HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968. Premium Member join:2000-09-20 Mission, TX |
[POLITICS] A City of Stamford Representative celebrates a death.This woman celebrates the death of a man in front of his 4 children. Stupid bitch. 
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· actions · 2011-Nov-26 5:53 pm · (locked) |
DrStrangeTechnically feasible Premium Member join:2001-07-23 Bristol, CT |
Re: [POLITICS] A City of Stamford Representative celebrates a deGoes to show that bad apples come in many varieties and crazies exist all over the political spectrum.
Too bad about the fellow who shot himself. A nice form of gun control I could live with would be what governments do with amateur radio: Have you prove you know what you're doing before you get a license. |
· actions · 2011-Nov-26 6:36 pm · (locked) |
bennor Premium Member join:2006-07-22 New Haven, CT |
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2011-Nov-26 11:09 pm
said by DrStrange:A nice form of gun control I could live with would be what governments do with amateur radio: Have you prove you know what you're doing before you get a license. Should we also use that same line of thinking for the 1st Amendment's freedom of speech? License people so they can only speek after they prove they know what they are talking about? Many people have been killed by the power of words and ideas and they were being killed long before firearms were invented. No matter how many safety classes one takes, how much experience they have, or if they are issued a permit (like for driving a car), humans will still manage to kill themselves (and others) either accidentally or intentionally. As to the person who tragically shot himself. The Glock, like most all modern firearms, just does not go off by itself. The guy unfortunately somehow managed to pull the trigger and the gun discharged. In a proper holster for the firearm, there is usually no way for something or someone to pull the firearm's trigger, unless the firearm is pulled/removed from the holster. |
· actions · 2011-Nov-26 11:09 pm · (locked) |
KearnstdSpace Elf Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ |
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2011-Nov-27 9:25 am
And the safety off. that safety must have been off as well for it to discharge.
Its a bad thing to have happen especially in front of kids.
I am wondering if he was removing the gun, some places like these malls actually ask people to leave their gun locked up in their glove box rather than bring it into the building. |
· actions · 2011-Nov-27 9:25 am · (locked) |
bennor Premium Member join:2006-07-22 New Haven, CT |
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2011-Nov-27 10:06 am
said by Kearnstd:And the safety off. that safety must have been off as well for it to discharge. Glock's do not have a manual external safety. Its the way that particular firearm was design. For all firearms the first safety is between one's ears, the second safety is for the user to keep the booger hook off the boom switch until one intends to discharge the firearm. The third safety is the manual safety if the firearm has one. More than once I've seen people at a gun range who thought the manual safety was engaged who then pulled the trigger only to be shocked to have the firearm discharge down range. People routinely make mistakes or decisions that endanger themselves and others despite the manual safety devices on mechanical devices. said by Kearnstd:I am wondering if he was removing the gun, some places like these malls actually ask people to leave their gun locked up in their glove box rather than bring it into the building. Most malls, at least all of the ones in CT that I've been to, all prohibit weapons including firearms. They usually have the rules on a small sign out front of the main mall entrance. And for CT pistol permit holders there is a section in the permit licensing statute that indicates that permit holders are not supposed to carry their firearms into "gun free" zones. » www.cga.ct.gov/2011/pub/ ··· 9-28.htm(e) The issuance of any permit to carry a pistol or revolver does not thereby authorize the possession or carrying of a pistol or revolver in any premises where the possession or carrying of a pistol or revolver is otherwise prohibited by law or is prohibited by the person who owns or exercises control over such premises. Most who legally carry in public practice the safe holstering and unholstering of their firearm. More than a few also do not just "leave" their firearm in their glovebox since on more than a few cars the glovebox does not lock. Rather people use small gun safes that can be chained to the interior of their car. |
· actions · 2011-Nov-27 10:06 am · (locked) |
KearnstdSpace Elf Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ |
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2011-Nov-27 4:31 pm
Ahh ok I did not know about car gun safes as I am not a gun owner. but it is certainly good that they make such a thing.
And I never knew there where guns without the physical manual safety switch. I have only known that ALL guns are always locked loaded and ready to fire at least for the sake of how they should be handled. |
· actions · 2011-Nov-27 4:31 pm · (locked) |
Grumpy4 Premium Member join:2001-07-28 NW CT |
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Pretty good chance the guy was a knucklehead for this to have happened, but that doesn't excuse the "serves him right" attitude.
I realize it's a stretch to qualify all gun rights in one incident, but I do wish the slain family in Cheshire had a single action .357 full of hollow points tucked away behind the microwave oven. Would have saved the family and the taxpayers a lot of loss. |
· actions · 2011-Nov-28 7:23 am · (locked) |
GlennI'D Rather Be Skiing Premium Member join:2000-10-05 Wallingford, CT |
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Any news outlets pick up on this? |
· actions · 2011-Nov-28 12:11 pm · (locked) |
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said by Kearnstd:And the safety off. that safety must have been off as well for it to discharge. As previously said, Glocks don't have an external safety. The main safety of ALL guns is the brain. Any gun is equally dangerous in the hands of a careless individual. Plus there is no real justification to have a chambered round in any gun, unless you intend to shoot. Some will disagree and say that the 0.3sec needed for pulling the slide can make a difference. Yes, maybe in the Wild West or in a war zone. Chances of an accident happening are far bigger than chances of needing the 0.3 sec. Situational awareness will give a way bigger advantage. And I'm willing to bet that most of those who claim the 0.3sec advantage will miss at 10ft in stress conditions. Cops carry chambered guns to maximize the number of shots until having to reload... That being said I've only had chambered rounds twice outside the shooting range. Both times in my house. Both times with the finger next to the trigger in the middle of the night.  |
· actions · 2011-Nov-28 2:04 pm · (locked) |
bennor Premium Member join:2006-07-22 New Haven, CT |
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said by Grumpy4:I realize it's a stretch to qualify all gun rights in one incident, but I do wish the slain family in Cheshire had a single action .357 full of hollow points tucked away behind the microwave oven. Would have saved the family and the taxpayers a lot of loss. Anti 2nd Amendment/Anti Gun people always paint everyone by the actions of a single person who mishandled a firearm or uses one to commit a crime/murder. So when one person misshandles a firearm and gets shot (and unfortunatly dies), it means all gun owners are that careless. The anti gun people cannot help themselves, its an emotional response on their part. Unfortunately many liberals take the view that the police are responsible for your safety, not you. They want guns banned because they project their fears of doing harm with one onto others. They want everyone to be a victim including the person who set out to intentionally do you harm. Its why some say that woman shouldn't fight back if they're being raped. Its why they tell you not to resist when being robbed or assaulted. Its why they say that while your being robbed that you should let the criminal have free run of your home (and family) and retreat to some location where you can call the police. Note that our state does have the semblance of a "castle law" with respect to defensive use of a firearm in one's home. Never mind that the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the police have "no duty" to protect you from harm. There is much truth in the saying that; "when the seconds count, the police are minutes away". There for its up to the "individual" (which collectivists despise) to protect themselves from harm, robbery or rape. |
· actions · 2011-Nov-29 7:44 am · (locked) |
Grumpy4 Premium Member join:2001-07-28 NW CT |
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2011-Nov-29 9:10 am
The anti gun folk usually fail to mention crime stats in open carry states. In parts of AZ, it's not unusual to see every other person with a holstered handgun on their belt. I don't reckon car jackings and muggings happen in those locations very often.  "Sure, you can steal my car. Let me give you the .45 caliber 'keys'." |
· actions · 2011-Nov-29 9:10 am · (locked) |