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d4m1r
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[CallCentric] 2 Questions

I'll keep this short, I have finally ported my POTS numbers to CC and am in the final stages of making the full transition from POTS Now, I've got 2 logistical questions that have arisen based on my setup;

1) With my POTS system, I did not have to dial 1 before my local area code (we have 10 digit dialling in my area). Now I have to. I am guessing this has to do with my dialplan? Find it below. I can understand why it's needed (to seperate local and 011 international calls) but is there some way to restore my old POTS functionality? So I don't have to dial 1 for any U.S/Canadian numbers but I do have to enter 011 for international calls?

(*xx.|*xxx|*75xx|[3469]11|0|00|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|**275*x.)

2) As well as my POTS DID, I also have the free NY DID still associated with my account. Now, I get free incoming on that DID so is there some way to just forward incoming calls on my POTS DID to that NY instead of paying for incoming? I'm going to assume no but it doesn't hurt to ask

If I can't, I really don't have any use for that NY DID so possible suggestions for it would be appreciated as well!
PX Eliezer1
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join:2013-03-10
Zubrowka USA

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said by d4m1r:

Now, I get free incoming on that DID so is there some way to just forward incoming calls on my POTS DID to that NY # instead of paying for incoming?

But you no longer HAVE a POTS DID if you ported it....

If you mean the number that you ported to CC, you have a choice of receiving calls on that number as PAYG (Pay per minute) or Flat-Rate (Personal Unlimited).

The Free NY DID is still available for free incoming calls to [that] number. One use for that would be to get a GoogleVoice number in a place of your choice, and forward calls from there to the Free NY DID. That is useful for a lot of people, but GV makes it less useful for Canadians.
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Your dial plan in many cases can be modified but the specifics depend on which ATA or IP phone you are using.

This plan will work well for CallCentric with a Linksys/Sipura ATA for example.

([49]11S0|*123S0|<:1>[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|1[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|011[2-9]x.|*xx.|*xxx|*75xxS0|**275*x.)
 

d4m1r
join:2011-08-25

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Should have mentioned I am using a PAP2T with a traditional wireless phone set. What does your dialplan do differently than the stock one I am using?

Thanks!
said by PX Eliezer1:

Your dial plan in many cases can be modified but the specifics depend on which ATA or IP phone you are using.

This plan will work well for CallCentric with a Linksys/Sipura ATA for example.

([49]11S0|*123S0|<:1>[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|1[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|011[2-9]x.|*xx.|*xxx|*75xxS0|**275*x.)
 

PX Eliezer1
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join:2013-03-10
Zubrowka USA

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Specifically with CC and with that ATA, that plan should let you dial 10 digits OR 11 digits for NorthAm calls, and dial 011 for calls outside the NorthAm area, while avoiding possible connection delays.
JeanInNepean
join:2012-09-19
Grenoble, FR

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When you forward a PAYG DID, you get charged for the incoming call as well as the outgoing call, although if the destination is a callcentric DID, I don't think there will be any outgoing charge. So forwarding your old POTS DID to your free NY DID will still incur a charge for the incoming call.
PX Eliezer1
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Zubrowka USA

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said by JeanInNepean:

So forwarding your old POTS DID to your free NY DID will still incur a charge for the incoming call.

Yes, but that's not quite what he was asking, even though he did use the word "forwarding".

Put another way, he was wondering if he could use the fact that the inbound calls to the NY DID are free to [somehow] make inbound calls to his Canadian DID effectively free as well.

Any forwarding [between] CallCentric DID's is free, after the call has come in from the PSTN, but that's not going to help get him on the subway in this case.
Ole Juul
join:2013-04-27
Princeton, BC

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said by d4m1r:

I really don't have any use for that NY DID so possible suggestions for it would be appreciated as well!

You could have it go directly to voice mail so someone could use that number to call you and leave a message at night without waking you up. You could also have it go directly to fax. Also, using call treatments you could have it set with an aggressive filter that you wouldn't use for your regular number, but would for this one which you could give out to, or use to call, places where you wouldn't necessarily want a return call - like using a separate e-mail address for some things.

Anyway, have a look at call treatments. Perhaps you'll get an inspiration.
PX Eliezer1
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Good ideas.

Also he could use it to impress girls. Very few Ottawa men have a Manhattan number. He could boast about his NY connections.

If he has any friends, relatives, or business associates in the USA, it could be easier/cheaper for them to call that NY number rather than his 613 number.

mozerd
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join:2004-04-23
Nepean, ON

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said by PX Eliezer1:

This plan will work well for CallCentric with a Linksys/Sipura ATA for example.

([49]11S0|*123S0|<:1>[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|1[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|011[2-9]x.|*xx.|*xxx|*75xxS0|**275*x.)
 

Would your dial plan work equally well with an Obi202 and CallCentric?
PX Eliezer1
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said by mozerd:

Would your dial plan work equally well with an Obi202 and CallCentric?

I'm not intimately familiar with saying hai to the Obi.

Obi digit maps are similar to Linksys dial plans, but not identical, AFAIK.

So you'd have to try it.

One thing I like about this plan is that if [411] connects properly, then [911] should also connect properly. And in any dial plan that I do, I always place this first before anything else.

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Of course, this will not work in a Grandstream/Handytone without doing some modifications, that company's syntax is different.

d4m1r
join:2011-08-25

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said by PX Eliezer1:

Specifically with CC and with that ATA, that plan should let you dial 10 digits OR 11 digits for NorthAm calls, and dial 011 for calls outside the NorthAm area, while avoiding possible connection delays.

Awesome, exactly what I was looking for!

Also, thanks for the suggestions guys....Given me some great ideas
alancurry
join:2006-10-02
Cedar Park, TX

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The dial plan below was taken straight from the Callcentric support page for the Obihai 100. I'm currently using it for my Obihai 202.

(*xx.|**275*x.|[3469]11|1xxxxxxxxxx|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|011xx.|xx.|(Mipd)|[^*#]@@.)

Alan
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join:2002-02-09
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Guess you didn't want my PAP2T afterall eh? LoL

Anybody want a genuine PAP2T? Got one forsale.....
JeanInNepean
join:2012-09-19
Grenoble, FR

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said by mozerd:

Would your dial plan work equally well with an Obi202 and CallCentric?

I haven't tried it, but that dial plan looks all right to me on the OBi devices, except for the **275 at the end, which could cause confusion. **2 is used to dial from SP2 on the OBi. I would just use a different * code using something like
([49]11S0|*123S0|<:1>[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|1[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|011[2-9]x.|*xx.|*xxx|*75xxS0|<*0:**275>*x.)
 
When you dial *0 (assuming *0 isn't used for anything else, otherwise, just just whichever code you prefer) followed by the SIP broker number, *0 will be replaced by **275 when the number gets dialed out. You could also have used something like
<*>*275*x.
 
which prepends an extra * when you dial SIP broker numbers preceded by *275.

Talking about SIP Broker, ENUMs can also be dialed out via SIP Broker. But if you want to do that, you'll have to make the last * optional (not sure if CallCentric will route the call if it doesn't see that * though):
<*0:**275>*?x.