 NezmoThe name's Bond. James Bond.
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Re: IMG 1.9 is dead!!said by joe01880:said by mphare:I believe they had already moved all their programmers off and onto the IMG 2.0 project when 1.9 hit the snag. They will probably just skip 1.9 and work to get 2.0 out earlier than expected. I think we are about a year out.
... You might as well give the delivery dates of 2.0 while your at it! The dates would be as good as any others given on these boards  . |
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said by buckingham:"Dead" is probably not the right word in general. They apparently are still working on it as my image was updated last night.
So are you a beta tester or in a region that actually has the 1.9 build generally available? |
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 buckinghamDoylstown Pa
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said by sbernstein5:said by buckingham:"Dead" is probably not the right word in general. They apparently are still working on it as my image was updated last night.
So are you a beta tester or in a region that actually has the 1.9 build generally available? Trial area. I did notice at least one "fix" this morning, although I cannot go into details due to the NDA. My point was merely that they appear to still be working on this software. |
· actions · 2011-May-16 4:09 pm · (locked) |
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The NDA for the sneak peak should be void now that Verizon has rolled out 1.9 to at least some non-sneak peak customers. |
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said by Zero5:The NDA for the sneak peak should be void now that Verizon has rolled out 1.9 to at least some non-sneak peak customers.
And the fact the sneak peak is the featured presentation on 131 & 1952. |
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said by buckingham:said by sbernstein5:said by buckingham:"Dead" is probably not the right word in general. They apparently are still working on it as my image was updated last night.
So are you a beta tester or in a region that actually has the 1.9 build generally available? Trial area. I did notice at least one "fix" this morning, although I cannot go into details due to the NDA. My point was merely that they appear to still be working on this software. NDA for a firmware update to a VHO that they would have pushed out to hundreds of people if not thousands???? |
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2011-May-17 9:57 am
Actually... it's not void. Not totally. While it's clear that it's relaxed (you can clearly talk about some of the features since Verizon is advertizing them themselves) we got a final survey as part of the beta, the link being in an e-mail reminding us that our NDA is still in effect. That is we still can't post pictures of the release, and stuff like that. If there's a fix that got rolled out only to the beta folks (don't know if that's the case because I haven't checked), then it still could be covered by the NDA. |
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Before I opened my mouth... blabbed here... I asked if it was OK. There are can be newer versions of software (1.9) and Firmware on individual boxes in testers homes aside from other testers.  |
· actions · 2011-May-17 10:03 am · (locked) |
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Verizon said that 1.9 would be out by Q4 2010 but did they hold up that promise? Hell no. So that NDA should be thrown in the trash. If they cant keep promises why should we have to? |
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said by RDC17:So that NDA should be thrown in the trash. If they cant keep promises why should we have to? Because VZ would never run another user beta. |
· actions · 2011-May-17 5:27 pm · (locked) |
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We've already seen the meat and potatoes of 1.9. I guarantee you Verizon doesn't give half a shit if someone makes a verbal recollection of a bug fix or color change.
I'll quote a former project supervisor of mine, when asked what to do about people leaking beta builds of a certain software "What are we supposed to, troll the internet and be cyber nannies until the final build is released?" |
· actions · 2011-May-17 6:06 pm · (locked) |
NezmoThe name's Bond. James Bond.
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I'm still thinking this hold up to change a message or rework how the TV aspect ratio is set is a bullshit smokescreen for something a bit more complex they found during rollout. The time it is taking is comical. And please spare me all your industry experience blabber about how long this stuff takes... I wasn't born yesterday.
That's just my opinion. I am sure someone will bust my ass for having said opinion. Personally, I've given up on 1.9. To get a 16:9 guide and eSATA support I'd have to pay to change three of my boxes anyway. All the rest of the change in 1.9 is fluff.
You blew it big time VZ. Pretty amazing. |
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U-verse is now rolling out pause/rewind live tv from any box connected to a total home DVR.
Am I the only one beginning to feel like this new 1.9 is a total joke compared to what some other cable operators are releasing? Of course Uverse quality sucks but - suckiness aside that's p/rw is an awesome feature. What does verizon have to offer in 1.9? Wow a new color theme and a 16:9 guide and features that nearly every other cable company already offers- expandable dvr.
Those of you with that signed the NDA should be leaking everything you possibly can. Anyone who really thinks they are not gonna beta test anymore because of internet leaks must be kidding themselves. What bizzaro world are you living in that you all should be scared of a phone company? What are these folks leaking - stuff already proclaimed by verizon pr (also known as twit joe) as though it were reinventing the wheel and to debut when was it again? 2010? LOL If you got it leak it. Your doing the pr job for them. Are people online really torching buildings trying to find out what color the img is going to be? Cant leak that important color.
Aside from all that - I do enjoy the quality of the tv - just not the equipment and or company that runs it. |
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said by llkn490 :U-verse is now rolling out pause/rewind live tv from any box connected to a total home DVR. They can do that because the utilize iptv and cache the the stream currently being viewed by the client box to the dvr hdd. uverse has a cap on the number of simultaneously viewable channels per household so disk bandwidth doesn't become an issue. said by llkn490 :Am I the only one beginning to feel like this new 1.9 is a total joke compared to what some other cable operators are releasing? Of course Uverse quality sucks but - suckiness aside that's p/rw is an awesome feature. What does verizon have to offer in 1.9? Wow a new color theme and a 16:9 guide and features that nearly every other cable company already offers- expandable dvr. Multihub is pretty sweet (pooling of all DVRs on the network into a single queue of recordings) and 16:9 guide is something that many cable companies lack. The satelite companies have deployed it, but many cable operators haven't, and include ads in the guide. said by llkn490 :Those of you with that signed the NDA should be leaking everything you possibly can. Anyone who really thinks they are not gonna beta test anymore because of internet leaks must be kidding themselves. What bizzaro world are you living in that you all should be scared of a phone company? What are these folks leaking - stuff already proclaimed by verizon pr (also known as twit joe) as though it were reinventing the wheel and to debut when was it again? 2010? LOL If you got it leak it. Your doing the pr job for them. Are people online really torching buildings trying to find out what color the img is going to be? Cant leak that important color.
Aside from all that - I do enjoy the quality of the tv - just not the equipment and or company that runs it.
Pulling beta testing is a pretty real concern as this is the first large scale IMG beta and mass violation of NDA would be grounds for verizon to end the program and leave us with buggier software and less chances to try new things. |
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I was with DirecTV before switching to FiOS.
Say what you want about DirecTV and its various problems, but one thing they really did well was developing their DVR software. They have a kickass development team and a large community of enthusiastic testers who are extremely influential in getting things done.
I was just an end user, not a tester, but I saw consistent major improvements to the DVR on a regular basis while I was with them, and it went a long way toward keeping me a satisfied customer.
DirecTV already had support for external drives on their DVR over three years ago when I first signed up, yet here's Verizon still stalling and dreaming about it. Crazy. |
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said by llkn490 :Those of you with that signed the NDA should be leaking everything you possibly can.
So signing an agreement should mean nothing? And then you wonder why our society is in such deep crap with people just abandoning their obligations. Once upon a time one's word or signature actually stood for something - I guess not anymore. A sad state of affairs. |
· actions · 2011-May-18 7:36 am · (locked) |
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I think this rollout takes the cake for 'Worst Fios IMG Deployments" ever.
Quite sad it's Fios in 2011 and we still do not have something as simple as a 16x9 guide rolled out to the entire footprint. |
· actions · 2011-May-18 7:55 am · (locked) |
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said by llkn490 :Those of you with that signed the NDA should be leaking everything you possibly can.
My word and the signing of an agreement like NDA is the same as what a handshake used to mean. I signed the agreement not to disclose anything. My integrity comes first and I am proud of that! I echo what Keyboards said "Once upon a time one's word or signature actually stood for something - I guess not anymore. A sad state of affairs." |
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said by llkn490 : What bizzaro world are you living in that you all should be scared of a phone company? I read online, i think LA Times blog that as of 1/25/11, for the quarter Verizons profits were 4.6 BILLION dollars. For a phone company. 4.6 BILLION dollars goes a long way if they decide they want to litigate over a violation of a NDA. So if anyone has signed an NDA with regards to 1.9 they should be saying NOTHING less the "phone company" might bite them in the arse. |
· actions · 2011-May-18 8:20 am · (locked) |
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I can assure you (not 'I guess' or 'I think') that Vz, ATT, and others take their processes seriously and we all take our NDAs just as seriously.
For something line an IMG they may not take you to court, but you'll never get another chance to beta anything for them. |
· actions · 2011-May-18 8:35 am · (locked) |
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said by Nezmo:I'm still thinking this hold up to change a message or rework how the TV aspect ratio is set is a bullshit smokescreen for something a bit more complex they found during rollout. The time it is taking is comical. And please spare me all your industry experience blabber about how long this stuff takes... I wasn't born yesterday.
That's just my opinion. I am sure someone will bust my ass for having said opinion. Personally, I've given up on 1.9. To get a 16:9 guide and eSATA support I'd have to pay to change three of my boxes anyway. All the rest of the change in 1.9 is fluff.
You blew it big time VZ. Pretty amazing.
AFAIK, people with 6xxx-series boxes do not have to pay to upgrade them to 7xxx series boxes. |
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Not true. I upgraded my 6416 to 7232 and was charged. |
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Re: IMG 1.9 is dead!!It actually has become more comical as each day goes by and no news on 1.9. I don't know what the heads at VZ think of this but if I was the CEO every person who was involved in this debacle of software would be looking for a new job very soon. |
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said by RDC17: I don't know what the heads at VZ think of this but if I was the CEO every person who was involved in this debacle of software would be looking for a new job very soon.
I bet that, like 90% of FIOS subscribers, Ivan Seidenberg knows or cares very little about IMG V1.9. Besides, according to the billboards I've seen this will all be moot by Saturday. |
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What billboards? |
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said by keyboards:said by llkn490 :Those of you with that signed the NDA should be leaking everything you possibly can.
So signing an agreement should mean nothing? And then you wonder why our society is in such deep crap with people just abandoning their obligations. Once upon a time one's word or signature actually stood for something - I guess not anymore. A sad state of affairs. What did Verizon pay in federal income taxes the past 2 years? Could it be a big fat 0? Maybe that is what's wrong with society today. Leaks no - greed yes! Your not revealing important government documents - didn't that just happen recently? - it's a Verizon software upgrade. Isn't it always interesting how some weeks/months before Apple releases their products more and more news comes out about all the new features? These leaks are a dream to these companies. It's free publicity. I'm amazed at how serious some of you folks take this crap. Anyone who works at Verizon in the img development department should be fired immediately. They earned 4.6 bil I'm pretty sure they can find some people that know what they are doing because it's painfully obvious the current slate hasn't a clue. Maybe dial up some folks at Google/Tivo or the local high school. |
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said by llkn490 :I'm amazed at how serious some of you folks take this crap. Pot meet kettle. |
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