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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:34:05 EDT

elwoodblues posted : You'll find him on Twittter, he got pissed after the last crash, saying the admins were blocking his IP.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:26:49 EDT

TwiztedZero posted : Latest Bike Theif News: Cyclist steals his bike back

Just thought since it happened in Toronto, I'd pass it on.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:00:54 EDT

HiVolt posted :

said by Link Logger:

My son rides his bike to work pretty much every day all year and has gone through a number of bikes but his current commuter ride is a belt drive with internal gearing which he loves and I think he found it through Kijiji.

Blake

Yeah, my cousin has a belt drive alfine 11 setup... its nice... but he had to spend about a grand more than i spent...

Belt drive bikes need a special frame that have a removable piece on the rear triangle to feed the belt thru.

The chain drive Alfine 11 IGH has been fine for me... Still get the benefit of no crud in gears, and just light oiling of the chain.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:45:57 EDT

Link Logger posted : My son rides his bike to work pretty much every day all year and has gone through a number of bikes but his current commuter ride is a belt drive with internal gearing which he loves and I think he found it through Kijiji.

Blake
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:14:34 EDT

TypeS posted : I sure wouldn't mind any knowledge JF would have, although if he's the same JF I'm thinking of that posts in the now closed voltage thread, I don't if he wants to share his wisdom me in particular. :huh:

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:12:11 EDT

HiVolt posted :

said by decx:

What I've heard is that most of the problems with the Alfine (other than seal leaks) is mainly due to the rider grinding away on the pedals while changing gears. The proper shifting method on an IGH is to let up on the pedal (well decrease pedal torque) while shifting gears.

Yeah... I adapted pretty quickly to doing just that. Works well enough. Havent had any leaks yet and shifting has been silky smooth. Next year I will have to change the oil, I think they recommend it every 2 years.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:09:05 EDT

decx posted : What I've heard is that most of the problems with the Alfine (other than seal leaks) is mainly due to the rider grinding away on the pedals while changing gears. The proper shifting method on an IGH is to let up on the pedal (well decrease pedal torque) while shifting gears.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:55:54 EDT

HiVolt posted :

said by decx:

There's actually people who run the 11 speed Alfine IGH on converted mountain bikes. It's not what it was designed for but it does work. For a more robust IGH (and way more $$$$) there's the Rohloff.

Yeah, the Rohloff ones are nice, i think they make a 14 speed now.. Bit yeah, pricey...

Yeah i've heard of the Alfine 11 being used on MTB's as well, but it doesnt hold up too long as its not designed to handle that much increased torque for a long time.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:54:43 EDT

decx posted :

said by HiVolt:

said by decx:

Yes hydraulic discs are great, but whatever you do I recommend staying away from Avid Elixirs. SRAM/Avid has been making brakes for years but for some reason, problems like incessant squealing, difficult (relative to Shimano) bleeding, have never been fixed. Worse yet, these problems appear not just on the low end but higher up on the range as well.

Really... I've had the Elixir CR's for about 3 years now and they've been great for me... no squealing at all wet or dry, and they stop on a dime. haven't had a need to bleed or adjust them at all yet.

I think at the time they were the 2nd from the top in the Avid lineup.

I got them cheap as they were a pull from a new bike.

Unfortunately it's a rather common problem with Elixirs (Google "Elixir squeal"), all the potential solutions usually tend to stop the squeal for a short time but it almost always comes back. Frankly when riding you can sometimes hear a bike with Avid brakes before you see them.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:51:44 EDT

decx posted : There's actually people who run the 11 speed Alfine IGH on converted mountain bikes. It's not what it was designed for but it does work. For a more robust IGH (and way more $$$$) there's the Rohloff.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:50:35 EDT

HiVolt posted :

said by decx:

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:42:02 EDT

decx posted : Yes hydraulic discs are great, but whatever you do I recommend staying away from Avid Elixirs. SRAM/Avid has been making brakes for years but for some reason, problems like incessant squealing, difficult (relative to Shimano) bleeding, have never been fixed. Worse yet, these problems appear not just on the low end but higher up on the range as well.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:17:16 EDT

HiVolt posted : I do like that integrated 11 speed hub in my MEC Chance bike though... Sure it doesnt have the low range of a mountain bike, but it doesnt have to... has enough range for street and park rides.

I once tried a bike with 7 speed hub, and I felt like that was not enough.

What's really neat about it is you can shift when not pedaling. so if you're at a light and you forgot to downshift, you can just flick the shifter into a lower gear and off you go.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:11:34 EDT

elwoodblues posted : Hydraulic shifting would be cool.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:08:04 EDT

HiVolt posted :

said by elwoodblues:

I have disc specific frame/wheels so I'm starting to think about putting on Disc brakes too. I loved the stopping power on my F800

Hydraulic disc are awesome. I've had discs since 2003, i have since upgraded them on my Giant to Avid Elixir CR and its awesome... on the MEC Chance bike it has Shimano M505 i think, they are more than adequate for an urban bike.

But I'll never go back to standard brakes...

I'm waiting when they will have hydraulic gear shifting... that will be cool.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:46:15 EDT

MaynardKrebs posted : So? I'm sure he can advise about how to proceed up the bicycle ladder.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:39:48 EDT

elwoodblues posted :

said by MaynardKrebs:

said by TypeS:

So I'm looking into purchasing bicycle for commuting to work, about 10km either direction 5 times a week and recreational riding in my free time.

Any other suggestions for bikes around the same price range?

You need to speak with JF.

IIRC he has a Cervello, it's not cheap.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:37:40 EDT

MaynardKrebs posted :

said by TypeS:

You need to speak with JF.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:23:26 EDT

decx posted : Unfortunately, that micro chip in your pet doesn't tell you when it starts wandering and where it wandered off to. :)

Seriously, there are a number of services like that (Bike Shepherd bar code, police S/N registry, etc.). Frankly it doesn't really help as no one really goes around scanning bikes for chips/barcodes/SN to see if they're stolen.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:16:36 EDT

TwiztedZero posted :

said by decx:

More locks the better. A combination of harden chain and short shackle u-locks will buy more time (though they can be quite heavy to lug around).

And/or consider a bike tracker.

I did mention above to "get it chipped" which is part of the tracking/recovery - Just like you get your pets micro-chipped. Stuff like this could help you vs. the Terrible Igors of the world. :)
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:01:50 EDT

elwoodblues posted :

said by decx:

And/or consider a bike tracker.

Good idea, won't work for me, my shock lockout is exactly where you are supposed install the tracker.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:57:24 EDT

elwoodblues posted : I have LX in the front XT in the back, I'm thinking of replacing all with XTR.

I have disc specific frame/wheels so I'm starting to think about putting on Disc brakes too. I loved the stopping power on my F800

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:39:42 EDT

decx posted : More locks the better. A combination of harden chain and short shackle u-locks will buy more time (though they can be quite heavy to lug around).

And/or consider a bike tracker.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:19:15 EDT

HiVolt posted : Speaking of components, I also have a 2003 Giant Warp DS1, which came with a Deore LX drivetrain. Extremerely reliable, never had a problem with it, has thousands of trail kilometers... My brother also has a 2004 Specialized Hard Rock also with LX and no problems either.

Not sure what Deore LX is equivalent to in today's Shimano lineup, but I have been extremely satisfied with it.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:57:41 EDT

TwiztedZero posted :

said by TypeS:

I did some investigating about locks, will be going with an OnGuard U-lock.

Yuh, professional bike theives, (not the opportunists) will employ everything from bolt cutters to simple hammers & freon or compressed air, or even hacksaws (I've seen peeps saw thru locks while the cops where standing nearby without a care in the world). So don't stop at the best lock ever and think it'll be 100% immune to theft.

Take pictures of you and your bike, write down the serial numbers, get your bike chipped if its high end (some have them allready embedded), same with all the major parts like the seats, brakes and calipers and anything else removable; and of course maybe get the thing insured if you can. Just in case. I know it might sound like overkill but a grand or two isn't just pocket change for most people.

Bike theives generally don't get slapped hard enough to discourage them. Witness the fella that stole a few thousands of them and was using them for parts or reselling them at a few bike stores downtown Toronto - or even shipping them to other cities for the same.
I think Igor Kenk was the name of the guy from the big story that broke in 2008, spent only 16 months in jail for it out of a 30 month sentence he received, shesh.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:49:11 EDT

TypeS posted : Yup, that's the conservation park I was talking about. At least I'm pretty sure it's called a conservation park. Been to lots of picnics and boating events there.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:22:47 EDT

Thane_Bitter posted : Indirectly related, but there is a multi use trail around lake Fanshawe, the south end of it is easy however the Northern parts are less refined and full of bumps. It isn't free (you have to buy a pass at the gatehouse off Clarke Road. The North most area also is on the road and makes use of the bridge at the top of the lake, watch out as there are many gravel trucks moving on the road at high speed.

»www.thamesriver.on.ca/Pa ··· rail.htm

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:16:20 EDT

TypeS posted : Yeah, from reading the page I linked, I seemed Deore seemd to be best balance between quality and budget for Shimano. SRam's X9 started get into a pretty pricey range.

When I get my bike next week and start riding it daily, I guess I will see how SRam performs and lasts. I've got a friend who's pretty knowledge about bikes and it's why I settled on Kona.

I realize buying low and doing a planned upgrade isn't the most ideal but I think the Kona Lava Dome seems to decent enough for it's price. Hopefully the fork will be up to task for at least a year or until Spring. It seems to be pretty standard for bikes in this price range.

Now I need to go find about fork manufacturers and who's good and who's not.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:10:02 EDT

decx posted : In the drive-train hierarchy X7 isn't too bad (though I'm not a fan of SRAM stuff). In SRAM's range X7 is comparable to Shimano's SLX range.

As for brands, Norco isn't bad it just depends on the line and build kit you get. They do have some very nice (and pricey) hardtails and FS available.

As for bottom line components, XT is far too expensive and relatively high end for the entry level rider. Frankly with 2014 Shimano drive trains, Deore is just fine (there's even a Plus version with the clutched rear derailleur this year). The main advantage SLX, XT, and XTR has over cheaper lines is mainly weight saving plus some goodies like finned brakes, nicer rotors and (more importantly for some cyclists) more bling. Functionally there is some differences like slightly crisper shifting, but not something many riders notice. However, I wouldn't suggest going below Deore as from there stuff gets into the department store bike components.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:37:29 EDT

TypeS posted : A better bike would cost a good chunk of change more when I checked SRam X7 and Shimano Deore prices, I definitely would not have gotten anything near my price range with a good frame, wheels and tires. I also did not want to settle for CCM or Supercycle. I looked at Norco's beginner mountain bikes and they too had Suntour forks.

I appreciate what you're saying though elwoodblues and I will keep Cannondale in mind for my next purchase.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:03:00 EDT

elwoodblues posted : It's a little more then coke vs pepsi, it's like shoulder blade steak vs tenderloin.

And again, there are various steps in the Shimano line too. Look at the LX or XT as your bottom line for gear components.

At the same time, if you are going to replace the drive train and shock, you would have been better off buying a better bike.

Just saying...

Remember, the sum of the parts are great then that of the whole.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:57:18 EDT

TypeS posted :

said by HiVolt:

I picked up this bike a year ago in the spring... been very happy with it.

»www.mec.ca/product/5024- ··· -unisex/

I bit outside of my price range haha.

@dvandervelde

I didn't take anything as raining my parade, I did ask for the advice. If anything what elwoodblues said made, go do some research about SRam and Shimano. What I found was that in general between two, it's like choosing between Coke and Pepsi, its personal preference.

This person's explanation is really good for an amateur like me: »www.texasmountainbiketra ··· ankings/

Seems the SRam components I have are their bottom line, so perhaps in the spring of 2014 I will consider replacing the entire drive train and brakes with SRam X7 or Shimano Deore. The fork I will definitely replace. And then just keep the bike for years to come.

Ask for the thought of it getting stolen, it's something my mother keeps hounding me about. I did some investigating about locks, will be going with an OnGuard U-lock. And there's underground parking at my work with bike racks and security patrol. So I won't have to leave my bike on an outside rail. I know the risk is still there, but I'll do everything possible to make sure I mitigate the risk.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:28:56 EDT

elwoodblues posted : The difference in the ride between a "cheap bike" and a good one is night and day.

I had a Norco bike(exact one escapes me at the moment) , cost me about a 1000 bucks 15 or so years ago.
It got stolen, a buddy lent me his Cannondale M300 (the lowest of the line) and the difference was night and day. Then I bought my F900 and eventually a F800 Lefty for off roading.

You're right, I look at it as someone is going to steal it, if I can't bring my bike into the office, I'm not leaving it outside.

That said I have left it locked outside bars , movie theatres for hours, without any repercussions.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:43:17 EDT

ekster posted : High end bikes aren't for everyone though. I did ride on one a few times as I borrowed it from a friend, but I just stuck with CCM bikes for myself. I do take care of them though and don't just ride and then toss it in the garage, so they end up lasting me long enough to make it worth it.

First one didn't last long, but I was a kid and did not take care of it at all. I think it fell apart after 3 years. The second one was a low end one that I bought when I was a teenager. I took care of it and it was still in very good condition after 4 years. It was stolen from me at that point, unfortunately. I think I only ever replaced the brakes on it.

Last one I got 3 years ago, it was a decent but used CCM bike. It was about a year old and barely used (looked like they took it out once or twice). During the 3 years, I used it pretty regularly and did enjoy taking it on rough paths. While the ride is not as smooth as it would be on a much better quality bike, it still works perfectly well, I get an enjoyable ride for only $200, and do not fear about it getting stolen. And I bet it will easily last me at least another 3-4 years before I need to start replacing anything big.

I did look at the better bikes in the $1000-3000 range, but then I realized I would never be able to take it out unless I know that it will not leave my sight from the moment I step out of my house to the point I am back in the house. It's just way too easy to steal it if someone is determined, unfortunately. So with my cheap CCMs, I never have to worry about someone grabbing it and spend more time enjoying being out, than worrying about where I should leave it and if I can see it.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:33:12 EDT

HiVolt posted : I picked up this bike a year ago in the spring... been very happy with it.

»www.mec.ca/product/5024- ··· -unisex/
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:31:52 EDT

elwoodblues posted :

said by RogueMonk:

Some people need to rain on everyone's parade. You have purchased your new bicycle. Now get out and enjoy it. :)

Not raining on his parade, I'm a snob when it comes to bikes. My Cannondale in the shed has been on the road well over 12yrs at one point was seeing more mileage then my car/truck. I'd like to see a inexpensive one last that long.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:45:40 EDT

RogueMonk posted : Some people need to rain on everyone's parade. You have purchased your new bicycle. Now get out and enjoy it. :)
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Sun, 18 Aug 2013 21:58:54 EDT

TypeS posted : Well I don't plan on tossing it away, I can either resell it or hand it over to family member.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:59:16 EDT

dirtyjeffer0 posted : if you are only going to use it for a couple of years, i would have just bought a decent CCM (of whatever) for $200.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:55:47 EDT

TypeS posted :

said by RogueMonk:

Great to hear. What was it worth, if I may ask?

$650

@elwoodblues

Well I was made aware that brake kit wasn't the best but still better than other stuff found box stores.

A friend of mine also mentioned about the fork form Suntour not being that great. The reason I went with a mountain bike over a hybrid is because I plan to take it to places like Pinery and the conservation park here on the river.

As for the SRam components, the Felt bike I was looking at had Sunrace cassete which I've been told are much worse than SRam.

You may be right about going with the Kijiji find, but I still feel confident about the bike I chose. I know I got a low end mountain bike, it's what I intended. I will use it for year or two, learn more about bikes. Maybe switch out a few parts, like the SRam parts if they are as bad as you say. But I will ultimately be purchasing a better bike in the middle term, I just want something decent to start off with.

Maybe some other bike-savvy folk can comment on the quality of SRam components?

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:23:43 EDT

elwoodblues posted : I hate to say this, but the "manager" lied to you.

1) SRam is the bottom of the line in gear components.
2) HDC300 disc brake kit is also the extreme low end.
3) The Suntour shock is the bottom of the line,crappiest thing they make, it's going to going to fail with time, with you using it for commuting you would have been better off with a rigid fork.

You would have been better of spending the money on the f700 link I found on Kijii for you.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:15:14 EDT

RogueMonk posted : Great to hear. What was it worth, if I may ask?

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:23:59 EDT

elwoodblues posted : I got a couple of cannondales,but then I'm a bike snob.

Seriously though, stay away from the crappy tire "sports shop" type stores,they sell made in Taiwan/China garbage.

It'll last a season or 2 then it's ready for the scrap heap.

»london.kijiji.ca/c-buy-a ··· 09114434 Remove the knobbies and put on slicks and you have a quality road bike.

That's it in the reasonable price range.
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Sat, 17 Aug 2013 01:18:07 EDT

TwiztedZero posted : I say buy 2 bikes....

•sturdy but not expensive or flashy one with a low profile for commutes to work n back. Something you won't cry over if its damaged or stolen while at work. But sturdy enough that it'll get you through the seasonal elements. $300 or less. (Shoot for second hand bikes for this one)

•A more spendy one for your own recreation time. Cause you're less likely to leave it out unattended overnights or in strange places. This one you can have all your bells n whistles special brakes and calipers , custom seat, shocks and all you know. As much as you wana spend. (Brand new purchase)
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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Fri, 16 Aug 2013 23:59:03 EDT

Pauly posted : where abouts in toronto do u live i can guide you to some good bike shops

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:16:58 EDT

FFH5 posted : »www.konaworld.com/lava_dome.cfm

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:02:24 EDT

TypeS posted : Well thank you all for the advice. I went to some other shops to weigh my options. Never made it To Wheels or Village Cycle. I walked into a Cyclepath we have here in London and spent an hour asking a lot of questions to the owner or manager. He answered and explained to me everything the way I'd explain computer and IT related stuff to folk, detailed and worded so I can understand. He told my why some component manufacturers are better than others and which to never touch with a 10 ft pole. I was sold on customer service and the time he took time to educate me as much as reasonable. I'm no bike mechanic, I took auto shop twice in high school, so I know thing or two but not enough to shop un-assisted.

Went with the Kona Lava Dome (2014) mountain bike. Will update with pics and riding experience when I receive my new daily commuter.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Sun, 11 Aug 2013 12:23:37 EDT

RogueMonk posted : For regular commute, go to a bicycle store and get a good quality bike. I have a basic Norco ($379 eight years ago) and its never had an issue. While you don't need to spend $1000, you do need to get something more than a big box store.

Also, for regular commute use, consider carefully the weight of the bike. Tire size is another consideration, too small and they can puncture too easily, too large and they add a lot or resistance. My buddy had a nice bicycle with thin tires and he was constantly puncturing them on road debris (broken glass, sharp items, etc.).

Good luck!

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Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Sun, 11 Aug 2013 12:10:24 EDT

dirtyjeffer0 posted : if you need a bike now, Costco also has some, which i think are even Canadian made...i'm not sure what the selection is like this late in the season, but worth a peak if you have a membership...i thought the bikes looked pretty decent and were well priced...i think $300 gets you a really nice bike there.

Re: In need of some bicycle advice

Sun, 11 Aug 2013 12:07:13 EDT

dirtyjeffer0 posted : if you aren't in a hurry to get a bike, wait until the next Police Auction...you can likely get a $500 bike for $100 or less (of course, depending on who is there to bid on it)...my buddy owns an auction business and they get most of the police auction contracts...the London Police auction often has hundreds of bikes available for sale ranging from cheap garbage to some really high end stuff...the reason why bikes are rarely claimed is the good stuff is often claimed through insurance (so already replaced) and sometimes the stolen items are recovered long after the actual theft (perhaps 2 years later, but they don't know who owns the bike originally and the owner has long since given up looking for it).

»www.mckenzieauction.com
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