wanted 25% back in 2006? Now they wanted 0% and CRTC said no it's going to be 15%... he couldn't say why, which it's his job to have the answers.<br><br>But Mike was awesome, just stressing about it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kovy7 posted : Man, that Mike Lake really pushed Mr.KVF... Can't spell his name properly... lol, that was awesome.<br><br>But obviously, there was a lot of non sense. But some very good questions as well.<br><br>But when KVF said he agreed that Bell has a placed a very low caps Vs the rest of the world... I think that's going to hurt him.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Brownbay posted : What really bothers me in all this is not just how incompetent KVF is, but how equally incompetent the MP's questioning him were. <br><br>Anyone graduating from even the most basic university degree is taught from the very 1st year that any time you present a view point, you back that up with independent and verifiable facts. <br><br>Throughout the whole hearing, KVF was only presenting data obtained by the CRTC from Bell submissions. Not a single MP asked why was the data not verified by a 3rd party. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[DJMASACRE posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1771139" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1771139');">bigdaddymac</a>:</said><p>thx for the link.<br><br>Finckenstein:<br><br>"I don't agree with the government," he said. "The vast majority of internet users should not be forced to subsidize heavy users"<br><br>OMG! this guy thinks HE's in charge -wake up to REALITY bud!<br>you are an employeeeeee.<br>don't worry about the CRTC anymore, But von just pissed off the wrong people!<br><br>LMAO<br> </p></div>one of the many if not all best quotes from him eh <br><br>all you can say is wow :) ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bigdaddymac posted : thx for the link.<br><br>Finckenstein:<br><br>"I don't agree with the government," he said. "The vast majority of internet users should not be forced to subsidize heavy users"<br><br>OMG! this guy thinks HE's in charge -wake up to REALITY bud!<br>you are an employeeeeee.<br>don't worry about the CRTC anymore, But von just pissed off the wrong people!<br><br>LMAO]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[VE3SJK posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by spellcheck :</said><p>Please use spell check before you send off that email.<br> </p></div>I did before it was sent, some of the formating does not show well in the forum as i pasted from Outlook and it was a rough copy. <br><br>Thanks for pointing it out.<br><small>--<br><br>73 de VE3SJK</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[VE3SJK posted : Although we seem to have had some sucess in gettng this matter looked at further it seem apparent after watching this hearing that we need to stay diligent with the protest or we are just going to get UBB at a differnet rate. Personally I am not choosing any party yet but I was impressed with the question the Mr. Masse was asking during the hearing. <br><br>This has prompted me to send the following email to Mr. Masse, Tony Clement and my local MP. The politician have heard us but we cannot allow them to just use this for political gain. We need real change on these matters and only pressure will get that. I urge everyone even if they signed the petiton to contiune to write to their MP.<br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------<br>Mr. Masse,<br><br>As a Canadian voter and although I am not in your riding I would like to take this time to thank you for being the only person on the CRTC hearing asking some of the right questions on this matter. It seemed to me that the Liberals are only looking to blame the PC party for this issue instead of getting to the actual issue itself. And the PC party is looking to gain political points in the next election instead of looking at the better interest of the Canadian Public.<br><br>I must state that just watching this hearing made me sick to my stomach and raises some points in my mind.<br><br>1.	All the data that stated by the CRTC was provided by Bell Canada.<br>2.	The CRTC sounds like it is in the pockets of both Bell and the Cable Companies.<br>3.	Any evidence of network congestion has not been provided by Bell.<br>4.	Canada has the highest cost for both internet and cell phone usage.<br><br>Here are some of my questions.<br><br>1.	If I pay for an unlimited service why should I be penalized for using it.<br>2.	If the real cost per Gigabyte is between 1 to 3 cents why a 1.90 per gig extra fee.<br>3.	Why is nobody asking what the actual cost per gigabyte is in this matter.<br>4.	Why under the new rules can you not pre purchase data above 300g/month instead of being subjected to a large per gigabyte fee instead above this point.<br>5.	Why should I be subject to anything Bell does to their customers, I am not a bell customer. If Bell wants to charge their customers and cap them so be it. If I purchase from a third party ISP that wants to provide me with either an unlimited connection or a 200gig cap why is this not allowed. They have already purchased that bandwidth from Bell. Bell should have NO say in how they choose to sell that bandwidth to me as their customer.<br>6.	Why does unused PRE PURCHASED bandwidth under this plan not carry over month to month, under this ruling if I purchase 300 gigabytes of bandwidth which effectively doubles my monthly bill and I only use 100 gigabytes of that data then I lose the other 200 gigabytes of data that I purchased thus allowing Bell to further profit from my unused bandwidth.<br>7.	If the purpose of the ruling is to have heavy traffic users pay for their use than why are they not charged for actual use instead of being forced to pre purchase bandwidth ahead of time thus forcing the consumer to guess at what their future use might be.<br>8.	What does Bell consider to be a business to be exempt from these rules? IE. Do they need to be incorporated or sole proprietorship? Is this ruling going to discriminate between the two?<br><br>In conclusion I can only say that the decision of the CRTC to simply wait another 60 days to review this decision in my mind as a voter just tells me that the UBB will be implemented regardless. I am sure the only think that will change in those sixty days is perhaps the cost per gigabyte and not the bad policy itself. <br><br>I as one of the hundreds of thousand voters that signed the recent petition was not sending a message that I wanted this reviewed and then just have the prices changed with the policy going forward.<br><br>I would like to leave a clear message to all Politian&#146;s on this matter.<br><br>UBB cannot be allowed to exist in Canada in any form or at any price. Independent ISP&#146;s must be allowed to offer either high caps or unlimited service if they so choose.<br><br>My vote in the next election will depend on the outcome of the actual issues involved and no party will receive my vote by simply pointing fingers at the others and not actually getting to the facts in this matter. I will not reward any politician that uses this matter to simply gain political points I am looking to see real questions being asked about this decision. I want to see open public televised hearings on this matter.<br><br>Thank You,<br><br>CC<br><br>Clement.T@parl.gc.ca<br>minister.industry@ic.gc.ca<br>delmad@parl.gc.ca<br>contact@openmedia.ca]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MikeGeiger posted : Indeed. As pleased as I am that it seems all parties are united in striking this ruling, it seems that the NDP member here is actually interested in this rather that posturing, which the first Lib MP seemed more keen on.<br><br>Either way, this ruling won't stand, and I'm happy about that.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://ServerNorth.net" >ServerNorth.net</A> &raquo;<A HREF="http://Mike.Geiger.ca" >Mike.Geiger.ca</A> &raquo;<A HREF="http://ThePackets.net" >ThePackets.net</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[DJMASACRE posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1554535" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1554535');">MikeGeiger</a>:</said><p>So FYI, after the hearing I approached Brian Masse and gave him an attaboy. He clearly knows and understands this file, has defended it before with Charlie Angus re: DPI... he's very committed to it. We exchanged contact info, he said he may call on me for assistance... might just be talk, might be sincere - I do believe him though. I gave him my printed copy of JF's petition - he hadn't seen it yet.<br><br>Given he's the MP for Windsor West, I hope that TSI has talked with him already! It's clear he's onside.<br><br>(If you're wondering, I'm the only one not in a suit... blue shirt, black wrist brace, not shaved, over KvF's shoulder/head in most of the video. 2 rows behind the woman with the red blouse. Apparently later on there's a full shot of me. I'm still watching as I write.)<br><br>While I was trying to leave, Clement (who was never in the room BTW) was orating to the media scrum at the exit of the cloakroom, so I waited at the back and made small talk with Maggie Papoulias, the Director of Goverment Affairs at Bell Canada.<br> </p></div>BRA - VO <br><br>bravo , bravo , bravo .<br><br>it is about TIME - not just the government but these ISSUES get resolved in the PROPER manner ! <br><br>especially with Internet/TV/Cell phones ( even though I know cells are totally market crap ) <br><br>either way the whole country deserves real proper acknowledgment with any issue.<br><br>but THIS issue particulary has been going on for over 5 years and only NOW have we finally had few if any but enough to only SPEAK out for once about THESE VERY IMPORTANT - FUTURE - ECONOMIC :EDIT: TECHNOLOGICAL - INTERNET - if you want - issues.<br><br> anyway, all we can say is BRA VO and thank you for finally over these years some younger MP's to step in, while we wait for the older dinosaurs who have no clue - want to say nothing - get paid - retire - and DIE .  Meanwhile you guys with a brain can come in finally now and over the next few years (FINALLY) take over and do something FINALLY amazing with our Country<br><br>we can say shame and welcome all in one sentence now ?<br><br>I am sure more positive words will be said though, in including my own :) <br><br>again.. BRA ....... VO =-)<br><br>Kindest Regards, <br><br>- DJ<br><br>P.S : forgive me if this was posted , but to see one part after this in CBC - &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2011/02/03/crtc-committee.html" >www.cbc.ca/canada/story/ &middot;&middot;&middot; tee.html</A><br><br>watch the vid there , this HAS to give you an overview - this is EVERYBODY that has INTERNET or otherwise a service from bell or rogers or any related service. yeah believe it :)<br><br>- CBC just had at 10:18 another news cast for 2 min about it - excuse me you might see it tommorow but it was not as important as my previous link.<br><br>this is ... what and why and how - you are paying and getting "screwed" and whatever word you want to use to why your Internet/phone and TV but most important Internet is not making any sense with price and the service/packaging "your" favorite provider is offering :)<br><br>look into this now.   good luck brothers. (and sisters) :-)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[salmonz posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/748451" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=748451');">Muzzy</a>:</said><p>Can some one in the know please do an edit of KvF grilling and point out all the errors or misleading information ahead of the next meeting? I'm sure that if done properly it can be "advertised" by Openmedia through their mass emails.<br><br>It will also keep the momentum going. Maybe the person who should be on the video is George Burger ;)<br> </p></div>I was thinking of doing this tonight, but maybe others are doing the same.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[salmonz posted : &raquo;<A HREF="http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/ParlVu/ContentEntityDetailView.aspx?ContentEntityId=7245" >parlvu.parl.gc.ca/ParlVu &middot;&middot;&middot; yId=7245</A><br><br>1hr 10min, the head of the CRTC could not answer the rationale behind the 15% discount.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MikeGeiger posted : So FYI, after the hearing I approached Brian Masse and gave him an attaboy. He clearly knows and understands this file, has defended it before with Charlie Angus re: DPI... he's very committed to it. We exchanged contact info, he said he may call on me for assistance... might just be talk, might be sincere - I do believe him though. I gave him my printed copy of JF's petition - he hadn't seen it yet.<br><br>Given he's the MP for Windsor West, I hope that TSI has talked with him already! It's clear he's onside.<br><br>(If you're wondering, I'm the only one not in a suit... blue shirt, black wrist brace, not shaved, over KvF's shoulder/head in most of the video. 2 rows behind the woman with the red blouse. Apparently later on there's a full shot of me. I'm still watching as I write.)<br><br>While I was trying to leave, Clement (who was never in the room BTW) was orating to the media scrum at the exit of the cloakroom, so I waited at the back and made small talk with Maggie Papoulias, the Director of Goverment Affairs at Bell Canada.<br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://ServerNorth.net" >ServerNorth.net</A> &raquo;<A HREF="http://Mike.Geiger.ca" >Mike.Geiger.ca</A> &raquo;<A HREF="http://ThePackets.net" >ThePackets.net</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Dustyn posted : That thread title made me laugh. I don't think I wanna watch anyone getting "drilled online".  :o lol  :D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:49:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Muzzy posted : Can some one in the know please do an edit of KvF grilling and point out all the errors or misleading information ahead of the next meeting? I'm sure that if done properly it can be "advertised" by Openmedia through their mass emails.<br><br>It will also keep the momentum going. Maybe the person who should be on the video is George Burger ;)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:38:38 EDT</pubDate>
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