rody_44
Premium Member
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA |
to cliffjone
Re: [Need Info] Phillies BaseballIm sure its not a Service Electric, Comcast type of decision. RCN of Lehigh Valley has as many New york fans as they do phillie fans. Now RCN in Delaware county and such doesnt even have NEW YORK fans on the radar. Wow , what a game last night |
|
iceSleep Less, Game More
join:2002-07-01
Wind Gap, PA |
ice
Member
2013-Apr-7 10:45 am
Glad I have a way to stream the games I get screwed out of seeing on TV. I'd be ticked if I missed last night's game. |
|
 st89jebn
Premium Member
join:2009-07-22
Drexel Hill, PA |
to Heggs
said by Heggs:Good question st89jebn, so I decided to do the research.
RCN New York Market: YES Network
MSG Overflow Network
MSG Overflow Network Plus
SportsNet NY
RCN D.C Market :
Comcast Sports Net
Comcast Sports Net Plus
MASN (Mid Atlantic Sports Net)
MASN 2
RCN Boston Market:
New England Sports Net
Comcast Sports Net
RCN Chicago Market:
Comcast Sports Net
Comcast Sports Net Plus
RCN Philly/Lehigh Market:
Comcast Sports Net
Thanks Heggs. It sounds like TCN is the last overflow channel for RCN to get done. |
|
 shadyman777The Hero of Time
Premium Member
join:2009-03-02
Bath, PA |
to Heggs
said by Heggs:Good question st89jebn, so I decided to do the research in the other RCN markets to see if they are missing games of there favorite team in there city. After all, if you notice nobody is complaining on the forum about missing a Yankees,Mets,Cubs,White Sox.Nationals,Orioles or Red Sox game. Lets take a look and see why?
RCN New York Market: YES Network
MSG Overflow Network
MSG Overflow Network Plus
SportsNet NY
RCN D.C Market :
Comcast Sports Net
Comcast Sports Net Plus
MASN (Mid Atlantic Sports Net)
MASN 2
RCN Boston Market:
New England Sports Net
Comcast Sports Net
RCN Chicago Market:
Comcast Sports Net
Comcast Sports Net Plus
RCN Philly/Lehigh Market:
Comcast Sports Net
I think this explains it pretty clear why we need and should have The Comcast Network added in the Philly/Lehigh Market. RCN its a no brainer. Case Closed!
Lehigh Valley actually has the YES Network in Standard Definition. It's on channel 403 here. Local Yankees/Mets fans can watch all their games in SD, but us Phillies fans can't watch it either way? |
|
| |
DMariner01
Anon
2013-Apr-9 11:36 am
said by shadyman777:Lehigh Valley actually has the YES Network in Standard Definition. It's on channel 403 here. Local Yankees/Mets fans can watch all their games in SD, but us Phillies fans can't watch it either way?
Pretty sure YES in the Lehigh valley is only the national feed without live game broadcasts, so no watching those games unless you get Extra Innings |
|
|
your moderator at work
hidden :
|
 JeepMattStreaming Tech Manager
Premium Member
join:2001-12-28
Seattle, WA |
to DMariner01
Re: [Need Info] Phillies BaseballBefore I left FIOS - word was that RCN wouldn't pony up the $$$ to get the fiber line fed to the headends that serve the Philly and LHV areas. That's how TCN is distributed.
At the time, FIOS paid the cost to have the fiber feed sent to their VHO on Oregon Ave in Philly.
FIOS gets both feeds of TCN (SD and HD) - but have only shown the SD feed since inception due to lack of capacity.
The fact that you guys can't get a straight answer from RCN probably alludes to that being true. |
|
Heggs
join:2008-11-30
Catasauqua, PA
2 edits |
to georgeq1
" word was that RCN wouldn't pony up the $$$ to get the fiber line fed to the headends that serve the Philly and LHV areas".
I'm tired of hearing all the "word was","he said,she said", and "I think" etc...etc. I want an explanation directly from RCN corporate to this Phillies Baseball forum telling us why they can't add this one channel to there Philly/LHV market! I know that will probably never happen because there is no excuse for RCN not to add a sports overflow channel to a major market like there Philly/LHV area. I already exposed all there other markets having at least 2 and up to 4 overflow channels in there lineup, so apparently money and fiber line fed headends were not an issue in those RCN market cities so why neglect this market? Also a ma and pa cable system here in the LHV (that I won't mention) that has coverage in only a few counties gives its customers TCN .So I don't want to hear its a cost issue and I don't want to hear its a legal issue, bottom line its an RCN issue! |
|
st89jebn
Premium Member
join:2009-07-22
Drexel Hill, PA
1 edit |
st89jebn
Premium Member
2013-Apr-10 3:33 pm
When Heggs is right, he is right!
|
|
Heggs
join:2008-11-30
Catasauqua, PA |
Heggs
Member
2013-Apr-10 7:33 pm
Trust me. I'm far from always right, but in this case its so obvious. I just want a true, legit explanation from RCN why this one channel cannot be added to our market. Plain and simple. Also to add insult to injury we miss another Phillies game tonight because of no TCN! Kudos RCN |
|
| |
to georgeq1
I see we will be missing a few more games next week. RCN sent out a promotional e-mail today part of which is "Feed your baseball obsession,RCN delivers all the action from around the league right to your living room." Should be an * after all stating you will not be able to watch 20% of your home team Phillies games.So all my Comcast and FIOS neighbors are watching the game but not at my house. RCN this has gone unanswered for too many years, please add the the TCN channel ASAP. |
|
Heggs
join:2008-11-30
Catasauqua, PA |
Heggs
Member
2013-Apr-11 3:30 am
I found this today doing some research on this issue that I thought was interesting. This was back in 2011 and the Morning Call is a LVH newspaper. I never new about this article but I can bet it would have a lot of response now compared to back then. But as I have stated before we first need an RCN representative to step up to the plate and address this with us. So RCN are you listening? We are waiting. » blogs.mcall.com/phillies ··· elp.html |
|
st89jebn
Premium Member
join:2009-07-22
Drexel Hill, PA |
to georgeq1
I sent another email to the VP / GM of the PA market this morning. I hope and pray that he will take immediate action to get us TCN. |
|
Heggs
join:2008-11-30
Catasauqua, PA |
Heggs
Member
2013-Apr-11 8:42 pm
Because this is such a hot topic on the forum,I can't believe we have not heard a peep from at least one of these people: "RCNCARES" (really?), RCN Premium VIP Bryan Laird, jmirabella +VIP VOD Operations and Negativeduck +VIP Director of Operations and Emily all have helped others with smaller issues and concerns on this forum in the past but not this one. Can we possibly get a response from someone please on this matter? |
|
rody_44
Premium Member
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA
1 edit |
to georgeq1
Dam i feel your guys pain. Was at my sons birthday party last night and he has rcn. Everybody was mad at me because i kept going to the neighbors to see the game. I noticed in the guide he had the nlb channels. If he subscribed to that would have i been able to see the game or would have it been blacked out? Oh well at least i got to watch the tenth inning. |
|
Heggs
join:2008-11-30
Catasauqua, PA |
Heggs
Member
2013-Apr-13 2:46 pm
If he subscribed to MLB he would get every game but the Phillies! The Phillies channel would be blacked out and say "Due to territory restrictions this game is not available. Check your local cable provider" or wording similar to that. Only problem is our local cable provider (RCN) doesn't offer us the channel (TCN) and that is what this post is all about. So you can't even buy it if you wanted it cause its blacked out on the MLB Package and not available on RCN cause of no TCN! Its a lose/lose situation if you are an RCN subscriber in the Philly/LVH market period! |
|
st89jebn
Premium Member
join:2009-07-22
Drexel Hill, PA |
to rody_44
said by rody_44: Dam i feel your guys pain. Was at my sons birthday party last night and he has rcn. Everybody was mad at me because i kept going to the neighbors to see the game. I understand your embarrassment. A houseful of people expecting to see the Phillies game on a Friday night, and your poor son has to tell his guests that his cable company does not carry some of his home team's games, and that they will have to go to the neighbors' house to watch the game. This has happened to me. There are not enough good things you could say about RCN to convince people that you should switch to a real cable company that carries all the games. If RCN does not see how bad this makes them look (first impressions are hard to change), nothing else will unfortunately. |
|
rody_44
Premium Member
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA |
rody_44
Premium Member
2013-Apr-15 2:54 pm
The more i thought about it why is it blacked out on MLB. Wasnt blackouts to encourage people to go to the game. Phillies sell out almost every game.
Since rcn doesnt listen even tho the three companies they compete with has it. (verizon, comcast, and service electric cable). Maybe you guys should try to get MLB to lift the blackout on mlb. What good is a blackout when you can go to your neighbors and watch the game? I have to say that tivo guide was awsome. I did have to ask my son to get rid of that annoying churp tho. |
|
st89jebn
Premium Member
join:2009-07-22
Drexel Hill, PA |
to georgeq1
Hopefully, tonight will be the final Phillies game on TCN unless the broadcast schedule changes. I'm disappointed that RCN did not come through again. |
|
| |
Home run to rody_44
Anon
2013-Apr-23 3:45 pm
to rody_44
Get MLB to lift blackout on mlb network? Your dreaming. Blackouts are meant to protect the stadium revenue and commercial ad revenue of the local channel carrying the game. In this case its to protect CSN/TCN. You would have an easier time convincing RCN of carrying TCN which I'm glad they don't cause I don't care about baseball. said by rody_44: The more i thought about it why is it blacked out on MLB. Wasnt blackouts to encourage people to go to the game. Phillies sell out almost every game.
Since rcn doesnt listen even tho the three companies they compete with has it. (verizon, comcast, and service electric cable). Maybe you guys should try to get MLB to lift the blackout on mlb. What good is a blackout when you can go to your neighbors and watch the game? I have to say that tivo guide was awsome. I did have to ask my son to get rid of that annoying churp tho.
|
|
| |
to georgeq1
said by georgeq1:.. if RCN doesn't provide The Comcast Network in it's lineup. I must be confused. Are you talking about a different channel than this one: 370 Comcast SportsNet- Sports: Philadelphia Channels 403 Comcast SportsNet- Sports: Lehigh Valley Channels |
|
| |
Not the same Channels, RCN carries Comcast Sportsnet(CSN), but not The Comcast Network(TCN) which has been carrying most Phillies game this season because CSN has the Flyers & 76ers commitments until the end of their seasons. We would miss more Phillies games if either of those teams were in the playoffs, but since that didn't happen we are hoping all the games will now be on CSN. This has been a major complaint with RCN for a number of years and thus far we've just received silence on why they won't carry it. It's getting to the point if your a sports fan in Philly market you really have to consider switching to Comcast. |
|
Heggs
join:2008-11-30
Catasauqua, PA |
to Pacomartin
"Are you talking about a different channel" Yes, this entire 3 page discussion is about getting RCN to add TCN (The Comcast Network) to the Philly/LVH market. Everyone gets the channel you posted CSN (Comcast SportsNet) but RCN refuses to give the Philly/LVH market the sports overflow channel TCN. Don't ask why because RCN won't respond or reply to anybody on this thread about it so we continue to be kept in the dark.. |
|
| |
to georgeq1
Even more disappointing then not getting the channel added is the complete lack of acknowledgement by RCN brass to the situation. Not even a simple "We hear you guys, but it's not going to happen. We'll try again next year." It's completely insulting, and is the insult on top of the injury of grossly ballooning rates and unwillingness to work on packages for customers.
If RCN had a legitimate high tech competitor in the Lehigh Valley, their sub rates would drop below 20%. Maybe even below 10%. |
|
|
Heggs
join:2008-11-30
Catasauqua, PA
1 edit |
Heggs
Member
2013-Apr-24 2:13 am
Enjoralas that is my biggest issue with them also. Have the stones to get someone to reply to us on this issue. Also you know that tiny other cable company (I won't mention the name) in our area does carry TCN plus all the Lehigh Valley Ironpigs home games so when RCN says its a cost thing why they can't add it you know its a complete lie. I was doing the math and from the way it looked without going into detail I can switch to the tiny company and the price would basically be the same for apples to apples and I would get more of what I want. Its sad but after many years and a lot of monthly payments to RCN it might be time to look outside the bun! |
|
Heggs
1 edit |
to Home run
OK, I see your last 5 words on your reply was " I don't care about baseball" but I think you just don't care about Phillies baseball because for someone who doesn't care for the sport I am puzzled you picked "Home run" for you forum name? |
|
| |
to Heggs
Thanks for clarifying the difference between TCN and CSN,
I am not sure what you expect someone from RCN to say. Since this question is a business question and not a technical one, then the answer will always be the same "xxx company thanks you for your input, and is always re-evaluating their product to meet customer requests. Your comment will be passed up the chain of command." Representatives on this forum don't make those decisions, and it is not as if they are not aware of the demand. Right now they just don't think it is important to their business model.
RCN does not provide access to new episodes on FOX.com, via TV On Demand, and via the FOX app on connected devices (like Xbox and Samsung Smart TVs). If I write them, it would only so that they would add my request to the list.
As near as I can tell, RCN's strength is that it offers a very high speed internet connection and TIVO service at a good price. As far as channel selections they don't offer anything special that is not also available to nearly every other cable company. |
|
| |
to st89jebn
TCN is the only place where comcast forces other systems to buy it to get the CSN overflow games.
For years CSN Chicago / FSN Chicago used CLTV that was cable and later comcast only for overflow and all the plus games where on systems that did not have CLTV.
They just used CLTV for the slot (started with analog cable) |
|
st89jebn
Premium Member
join:2009-07-22
Drexel Hill, PA
1 edit |
to Pacomartin
said by Pacomartin I am not sure what you expect someone from RCN to say. Since this question is a business question
As far as channel selections they don't offer anything special that is not also available to nearly every other cable company. The best business decision RCN could make is to add TCN to prevent lost customers. |
|
| st89jebn |
to Joe12345678
said by Joe12345678:TCN is the only place where comcast forces other systems to buy it to get the CSN overflow games. Yes, it's true that Comcast charges a lot for this channel. But cable companies like Service Electric understand that it is the cost of doing business in a competitive market where customers can switch to a different cable provider. |
|
