 boognish
Premium Member
join:2001-09-26
Baton Rouge, LA |
to Snakeoil
Re: The Doctors: Should High school athletes be drug tested?said by Snakeoil: On the Doctors they posed a question. Should there be a nation wide requirement that HS athletes get tested for drug use. What they were suggesting was that if a kid wants to play on a school team, he gets tested for use of any drug. Be it steroid, narcotics. No matter the kid's age.
This way mom and dad would know if they had a druggie on their hands.
I'd take it a step further. I would say, why not a national requirement that all kids in the public education system gets drug tested?
Adults are required to pass a drug screen to get a job, why not require kids to pass a drug screen?
Drug testing and policing is not the job of the school. Schools need to focus on teaching. Who is going to pay for all this ? I am not willing to pay extra in taxes for a stupid program. If parents want to have their kids tested then they can take them to the clinic and test them. I am not required to take a drug test for my job and I am an adult. |
· actions · 2011-Dec-19 4:45 pm · (locked) |
 SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.
Premium Member
join:2000-08-05
united state |
Snakeoil
Premium Member
2011-Dec-19 7:11 pm
For the temp jobs I've held in OH, I had to have a drug test. When my OH employer hired me full time, I had to have a drug test.
And I wasn't doing anything as dangerous as jobs that I had worked in the past without a test. The jobs I had before where in GA. Both were driving jobs. One was pizza delivery, the other driving vehicles up to a class B license.
As drug addication is a criminal offense in this country, I'd like to see it nipped in the bud. And the best way to do that is Drug testing at the junior to senior high school level. IMO.
Now maybe if we treated drug addiction as a mental health issue, and not a criminal one, then I'd be less worried about my kids doing drugs. As if they got arrested, it wouldn't be a criminal offense, unless they had killed someone/drove under the influence. |
· actions · 2011-Dec-19 7:11 pm · (locked) |
 OZZY7Born Again Atheist
Premium Member
join:2011-06-11 |
OZZY7
Premium Member
2011-Dec-19 7:28 pm
said by Snakeoil:As drug addication is a criminal offense in this country, I'd like to see it nipped in the bud. And the best way to do that is Drug testing at the junior to senior high school level. IMO.
So, just "Say No" to drugs, huh? Uh, we've been beating our head against that wall since Nixon, at least. All prohibition, and the ensuing war on drugs has been a complete and total failure. The answer, is legalization for the least dangerous drugs like marijuana on a sliding scale up to cocaine and heroin. The most fearsome drug problem is in the form of prescription drugs like Oxycodone and Oxycontin, along with the benzos like Klonopin, Xanax, and Lorazepam. Tighten controls on the prescription drugs and legalize the harmless drugs like marijuana is the solution. Simple. |
· actions · 2011-Dec-19 7:28 pm · (locked) |
|
SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.
Premium Member
join:2000-08-05
united state |
Snakeoil
Premium Member
2011-Dec-19 7:35 pm
I have no problem with pot being legal, treated like a tobacco product.
Prescription drugs are widely abused, but also consider the recent wave of kids getting hurt from synthetic pot.
Thanks to them, bath salts are no hard to find. |
· actions · 2011-Dec-19 7:35 pm · (locked) |
 FutureMonDude Whats mine say?
join:2000-10-05
Marina, CA |
to OZZY7
There's nothing wrong with a "Just say No" media blitz while at the same time legalizing pot.
Human nature has proven that people more often want what they "can't have" and therefore, avenues in which they "can have" these things pop up on the underground to supply that demand.
Legalize it and tax it. Fund the just say no program(s) (and/or school team testing) with the revenue obtained.
But that's an entirely different subject.
- FM |
· actions · 2011-Dec-19 7:42 pm · (locked) |
OZZY7Born Again Atheist
Premium Member
join:2011-06-11 |
to Snakeoil
said by Snakeoil:... consider the recent wave of kids getting hurt from synthetic pot.
Thanks to them, bath salts are no hard to find.
Don't confuse "synthetic pot" with "bath salts", as they are 2 totally different animals. Think of K2 or "spice" [synthetic marijuana"] as potpourri soaked in chemicals. It's nasty, but it's not "Bath Salts". Think of "Bath Salts" as PCP, as these people really freak the fuck out. Bath Salts makes cocaine look like coffee. Like I say, legalization needs to be tiered, with the most dangerous drugs, like meth and bath salts legalized later, or never. Legalize harmless drugs like marijuana and take the money we save and fight meth and bath salts. It's a better plan than our current WOD. |
· actions · 2011-Dec-19 7:45 pm · (locked) |
SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.
Premium Member
join:2000-08-05
united state |
Snakeoil
Premium Member
2011-Dec-19 7:48 pm
of course it is. But do you think the powers that be are willing to change? |
· actions · 2011-Dec-19 7:48 pm · (locked) |
|
FutureMonDude Whats mine say?
join:2000-10-05
Marina, CA |
If "big pharma" would take on the manufacture of the stuff so they could get a piece of the action, I don't see why not.
Dangle enough revenue in front of them and they'll bite for sure.
- FM |
· actions · 2011-Dec-19 7:51 pm · (locked) |
OZZY7Born Again Atheist
Premium Member
join:2011-06-11 |
to Snakeoil
NO. They want nothing to do with sanity. They exist on a platform of "zero tolerance" except in the case of prescription drugs and methadone, which are a Trillion dollar business on their own.
Still, drug test kids? Why not strip search them as they arrive for their school day too? And, why just piss-test athletes? Isn't a drugged out mathematician easily as dangerous as a stoned jock? LOL, see how silly this is? |
· actions · 2011-Dec-19 7:52 pm · (locked) |
 DarkLogixTexan and Proud
Premium Member
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX |
to FutureMon
If weed is legalized hopefully the companies that make geneticly altered corn/soy will mess with it so that it will be deadly
sounds good, legalize it, let it get geneticly altered and pantented, then make it deadly |
· actions · 2011-Dec-22 4:00 pm · (locked) |
 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium Member
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ |
to OZZY7
said by OZZY7:said by Snakeoil:... consider the recent wave of kids getting hurt from synthetic pot.
Thanks to them, bath salts are no hard to find.
Don't confuse "synthetic pot" with "bath salts", as they are 2 totally different animals. Think of K2 or "spice" [synthetic marijuana"] as potpourri soaked in chemicals. It's nasty, but it's not "Bath Salts". Think of "Bath Salts" as PCP, as these people really freak the fuck out. Bath Salts makes cocaine look like coffee. Like I say, legalization needs to be tiered, with the most dangerous drugs, like meth and bath salts legalized later, or never. Legalize harmless drugs like marijuana and take the money we save and fight meth and bath salts. It's a better plan than our current WOD. I think bath salts are synthetic crystal meth. |
· actions · 2011-Dec-31 11:34 pm · (locked) |
OZZY7Born Again Atheist
Premium Member
join:2011-06-11 |
OZZY7
Premium Member
2011-Dec-31 11:41 pm
said by dvd536:I think bath salts are synthetic crystal meth.
You're much closer than comparing bath salts to synthetic marijuana, for sure. Still, as close as you are, there are some pretty significant differences between meth and bath salts. For instance. As dangerous and destructive as meth is, one could conceivably do meth for at least a while without going totally bonkers. Hallucinations and profound paranoia would probably only happen with meth after one hadn't slept for a few days. Bath salts, on the other hand can produce extreme paranoia and massive hallucinations, much like schizophrenia almost immediately. Scary shit. |
· actions · 2011-Dec-31 11:41 pm · (locked) |
