dslreports logo
uniqs
7
VirtualLarry
Premium Member
join:2003-08-01

VirtualLarry to Betamax76

Premium Member

to Betamax76

[Channels] Re: MPEG-4 is now being used for the .TV channels

Is this why channels like AMC (non-HD) are so horribly blocky, that they look worse than a YouTube video on my HD set-top box and 720P 32" LCD TV connected via HDMI?

I can still detect the MPEG blocks, even on the HD channels, although they are much less pronounced.

It's absolutely horrid on the SD channels like AMC.

matcarl
Premium Member
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY

matcarl

Premium Member

said by VirtualLarry:

Is this why channels like AMC (non-HD) are so horribly blocky, that they look worse than a YouTube video on my HD set-top box and 720P 32" LCD TV connected via HDMI?

I can still detect the MPEG blocks, even on the HD channels, although they are much less pronounced.

It's absolutely horrid on the SD channels like AMC.

AMC has already been discussed in other topics, it's sent at a low bit rate from the provider.

bohratom
One day my Jersey Giants will win again
join:2011-07-07
Red Bank NJ

bohratom to VirtualLarry

Member

to VirtualLarry
said by VirtualLarry:

It's absolutely horrid on the SD channels like AMC.

All SD channels are mpeg2.
tnsprin
join:2003-07-23
Bradenton, FL

tnsprin

Member

All Sd Channels are currently MPEG2. There had been discussion of switching some to mpeg4 by Verizon, but so far none have been done.

motorola870
join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX

motorola870

Member

said by tnsprin:

All Sd Channels are currently MPEG2. There had been discussion of switching some to mpeg4 by Verizon, but so far none have been done.

The only ones that I could see Verizon shifting to MPEG4 would be SD PPV packages such as the special events channels that Verizon has for PPV events and maybe ESPN PPV, TEAM and GAME channels? Does Verizon allow those to be viewed on the DCT700s?
tnsprin
join:2003-07-23
Bradenton, FL

tnsprin

Member

said by motorola870:

said by tnsprin:

All Sd Channels are currently MPEG2. There had been discussion of switching some to mpeg4 by Verizon, but so far none have been done.

The only ones that I could see Verizon shifting to MPEG4 would be SD PPV packages such as the special events channels that Verizon has for PPV events and maybe ESPN PPV, TEAM and GAME channels? Does Verizon allow those to be viewed on the DCT700s?

I think the problem with DCT700's was one of the things that killed it when they were thinking of it last time. Of course the replacement of some SD boxes was also a factor.

Noles92
@graduateschool.edu

Noles92

Anon

There is simply no excuse for Fios not having the following:

CBS Sports Channel HD
Hallmark Channel HD
HLN HD
H2 HD
Cooking Channel HD
Sony Movie Channel HD
Fox Sport 2 HD
Disney Jr HD
thetick
join:2009-06-22
White Plains, NY

thetick

Member

said by Noles92 :

There is simply no excuse for Fios not having the following:
.....

No provider has all available HD channels in HD. Go ahead and switch and you'll just swap a bunch and probably have many more added the list!
It's tough negotiating contracts for decent price, otherwise we would all be paying 2-3X more for just a few more channels.

celticpride
@verizon.net

celticpride

Anon

Yeah its tricky,I want to switch to directv but with my luck, once i do that verizon fios will upgrade their system with a ton of new hd channels!I have been bugging verizon of the importance of having all the mlb nhl,and nba games in their sports packages in HD for over 3 years now and they just dont seem to care!

charliewatts
join:2013-04-10

charliewatts to Noles92

Member

to Noles92
Disney Jr? Really??
Strommy
join:2010-04-23
King Of Prussia, PA

Strommy to Noles92

Member

to Noles92
said by Noles92 :

There is simply no excuse for Fios not having the following:
Disney Jr HD

Do 3 year olds really care if it's in HD or not?
blue_trooper
join:2007-04-17
Exton, PA

blue_trooper

Member

said by Strommy:

Do 3 year olds really care if it's in HD or not?

No, they don't.
webcobbler
join:2013-03-09
Rumson, NJ

webcobbler

Member

Probably not.

However, as a Parent's POV...my only argument for ANY SD channel watching is: Watching in HD is better on the eyes than watching a SD channel, or Movie etc. Due to how far one is away from the TV, Squinting to see the Picture better, etc.

That is all.

matcarl
Premium Member
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY

matcarl

Premium Member

Also, it's nice to fill up the screen if it's available in HD.

bohratom
One day my Jersey Giants will win again
join:2011-07-07
Red Bank NJ

1 edit

bohratom to Strommy

Member

to Strommy
said by Strommy:

Do 3 year olds really care if it's in HD or not?

Believe it or not advertisers target young parents for preschool age shows. I've seen the demo's for these shows which clearly backs up the case.
blue_trooper
join:2007-04-17
Exton, PA

blue_trooper

Member

I didn't think Disney Jr. had any advertising.

I don't think that we should never get it in HD but it's well down on my priority list.

Oh, and I managed to grow up with 20-15 vision watching a 20" tube back when 720P and 1080i sounded like really bad guesses in Battleship.