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<title>Re: 40 pythons found in Canadian motel</title>
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<description><![CDATA[jaberi posted : the ontario couple has been charged with animal cruelty.......a man and a woman are charged with causing distress to an animal, failing to provide care necessary for an animal's general welfare and failing to provide adequate and appropriate water.]]></description>
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<title>Python pet shop owner had blood on hands</title>
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<description><![CDATA[jaberi posted : A reptile store owner under investigation for criminal negligence in the deaths of two boys after a large python escaped its enclosure had blood on his hands and shorts when police arrived at the scene in Campbellton, N.B., according to newly released court documents.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://ca.news.yahoo.com/python-pet-shop-owner-had-blood-hands-173023991.html" >ca.news.yahoo.com/python &middot;&middot;&middot; 991.html</A><br><br>................................................<br><br>human blood, phyton blood, whose blood would it be?......this whole incident is so poorly reported....so many loopholes nothing is making sense any more......<br>obviously police had that tested and should by now know whose blood it is?<br>get with it reporter.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[elwoodblues posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1657941" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1657941');">Mark</a>:</said><p>Snake ban incoming...the seedy underbelly of democracy in action. <br> </p></div>But but but.. think of the children......]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[DSA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1859671" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1859671');">PX Eliezer1</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><p>Ten days after a pet-store python killed two young Canadian brothers, authorities have seized 40 of the snakes at a motel in southern Ontario.<br><br>The constrictors, which ranged in length from 1 foot to 4.5 feet, were found Thursday in plastic storage bins and "were not being suitably cared for and were in distress," the Brantford Police Service said in a news release Friday.<br><br>The "anxious officers" who responded to the motel called the Brant County SPCA, which took the snakes into custody...<br></p></div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/16/canada-brantford-pythons-motel/2665571/" >www.usatoday.com/story/n &middot;&middot;&middot; 2665571/</A><br><br>You know you're in a bad motel when....<br> </p></div>Just up the road from me. I have no problem with snakes, hope they are in better conditions.]]></description>
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<title>Next---46 illegal pythons found in B.C. home</title>
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<description><![CDATA[PX Eliezer1 posted : <div class="bquote"><p>Conservation authorities found nearly 50 illegal pythons in a B.C. home Thursday.<br><br>Insp. Chris Doyle, of the B.C. Conservation Officer Service, told QMI Agency Saturday that the 46 reticulated pythons were euthanized the same day....<br></p></div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.torontosun.com/2013/08/17/46-illegal-pythons-found-in-bc-home" >www.torontosun.com/2013/ &middot;&middot;&middot; -bc-home</A><br><br>What is up with all this?!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[PX Eliezer1 posted : <div class="bquote"><p>Ten days after a pet-store python killed two young Canadian brothers, authorities have seized 40 of the snakes at a motel in southern Ontario.<br><br>The constrictors, which ranged in length from 1 foot to 4.5 feet, were found Thursday in plastic storage bins and "were not being suitably cared for and were in distress," the Brantford Police Service said in a news release Friday.<br><br>The "anxious officers" who responded to the motel called the Brant County SPCA, which took the snakes into custody...<br></p></div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/16/canada-brantford-pythons-motel/2665571/" >www.usatoday.com/story/n &middot;&middot;&middot; 2665571/</A><br><br>You know you're in a bad motel when....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jaberi posted : the ventilation system that the snake got into wasn't the buildings ventilation system, it was a ventilation system for the snakes enclosure, which by the way was the width of the room and ceiling high, not some little glass box in the corner of the room.....the snake was in the piping and the piping broke, but remember this snake is 14 feet long, it's head might have been out of the piping but 13 feet of him was still in the pipe..... this allowed the snake to ease it's way down to the floor......easing down to the floor is silent. <br><br>has it been confirmed by authorities that the python fell from the ceiling, and would the boys not have broken ribs or marks on the body if it coiled around them...also would the following scenario change anything as in the boys calling out for help?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jaberi posted : it seems like these kids were familiar with the snakes, just not this one....and it is alleged this python escaped before...<br><br>what would be interesting to know is if the owner or his son, or anyone else ever slept in this room before... he has had that snake since 2002.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2013/08/20130808-074121.html" >www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/su &middot;&middot;&middot; 121.html</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[IamGimli posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1859671" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1859671');">PX Eliezer1</a>:</said><p>But would it constrict (2 kids) at the same time?<br> </p></div>Snakes have very poor eyesight (none in the dark) and considering the size of the kids if they were sleeping in the same bed they may have been perceived as a unique prey by the snake. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[PX Eliezer1 posted : I'm no fan of snakes, but I don't panic at them.<br><br>Having said that, no way in hell I'd sleep overnight in a place that had a bunch of snakes, and as a parent I would not let my kid sleep in such a place either.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jaberi posted : maybe the boys did scream but everyone slept through it. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer0 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/949692" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=949692');">Rifleman</a>:</said><p>If it constricted the kids they never got a chance to make a sound, because as air is exhaled it constricts tighter.<br> </p></div>i could MAYBE believe that if it were one small child alone in a house...you are still going to be awoken when you can't breathe (natural reaction) and will be struggling for air...likely kicking and flailing your arms around...it is also likely possible to make some sort of sound and be capable of minor inhalations...at the very least, the other kid would have been awoken to the sounds of his brother flailing away in his bed and would have screamed for help...as i said, it just doesn't add up in my mind.<br><small>--<br>People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.<br><br>- George Orwell</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jackorama posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/589128" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=589128');">dirtyjeffer0</a>:</said><p>i would assume if "I" think it doesn't make sense, the investigation team would too and would be (perhaps even quietly) looking at alternative possibilities.<br> </p></div>I guess they would have to tread carefully because of the mess Charles Randal Smith caused &raquo;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Randal_Smith" >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch &middot;&middot;&middot; al_Smith</A> everything is going to be looked over through a fine tooth comb.  <br><small>--<br>"Whenever they invent something that's moron proof, someone comes by and invents a better moron."<br><br>"Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?"<br><br>"Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who do."</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[PX Eliezer1 posted : But would it constrict (2 kids) at the same time?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Gone posted : Oh for sure, you can bet on that.  This is far from over.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer0 posted : i would assume if "I" think it doesn't make sense, the investigation team would too and would be (perhaps even quietly) looking at alternative possibilities.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Gone posted : Well that's the whole point.  None of this makes any sense at all.  Who the hell knows.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer0 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1780183" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1780183');">Gone</a>:</said><p>The other possibility is that this snake had been so abused by its owners that its behaviour completely changed into something that wouldn't normally be expected.<br> </p></div>i'm not an expert on snakes, but such behaviour has never been mentioned by the experts, nor has that possibility been brought up.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Gone posted : The other possibility is that this snake had been so abused by its owners that its behaviour completely changed into something that wouldn't normally be expected.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer0 posted : i don't know...maybe they weren't looking to find anything and just went "yea, the snake must have done it".<br><br>i just don't get how the snake would kill 2 kids, without at least one waking up...as well, as mentioned by numerous experts, snakes just don't do this...i would hope the investigators are at least exploring the other possibilities that things may not be how they seem...that's all i'm saying.<br><small>--<br>People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.<br><br>- George Orwell</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Robert posted : I read somewhere that preliminary coroner report said the death was caused by being squeezed. You think if foul play was suspected they would have allowed the boys to be buried yesterday? <br><small>--<br>It's one thing to listen to an idiot talk. As soon as you respond, there are now 2 idiots having a conversation.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer0 posted : that, and we are to believe the snake killed both kids simultaneously?...as i said from the beginning, something doesn't smell right.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jaberi posted : ouch.........if a snake fell on me from the ceiling,  i'd  have a heart attack without it coiling or biting me.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jaberi posted : Thicker than a man&#146;s bicep and longer than two Shaquille O&#146;Neals, an African rock python can survive on just two or three good meals a year. But when it does decide to eat&#151;an antelope, perhaps, or maybe a monkey&#151;the chosen meal has no chance.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://ca.news.yahoo.com/python-experts-vexed-by-questions-about-new-brunswick-tragedy-175043744.html" >ca.news.yahoo.com/python &middot;&middot;&middot; 744.html</A><br><br>&#147;Snakes won&#146;t kill people just for the hell of it,&#148; Marais says. &#147;There is no snake that has malice in it that would intentionally go out and kill people and waste energy on it.&#148;]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Anav posted : One would have thought the coroner would have figured out foul play by now, if there had been any.<br>I know of another man?  that liked having many pets and small boys around.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mark posted : According to those who profit from it, it sure as fuck is. <br><br>And yes I agree, that isn't hunting. <br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://libertarian.on.ca/" >libertarian.on.ca/</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mark posted : No,they already had the opportunity to use that law and did not, so clearly another law is required. <br><br>And LOL at the revelation it was a goobermint minion who brought the snake to this guy in the first place. <br><br>Not Guilty! on any charges related to the rock python. <br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://libertarian.on.ca/" >libertarian.on.ca/</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[TigerLord posted : How about 27 counts of illegal animal possessions? ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mark posted : They need to make a law against having 27 illegal animals. <br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://libertarian.on.ca/" >libertarian.on.ca/</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jaberi posted : the python was euthanized, so big deal one would say.......but who is guilty in this case?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[PX Eliezer1 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1553681" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1553681');">Jackorama</a>:</said><p>Even getting stranger.    <br><br>Quote:  "Environment Canada said one of its wildlife officers brought the African rock python to Reptile Ocean in Campbellton 11 years ago, even though the species was banned in the province without a special permit."<br><br> </p></div>His lawyer will surely use that as a defense for that one specific charge of illegal possession....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jackorama posted : Even getting stranger.    <br><br>Quote:  "Environment Canada said one of its wildlife officers brought the African rock python to Reptile Ocean in Campbellton 11 years ago, even though the species was banned in the province without a special permit."<br><br>Read more: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cp24.com/news/environment-canada-delivered-python-to-pet-store-1.1404799#ixzz2bWb6SqDX" >www.cp24.com/news/enviro &middot;&middot;&middot; bWb6SqDX</A><br><br>I thought it was reported before that he got it from a friend.  It is amazing how the story keeps changing.<br><small>--<br>"Whenever they invent something that's moron proof, someone comes by and invents a better moron."<br><br>"Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?"<br><br>"Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who do."</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ZZZZZZZ posted : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2013/08/09/nb-illegal-animals-campbellton-snake.html?cmp=rss" >www.cbc.ca/news/canada/n &middot;&middot;&middot; ?cmp=rss</A><br><br>this is definitely getting strange.<br><small>--<br><b>Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupidity.</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jackorama posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/589128" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=589128');">dirtyjeffer0</a>:</said><p>it still seems fishy...how could the snake fall through the ceiling, bite (did it bite?) the 2 kids and simultaneously suffocate both children, without either making a peep?<br><br>i don't know...i suppose it's possible, but just doesn't seem to add up. <br> </p></div>I feel the same, something is not right with this story.  This type of snake would make a good alibi to cover up a crime.<br><br>Or the reporting of this story has really gotten out of hand.  Been seeing that a lot lately with major news stories.<br><small>--<br>"Whenever they invent something that's moron proof, someone comes by and invents a better moron."<br><br>"Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?"<br><br>"Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who do."</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[El Quintron posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/589128" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=589128');">dirtyjeffer0</a>:</said><p>i don't know...i suppose it's possible, but just doesn't seem to add up. <br> </p></div>CBC reported last night that the snake was on the same floor as the children, so both the kids and the snake were on the second floor of the building.<br><small>--<br>Support Bacteria -- It's the Only Culture Some People Have</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Thane_Bitter posted : It shouldn't be, however getting Quebec to agree is a crap shoot at best.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Thane_Bitter posted : It certainly did, though the term slither might be more apt. <br>Even if he renewed the paperwork, I wonder if his shop would have been inspected and the fault in the ceiling found; the incident may have still occurred however liability might be shifted somewhat.<br><br>You are right of course, at some many points this tragedy could have been prevented.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mark posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/642531" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=642531');">TigerLord</a>:</said><p>My uncle hunts with a crossbow and eats everything he kills (caribou or deer, usually). There's usually some for us as well. It's delicious. But while I was devouring my caribou filet mignon, I heard stories.  Aside the fact hunting trips can be mighty expensive, I was shocked to learn there are MANY International or American tourists that pay up to 15,000$ a trip just to kill stuff. <br></p></div>It would be an abomination in and of itself if they came to simply kill 'stuff'...it is far more hideous that this unfortunately as they come in droves to kill APEX predators. Here in Northern Ontario, 'sportsmen AND sportswomen' come to kill wolves. WARNING, UGLY LINK: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.northernwoodslodge.com/ontariowolfhunting.htm" >www.northernwoodslodge.c &middot;&middot;&middot; ting.htm</A><br><br><div class="bquote"><p>We hunt baited sites from heated ground blinds. You are either taken to the blind in the morning and picked up at lunch time then returned until dark, or you can take yourself to and from your blind with your own snowmobile.<br><br>We have a great supply of bait and attract a lot of wolves with the average shot being about 80 yards. Wolves are not in a habit of making mistakes, so scent eliminator and quiet clothing are a must. After a successful hunt your trophy will be professionally caped and ready for taxidermy.</p></div>The pictures of these misguided fools as they pose with their 'trophies' is enough to incite murder, the fact that women are among the shooters ought to put to rest any notion that the fairer sex is any more enlightened.<br><br>Hunting for food? Aside for the MNR being chronically underfunded and unable to act before species become genuinely vulnerable, deer hunters in the region have done a good job of keeping ungulate population numbers from becoming a menace, although it took a bow hunt within city limits last fall to cull the herds down to manageable levels. From a species level perspective, their migration from more distant habitats into areas where human/deer interact is a concern, they become like rats with hooves and a very real threat to drivers. Moose populations, at least in NWO are fairly stable but trending downwards, Minnesota experienced a 30% decline in one winter for reasons unknown last year, if that is observed across our border I and other responsible stewards of the northland habitat would fully support a moratorium on the moose hunt until it recovers. <br><br>I fully realize that it is hard for some in the midst of their concrete jungles to grasp that if it wasn't for the hunt, people up here would not be eating. As it stands, the economy is in a bit of a boom and jobs are almost plentiful. The early 2000s told a different story, the last of the forestry mills shuttered, victims of globalization and Mcdaltons industrial energy pricing schemes. It was ugly, hunting during that period was subsistence based with 'poachers' unable to afford the tags that legalized the kill. <br><br>The dichotomy between killing for fun and killing to eat should be clear, unfortunately some seem make no such distinction as they stare down their noses at the steak on their plate. <br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://libertarian.on.ca/" >libertarian.on.ca/</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jaberi posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1133865" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1133865');">analog andy</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/350435" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=350435');">DKS</a>:</said><p>And people say these snakes are "harmless". Right.  :uhh: I used to live in Campbellton, not far from that place. <br> </p></div>Right two people die from snake suffocation in Canada once in what, 50 years while 100's die in car accidents every year. Yah... Hell more die from police tazering every year.<br> </p></div>there are one thousand times as many cars out there, so of course the injuries will be higher........python's are not meant to be pets and kept in enclosed small spaces, it is not a life for a snake.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[El Quintron posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1859671" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1859671');">PX Eliezer1</a>:</said><p>Yes, but they have [not] been totally banned, merely subject to permit.<br><br>If they had been totally banned, there would have been no doubt.<br> </p></div>At some point between the ban and the Zoo license lapsing a flag of some sort should have been triggered, not to mention improper lodging of a dangerous animal. <br><br><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1859671" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1859671');">PX Eliezer1</a>:</said><p>(I'm probably one of the few Americans who has been there, twice)<br> </p></div>A few notable Americans have enjoyed the waters of Cambellton across the years. ;)<br><br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>or over 100 years, the Restigouche has attracted many of the world&#146;s leading sportsmen. Among the VIPs who have fished the Restigouche are the Duke of Windsor, George H.W. Bush, Norman Schwarzkopf, Hubert Humphrey, Ted Williams, Bing Crosby, William K. Vanderbilt, Lord Beaverbrook, Maurice Richard, and Brian Mulroney.<br><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.restigouchelodge.com/our-water" >www.restigouchelodge.com &middot;&middot;&middot; ur-water</A><br><small>--<br>Support Bacteria -- It's the Only Culture Some People Have</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[PX Eliezer1 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1547832" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1547832');">El Quintron</a>:</said><p>I don't know if you read my reply above, but this was and enforcement issue and not a lack of regulation, African Rock Pythons had been banned in New Brunswick since 2009.<br> </p></div>Yes, but they have [not] been totally banned, merely subject to permit.<br><br>If they had been totally banned, there would have been no doubt.<br><br><div class="bquote"><p>In New Brunswick, where police have said the snake escaped through the roof of its glass enclosure and attacked the four-year-old and six-year-old brothers, <b>the province requires a special permit</b> for the African rock python and other large constrictors.<br><br>A statement from the province says the owner of the snake didn't have a permit and the Department of Natural Resources didn't know it was in the building.<br><br>Laidlaw says New Brunswick's rules are better than Ontario's, where ownership rules are left to municipal governments and there is no province-wide restrictions on owning the giant snakes.<br></p></div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/the-canadian-press/130806/new-brunswick-government-says-no-permit-was-issued-snake-kil" >www.globalpost.com/dispa &middot;&middot;&middot; nake-kil</A><br><br>And Campbellton sits on the NB/QC border.  (I'm probably one of the few Americans who has been there, twice).  It brings up the problem of having wildly different rules all over the country.<br><br>Why should the RCMP have to worry about them being banned in NB and not banned in some other RCMP area?<br><br>In those parts of Ontario policed by the OPP, why should an officer have to worry about which individual towns allow big snakes and which don't?<br><br>I'm talking about the big picture, not only this one tragedy.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jaberi posted : but when being transferred from the zoo, this particular one has slipped through the process somehow..i think that was their reason for it being uncounted for. <br><br>anyways snakes do not belong in enclosures, what kind of life is that?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[El Quintron posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1859671" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1859671');">PX Eliezer1</a>:</said><p>Getting some national regulation for dangerous snakes in Canada, or having a model law for the individual provinces to consider, should not be that difficult.<br> </p></div>I don't know if you read my reply above, but this was and enforcement issue and not a lack of regulation, African Rock Pythons had been banned in New Brunswick since 2009.<br><small>--<br>Support Bacteria -- It's the Only Culture Some People Have</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[PX Eliezer1 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1143582" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1143582');">Thane_Bitter</a>:</said><p>I am too cynical to believe anything will change, take Sandy Hook, oh how quickly the outrage and demand for change slid sideways into apathetic murmurings.  Lac-Megantic will likely turn out to be the same, better regulations will be proposed, however implementing them is another matter and as the years pass, little will change, people will die, profits will be bolstered by cutting corners.<br> </p></div>But---the problem in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, Columbine, and so many others, is that we Americans have an enormous gun lobby as you know, tied in with an almost religious fervor belief of the 2nd Amendment.<br><br>There is NO big well-funded group that will demand rights for python owners.  NRA does [not] stand for National Reptile Association.<br><br>Getting some national regulation for dangerous snakes in Canada, or having a model law for the individual provinces to consider, should not be that difficult.<br><br>As far as Railroad safety, in addition to government regulations it is high time for the Insurance Companies to get off their butts and start verifying that their clients are running safe operations.  That is to the insurer's benefit.]]></description>
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