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Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:49:32 EDT

criggs posted : For what it's worth, I'm having problems with YouTube through Verizon FIOS.

Some of what I wrote above still holds. If I use Download Helper to get the URL for the second highest speed (the highest speed can't be played in real time outside of the Youtube interface since it is actually two files played in sync, the audio and the video, although they can be downloaded), then copy that URL into the standalone VLC player, it works fine. The streaming pattern when played through the VLC player is quite different from the pattern when played through the Flash interface on the Youtube page. There are no zero data periods; the pattern is roughly as follows: about 50% of the time it runs at .5 meg, and the visible pattern is quite straight, almost as if it's being capped; the rest of the time it either drops to .3 megs for about two to four seconds or bursts up to .8 megs for about one to two seconds; and the playback is rock-solid.

Here's some additional info.

First, the streaming pattern: When Verizon FIOS is in its "fail Youtube" mode, here's the pattern I see on the Rokario Bandwidth Monitor. First, when the clip first starts, there's a huge burst, normally running about 30megs per second, and normally lasting about five to ten seconds. Then the data stream drops to nothing for several seconds; all of that is relatively normal (the clip is still playing properly since that initial burst collected the first two to three minutes of the clip). But then things go wrong: the next burst, instead of being in the 1 meg to 5 meg range, only climbs to about .2 meg; yep, that's what I said, .2 meg. And that is the regular pattern going forward, for the next minute or two until the clip runs out of buffer and starts to stop and start.

I did one other experiment which may or may not make sense to the heads here: Once the clip started running into trouble (for what it's worth, I used a long standard definition clip, the movie of Lehar's Czardasfurstin with Moffo and Kollo at

»www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· a_VWTW5w , which runs one hour, thirty-five minutes), I switched to my T-Mobile connection, which runs around 20 megs per second download. In seconds, I saw another burst, and the clip resumed playing. This time the pattern was somewhat different and the playback was very stable. Here was the pattern: first there would be about five seconds of zero data, that would be followed by a 1 meg burst lasting about three seconds, two seconds of no data, a three second burst at 5 megs, two seconds of no data, then a three second burst at 1 meg, followed by five seconds of no data, after which the whole pattern would repeat itself.

I watched like this for about 15 minutes without a care in the world; then I didn't touch the Youtube page but disconnected from T-Mobile and switched back to Verizon FIOS. The transition was seamless with no interruption at all. Moreover the pattern REMAINED THE SAME AS WITH T-MOBILE!!! The only difference was that instead of a 5 meg burst, the middle burst became a 10 meg burst.

Intrigued, I then stopped the playback and reloaded the clip.

This time it played perfectly, with the same pattern, 1 meg, 10 meg, 1 meg, pause, 1 meg, 10 meg, 1 meg, pause.

If I didn't know better, I would say that playing it for a few minutes through T-Mobile somehow FIXED the Verizon FIOS problem! That doesn't make much sense.

Alternate explanations: The problem was never with Verizon FIOS; it was with Youtube; and it just happened to fix itself as I switched to T-Mobile. That's why I've been unable to provoke the problem since then on Verizon FIOS. Of course, that doesn't explain why VLC was 1) able to play the clip with an entirely different streaming pattern and 2) play it back perfectly, even as it refused to play properly on the Youtube page.

Thoughts?

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Tue, 18 Mar 2014 20:14:22 EDT

Bytezboy posted : The speeds seem to be back to normal during primetime hours. I loaded 3 1080p streams to test, it never buffered throughout the entire video.
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75/35 Fios, Triple Play Extreme.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:46:13 EDT

norm posted : I generally see transit via Verizon but sometimes I see videos being served via XO or TATA.

E.g. from my house:

r6---sn-ab5e6m7z.googlevideo.com goes through TATA
r17---sn-p5qlsnle.googlevideo.com goes through Verizon

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:03:22 EDT

anon posted :

said by norm:

When I experience YouTube issues anymore, it's going through another provider for transit (Verizon to XO is terrible), or there is an issue in my immediate area. I'm in Pittsburgh, PA. I'm pretty confident my entire area is neglected by Verizon these days.

That's odd as Google purchases transit from Verizon.. If they are sending it via XO that is either an error, or a bad Google decision which negatively impacts customers.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:28:41 EDT

norm posted : When I experience YouTube issues anymore, it's going through another provider for transit (Verizon to XO is terrible), or there is an issue in my immediate area. I'm in Pittsburgh, PA. I'm pretty confident my entire area is neglected by Verizon these days.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:21:43 EDT

anon posted : If you are going through NewYork Google seems to have 80G of Verizon transit/paid peering:


                                                                                   Packets                Pings
 Host                                                                            Loss%   S nt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
..snip..
6. TenGigE0-6-0-4.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET                                             0.3%   33 4   20.5  24.4  16.3 104.2  10.3
    TenGigE0-4-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-6-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-6-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-6-2-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-6-0-5.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-4-0-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-4-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
 7. google-gw.customer.alter.net                                                 57.8%    334   19.2  17.5  14.6  26.4   1.9
 8. 72.14.238.232                                                                 0.9%   3 34   18.0  21.1  15.0  59.1   7.5
 9. 72.14.237.254                                                                 0.0%   3 34   18.4  19.3  15.8  34.0   2.1
10. lga15s35-in-f7.1e100.net                                                      0.0%   3 34   19.1  20.2  16.8  33.2   1.9

While the 7th hop does show loss, it does not follow through so that is a non-issue.

YouTube slowness on FiOS is likely to be one of two issues

1) The content you are looking at is being served by Google from a poorly performing, or capacity constrained server. A more advanced user can identify the server and run several tests to it to confirm.

2) There is congestion at the Google->Verizon network interconnection. These network interfaces are purchased by Google so if there is not enough capacity it is because they let them run hot and have not ordered more in time.

[Blown margins fixed. /sashwa]

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 03 Jan 2014 11:37:37 EDT

rebus9 posted :

said by norm:

Wow, your story. It's almost like they're trying to get people to hate their wired services.

One might think. But my experience at $DAYJOB on a somewhat larger VZ Wireless account (several hundred lines, $30k-40k per month) netted the same poor support experiences as their wireline services.

Forget poor support for a moment. The reason we moved the whole account to AT&T at renewal is their $SALES$ guys put in zero effort to retain the account. Note that AT&T uses GSM while Verizon uses CDMA, so our fleet of VZ iPhones were not compatible with AT&T. We had to buy, provision, and swap out several hundred new devices. Major hassle, labor intensive. But the deal from AT&T was SO much better than Verizon's renewal offer, it was worth the effort and up-front expense of buying all those new iPhones.

Even when our Verizon rep was told they were going to lose the account, but we'd give them one more shot at keeping us, they came back with an insulting offer that wasn't even close to AT&T. Really-- it's like they didn't WANT the account at all.

Based on their attitudes, I'm guessing the sales guys make the big commissions on NEW accounts only, and probably little to nothing on renewals. So where is their incentive to keep a customer? Let the account walk to a competitor, then try to lure it back in 2 years and make a big "new" commission on it.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 03 Jan 2014 11:17:58 EDT

norm posted : Wow, your story. It's almost like they're trying to get people to hate their wired services.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 03 Jan 2014 11:06:01 EDT

rebus9 posted :

said by norm:

Depending on the rep, they'll either tell you it's not Verizon or they'll agree it's Verizon but they won't do anything about it. That includes the reps here on the direct support forum.

The sad part about Verizon is they have some exceptionally talented and empowered router gods-- I've spoken with a couple over the years when an on-site VZ tech has put them on speakerphone-- but they are buried so far out of reach that even their front-line techs can't touch them.

I turned up a business DSL line that was broken from Day One. Spent several 30-60 minute calls with Level I support, no resolution. Verizon tech was dispatched, ruled out any problems in the local plant back to the C/O, then called (if you can believe this) the same support line I'd previously called. Even after identifying himself as a VZ employee, they still gave him the runaround-- made him reboot his VZ-issued laptop several times, power cycle modem, etc. After 45 minutes of hassle, he abruptly hung up on the support tech, dug through his little black book of magic phone numbers, and found one to some place in (if I recall) Boston/Cambridge-- some magic number where he got a highly clued engineer. Problem was diagnosed within minutes, and resolved almost immediately thereafter.

It was incredible how FAST the problem was solved-- within minutes-- after I wasted more than 2 hours, and he wasted 45+ minutes, with clueless front-line techs who were reluctant to escalate to Tier 2.

Makes me wonder if the Tier 1 techs are punished (financially or otherwise) for every call they escalate to Tier 2, because they are VERY reluctant to do it.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 03 Jan 2014 10:20:11 EDT

norm posted :

said by rebus9:

said by norm:

said by Bill Neilson:

I think the only thing more frustrating than the speeds at night is the response from Verizon reps when I call.

My favorite response from Verizon when there's obvious saturation at an ALTER.NET hop is that ALTER.NET is not Verizon so there's nothing that can be done about it.

That's sad if a VZ rep actually told you ALTER.NET is not under Verizon's control.

Depending on the rep, they'll either tell you it's not Verizon or they'll agree it's Verizon but they won't do anything about it. That includes the reps here on the direct support forum.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:06:35 EDT

rebus9 posted :

said by norm:

said by Bill Neilson:

I think the only thing more frustrating than the speeds at night is the response from Verizon reps when I call.

My favorite response from Verizon when there's obvious saturation at an ALTER.NET hop is that ALTER.NET is not Verizon so there's nothing that can be done about it.

That's sad if a VZ rep actually told you ALTER.NET is not under Verizon's control.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:32:37 EDT

norm posted :

said by Bill Neilson:

I think the only thing more frustrating than the speeds at night is the response from Verizon reps when I call.

My favorite response from Verizon when there's obvious saturation at an ALTER.NET hop is that ALTER.NET is not Verizon so there's nothing that can be done about it. Meanwhile, I'm regularly seeing peering issues between Verizon and other tier 1 providers like Level 3. It's somehow never Verizon's fault though...

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:21:38 EDT

Bill Neilson posted : I think the only thing more frustrating than the speeds at night is the response from Verizon reps when I call.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 02 Jan 2014 09:41:45 EDT

norm posted :

said by Bill Neilson:

Recently moved back to DC. Got FiOS and was quite excited about it. Have the 50/25 plan.

I am rather floored at how poor the service has gotten from a few years ago when I had it here.

At night, I struggle to watch basic streaming sites like Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, etc.....

Very disappointed and have tried multiple switches..new router, etc

As you can see from all of the pages of comments, it's terrible. Verizon's peering is garbage anymore. Er, I'm sorry, everyone else's peering is garbage. Let me point my finger at everyone else now.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 02 Jan 2014 08:53:47 EDT

Bill Neilson posted : Recently moved back to DC. Got FiOS and was quite excited about it. Have the 50/25 plan.

I am rather floored at how poor the service has gotten from a few years ago when I had it here.

At night, I struggle to watch basic streaming sites like Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, etc.....

Very disappointed and have tried multiple switches..new router, etc

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:09:15 EDT

criggs posted :

said by batsona:

Its interesting that pasting that link right into the browser results in better performance.

Fascinating! That might be useful to know again for the future.

said by batsona:

I've got that Download Helper on my system - i'll try this method...

The next time you have problems, let us know if it helps; thanks!

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:07:02 EDT

batsona posted : I read an outdated research paper that these college kids did, on how YouTube distributes its watchable content, and what methods / algorithms are in use for selecting & viewing that content. It was so complex I couldn't really follow it. Its interesting that pasting that link right into the browser results in better performance. I've got that Download Helper on my system - i'll try this method...

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 05 Dec 2013 00:21:39 EDT

criggs posted : How about stripping the Youtube packaging?

Here's what I'm getting at: there is software that can drill down and find out the direct link for a video clip, without having to load up all the Youtube folderol. For example, for Firefox, the name of that software is Download Helper.

Let's take a look at a high-quality Youtube HD clip. I chose the Glacier National Park by veeerzes, because it has full 1080 HD which results in a very high definition picture (though the compression is visible at times in the form of occasional blocky artifacts). The video is located at

»www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· 8LxVwwk0 . After I start the playback, I open the Settings options in the lower right-hand corner of the video frame and select 1080 HD.

Once the stream has switched over to 1080 HD, I take a look at my real-time Bandwidth Meter. It shows streaming that occurs in pulses, not a constant feed. These pulses normally run at about 30,000 kbps or 30 mbps (I'm on the 50/25 tier). Someone earlier in this thread termed this D-A-S-H playback, I believe. Despite the constant interruptions of the stream as a result of this behavior, the clip plays smoothly without interruption or buffering (I'm in Manhattan, zip 10022, in case the Verizon FIOS/Youtube problem varies depending on location).

Now I take a look at the Download Helper to see the direct link for the 1080 version of the clip. The direct link for the 1080 version is located at »r4---sn-8xgp1vo-xfgz.goo ··· CFAC5CA1 .

So I close the tab playing the clip through Youtube, open a new tab, and paste the link above instead.

THIS time, the clip plays with a solid unbroken stream, running again at an average of 30 mbps (which means the entire clip will probably be downloaded long before the clip has finished playing). And again, there are no problems, no buffering, no interruptions, no instability, just very fast and constant playback. After playing for two minutes, I can see from the progress bar at the bottom that over half of the clip has now been loaded.

Here's what I'm thinking: Might this be another way to bypass the occasional Youtube/Verizon problems?

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Wed, 04 Dec 2013 21:22:55 EDT

norm posted : Definitely can't get a single video to play. I'm seeing packet loss to Level3, XO, and Above.Net. Absolutely nothing is working this evening...

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:23:25 EDT

norm posted :

said by Chris123NT:

And youtube is completely unwatchable for me tonight. Awesome.

»i.imgur.com/tZh7s9X.png

Verizon in yellow.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:13:16 EDT

Chris123NT posted : And youtube is completely unwatchable for me tonight. Awesome.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Sat, 09 Nov 2013 13:36:54 EDT

banshee posted : I think it's location, I live in upstate N.Y. and never had a problem with YouTube or Netflix.. I'm on these two everyday and Netflix almost every night..

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Sat, 09 Nov 2013 12:57:13 EDT

rebus9 posted : I'm wondering if Verizon has been shifting their peering traffic with YouTube around to different POPs, rather than adding capacity to fix the problem. That would help explain why the problems seem to come and go. From a traffic engineering standpoint, it's trivial to shift inbound YouTube traffic to whatever links Verizon wants to receive it on.

The one thing I know for sure is, anytime I want to watch YouTube at night, I have to switch over to my Brighthouse RR connection. It's not useable on FIOS.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 08 Nov 2013 22:56:45 EDT

McBane posted : Mine has actually been getting kinda crappy again during peak hours :( Not as bad as before where it was completely unusable, but a lot of buffering recently.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Fri, 08 Nov 2013 00:57:33 EDT

criggs posted : Well, I took the plunge and went with Verizon FIOS; installation on the 14th. I thought about Road Runner Time Warner since they're also in my building. But Road Runner only has a 2 megabyte upload speed and I've already got better than that with Sprint LTE, and I'm always uploading stuff to my ftp site, so that was a deal-killer. If worse comes to worse, this proxy app looks like it might be the solution for Youtube if FIOS starts misbehaving.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 07 Nov 2013 22:47:29 EDT

rebus9 posted :

said by Optimus2357:

Sorry to bring up a old post, but is this issue still occuring? The same issue (low Youtube throughput fixed by proxy/VPN) is effecting us customers on Cox currently, and notice there hasn't been a post on this forum for abouth a month. If the problem was fixed, what was the fix?

Not for me (Tampa Bay area). Speedtest results are solidly in fluff territory at the same time I can't get a YouTube video to play more than 5 seconds without pausing to buffer.

I have both FIOS and Road Runner, so my solution at night is to reach YouTube via RR.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:19:47 EDT

criggs posted :

said by norm:

Instead of a VPN, I suggest some sort of plugin like the following:
»chrome.google.com/websto ··· kafaabdp

I took a look, and it certainly seems to have been designed specifically for this problem; interesting. So, if I go with Verizon FIOS, and start experiencing a Youtube problem, I'll definitely give this a whirl before going the VPN route.

A reminder, however, that I'm still looking for feedback on Time Warner Cable Internet versus Verizon FIOS Internet, for anyone who's used the former; thanks!

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Sun, 03 Nov 2013 14:46:52 EDT

criggs posted : I can see that I may need some education in a hurry. Maybe I should think twice before going with Verizon FIOS. Time Warner Cable is also available in my building. What do you folks think of their Internet service? What are their official speeds, tiers and so on? And their reliability?

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Sun, 03 Nov 2013 12:29:09 EDT

norm posted :

said by criggs:

said by norm:

In regards to the VPN, assuming the route to your VPN and the route from the VPN to YouTube is fine, then yes.

I've seen a few recommendations. Do you have a VPN you recommend?

I do not, sorry. It's a bit like playing roulette with Verizon as it seems like every day they're having a problem with some other network. Instead of a VPN, I suggest some sort of plugin like the following:

»chrome.google.com/websto ··· kafaabdp

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Sat, 02 Nov 2013 23:03:22 EDT

criggs posted :

said by norm:

In regards to the VPN, assuming the route to your VPN and the route from the VPN to YouTube is fine, then yes.

I've seen a few recommendations. Do you have a VPN you recommend?

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Sat, 02 Nov 2013 21:18:20 EDT

norm posted : The IP block I have seen zero improvement with. Sometimes it works, sometimes it makes a ton of videos unavailable. In regards to the VPN, assuming the route to your VPN and the route from the VPN to YouTube is fine, then yes.

»i.imgur.com/20HJ83v.png (from »www.youtube.com/my_speed)

Please see above. We have Comcast and FiOS in my market. I am a FiOS customer.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:21:34 EDT

criggs posted : One participant in this thread suggested that there are some google throttling servers whose IP's can be blocked, if requested, by one's firewall.

In addition, I've read a few remarks to the effect that going through a VPN can also correct the problem. Thoughts?

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:01:32 EDT

norm posted :

said by criggs:

Darn! Where are you?

Vamp is in MD, I'm in PA. Same issues.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:01:26 EDT

criggs posted : Darn! Where are you?

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Sat, 02 Nov 2013 12:25:33 EDT

Vamp posted : Back to intermittently(and consistently) not working again the past week, during peak times can't even watch low res.
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75/35 FIOS || MSN Msgr: scott001^gmail_com

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 31 Oct 2013 05:43:24 EDT

criggs posted :

said by cchhat01:

unless you are in a tall apartment complex with everyone subscribed to fios, you should be good to go atleast from a speed perspective.

Um, uh-oh. I'm afraid that's exactly my situation. About a year ago, FIOS camped out in my apartment building skyscraper, offering a fabulous deal for anyone who would switch from Time Warner Cable, and a huge portion of the tenants did exactly that, including yours truly. Time Warner Cable is still in the building, but I would guess the vast majority of us took the offer. I'll just hope for the best. At this point, I just have to hope that my current Sprint MVNO continues to be available, but the ground under that market is shifting on a daily basis, so mass dislocations seem to be imminent.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 31 Oct 2013 01:54:53 EDT

cchhat01 posted : Those are a lot of constraints. You do realize that even if things work well at the beginning, it doesnt mean they won't take a turn for the worse. Peering can change.
Netflix wasn't available in superhd on fios up until the last month or so. It only became available because netflix decided to make suoerhd available to all US ISPs.
Youtube is similarly peered so that video flows through the least congested or peered route.
One thing is for sure, unless you are in a tall apartment complex with everyone subscribed to fios, you should be good to go atleast from a speed perspective. Fios speeds are consistent. So you can consider that i and t dotted and crossed, respectively.
I wouldnt think too much about peering, most sites are fine. Just sign up and relax.
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"Look at me, I'm Dr. Zoidberg, homeowner."

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 31 Oct 2013 01:09:48 EDT

criggs posted : Interesting; my situation is the opposite. I have FIOS TV but not their Internet. I'm guessing I'd wind up with the FIOS router therefore. I wonder how much of a difference that will make. As long as I'm getting 50/25, and as long as there are no domains where I'd be screwed by messed-up peering arrangements or NO peering arrangements, and as long as I'm not running the risk of getting jammed by some routing dispute between, for example, Level 3 and whoever it was (some years ago, may have been before your time), I'd be happy.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 31 Oct 2013 00:54:07 EDT

cchhat01 posted :

said by criggs:

FAB!!! How long have you been on the service?

Also are you getting what you're promised? If you run a speedtest through speedtest.net, are you getting the proper 50 megs per second download, 25 megs per second upload?

My 50/25 is provisioned with "fluff" added in so I'm actually seeing 58/38 all day long.
I don't use their fios router though. Ive got fios inet only and use my own router. Speeds are always consistent. Always.

Again. Knock-on-wood.
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"Look at me, I'm Dr. Zoidberg, homeowner."

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 31 Oct 2013 00:48:48 EDT

criggs posted : FAB!!! How long have you been on the service?

Also are you getting what you're promised? If you run a speedtest through speedtest.net, are you getting the proper 50 megs per second download, 25 megs per second upload?

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Thu, 31 Oct 2013 00:32:25 EDT

cchhat01 posted :

said by criggs:

The reports adduced in this thread concerning Youtube concern me greatly however, since I do A LOT of HD Youtube viewing. I looked through several of the comments in this thread and came up empty in terms of postings in the last month or so from NYC residents. So are there are any NYC residents out there reading this thread who can tell me whether they're also having these Youtube problems on Verizon FIOS Internet?

Its your lucky day. I happen to be browsing today, i am in nyc and i happen to be on the same 50/25 fios tier that you're interested in.
I dont have any issues with youtube whatsoever (knock on wood).
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"Look at me, I'm Dr. Zoidberg, homeowner."

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Wed, 30 Oct 2013 01:11:36 EDT

criggs posted : I'm a wireless Internet user, with Sprint through one of their MVNO's (Wireless 'n' WiFi). Recently another Sprint MVNO, Millenicom, unexpectedly terminated their arrangement with Sprint in the last few days. And I'm thinking that Sprint may start taking a second look at their arrangements with ALL of their MVNO's.

So, in an abundance of caution, I figured I should start collecting in my back pocket non-wireless Internet providers, just in case I need to do what I've always hated the thought of doing, and that is subscribe to TWO providers, one for the home and one for the road.

And, for that potential home provider, the first candidate I'm considering is Verizon FIOS, since I already have their TV service. I'm in New York City, zip 10022.

The reports adduced in this thread concerning Youtube concern me greatly however, since I do A LOT of HD Youtube viewing. I looked through several of the comments in this thread and came up empty in terms of postings in the last month or so from NYC residents. So are there are any NYC residents out there reading this thread who can tell me whether they're also having these Youtube problems on Verizon FIOS Internet?

And, just to dot my i's and cross my t's, I'm leaning toward getting the 50/25 tier.

Thanks in advance for any guidance and/or feedback; it will be much appreciated!

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Wed, 30 Oct 2013 00:20:18 EDT

Jmartz0 posted : Youtube sucks on Optimum too...

There are nights that videos wont play on my 101/50 Optimum connection. It's not just FIOS... and forget about trying to watch videos on my phone. I am lucky if the advertisement that plays before the videos load.

They need to fix whatever is broken over there!!!

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Tue, 29 Oct 2013 23:24:21 EDT

norm posted : NBC and Comcast are the same company so I'm not sure why you expect NBC to work on a Verizon network.

»i.imgur.com/xF7WCEL.png

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:29:10 EDT

Ancalagon posted : I'm having the same problem. Can't stream Youtube, can't stream The Voice on NBC, etc. Speed test show I'm getting well over my 50/25.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:57:40 EDT

shof515 posted : sorry for the bump, for the past week my youtube issue is now starting to re-occur. i no longer upload anything or watch any videos :(

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Mon, 21 Oct 2013 22:19:25 EDT

norm posted : I just checked my phone, which is on wifi, and it's _trying_ to update some stuff from the play store and everything is stuck at 0%.

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Mon, 21 Oct 2013 22:09:50 EDT

Full777Metal6 posted : having the same issue on my 150mbps line, most videos wont even load. This is getting ridiculous...

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Mon, 21 Oct 2013 21:19:43 EDT

norm posted : I have been seeing weird issues where random videos won't even try to buffer - all being served from XO. Proxy and Comcast work fine. I wonder if we're back to this issue again...

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

Tue, 15 Oct 2013 15:53:25 EDT

batsona posted : For what it's worth, I've blocked access to the following networks, and I seem to have OK performance:

173.194.55.0 /24
206.111.0.0 /16