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Multiple routers - same networkI have just moved. I now have ATT DSL. The provided me with a dsl modem/router. I also added 2 more routers via hard lines. However I am having some trouble with the wireless. I am almost positive it is my settings. I read around the internet and most sites agree that using the same SSID, password and channel is the way to set everything up. My main router and two additional routers all have seperate IP addesses. What am I doing wrong? |
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Here is a FAQ that explains this... » Wireless Networking Forum FAQ » Using a Wireless Router as an Access PointUse different channels, same SSID and encryption type/key (password)... |
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ok i changed channel...3,5,7. i have same ssid, now connection is not working at all. |
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 John Galt6Forward, March
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Try 1, 6, 11... |
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when i changed the channels all to channel 11..then the wireless began working again.
i have a felling i will still be getting dropend connections
i dont know if this makes a difference but all 3 are running different rates...one is 54, the other 72, and finally 144. |
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Just putting the devices on the same wireless service set and security settings won't work by itself no matter what channels you put them on. You're doing part of what's necessary but not the other parts. To get them to bridge the primary network, you have to put the devices in access point mode, as opposed router mode, either via presets (if they have such presets) or by changing the right settings to the right values manually, and you have to establish the cable connections in a specific way too. See here » Wireless Networking Forum FAQ » Using a Wireless Router as an Access Point as given above. |
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i put the secondary routers to have no dhcp |
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John Galt6Forward, March
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said by grendel54:when i changed the channels all to channel 11..then the wireless began working again. Put them on different channels... |
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i used 1,6,11 it seems to be working...we will see what happens in the next couple of days. is there anyway to see what access point im using since all have the same ssid? |
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 natedjElected
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Might want to run » www.metageek.net/product ··· nssider/ to get an idea of what other signals are in the area and what channel they're on. |
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ya ive run iinsider...not getting much interference. I am using th whole band on channels though...only 2 or 3 from neighbors. im still having trouble with the wireless...it works but very slow at times. ping timeouts sometimes. |
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natedjElected
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Are you wired connections fine? Is it just you wireless connections that's acting up? |
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yes |
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 billaustinthey call me Mr. Bill
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Try setting all three of them to use 802.11 b/g mixed mode (54mbps). Use the same security setup, SSID, and password on each unit. Use a different channel on each unit, pick from 1, 6, and 11. Scan the area around each unit with InSSIDer, and assign the channel that is least likely to receive outside interference. Don't use the same channel on any of the units, unless they are far enough apart that they won't interfere with each other. InSSIDer is a great tool, take advantage of it. |
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» www.speedtest.net/my-res ··· 43936486Wireless connection next to main router...other routers seem to be giving me the probs |
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ive checked the channels...im pretty good on what they are set at...i believe, although i am not certain...the two satelite routers are the ones giving me the problems...i seem to be able to connect to wireless near the main router but nowhere else. |
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Sorry for all the confusion...apparently my brother when he ran the hardline used 2 pairs (?) basically he used one cat6 cable to run two seperate lines. The line was split, one into a set top box and the other into the router. I simply swapped out the two lines and the router is now working. It makes me wonder about this split connection though...does it really work? |
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join:2003-08-01
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Fraoch
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2013-Sep-25 4:11 pm
said by grendel54:Sorry for all the confusion...apparently my brother when he ran the hardline used 2 pairs (?) basically he used one cat6 cable to run two seperate lines. The line was split, one into a set top box and the other into the router. I simply swapped out the two lines and the router is now working. It makes me wonder about this split connection though...does it really work? Split how? The only viable way to "split" ethernet is through a switch. 1 in, 2 (or more) out. If it was done any other way you may have problems. |
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not sure how he did it...he works for at&t. he said bothe ends are split to two different lines. wireless still not working properly  |
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billaustinthey call me Mr. Bill
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said by grendel54:Sorry for all the confusion...apparently my brother when he ran the hardline used 2 pairs (?) basically he used one cat6 cable to run two seperate lines. The line was split, one into a set top box and the other into the router. I simply swapped out the two lines and the router is now working. It makes me wonder about this split connection though...does it really work? This can work, but is not recommended. Usually, the best thing to do would be to correctly terminate the cable ends and add switches to connect the multiple devices. Pictures would help. What is each split on each end of the cable connected to? How long is the cable run? |
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Here is what it looks like... cable run is probably 75-100ft Well I found out why I was having some problems... 1. I was using the same IP as a Router my cousin had setup in my grandfather's room. I changed the SSID on that router and made it a part of the whole network. 2. My router was set to DHCP on and the other router was trying to use it as the DHCP...rookie mistake. I swear I turned it off. Anyhow everythign is working now Crossing my fingers. I have 3 routers...two setup as "access points" (they are routers with DHCP turned off acting as a switch and a wireless gateway. All 3 routers are on one SSID but 3 different channels...1,5,& 11. I would really like to maximize my connection...are their any other settings that I can change to help my network have a more stable faster connection? |
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billaustinthey call me Mr. Bill
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said by grendel54:I have 3 routers...two setup as "access points" (they are routers with DHCP turned off acting as a switch and a wireless gateway.
All 3 routers are on one SSID but 3 different channels...1,5,& 11. I would really like to maximize my connection...are their any other settings that I can change to help my network have a more stable faster connection? The only other thing to do would be to survey the area around each AP using InSSIDer and confirm the channel it is set to is the one with the least amount of outside interference. Also, since you are using all the channel space, keep your wireless speed at 150mb or below (single channel use). If you try to run 300mb wireless (dual channel use), your AP's may interfere with each other. |
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said by grendel54:Here is what it looks like...
cable run is probably 75-100ft I'm assuming the other end of the cable run looks similar. He split the pairs and used one cable run to provide two ethernet connections. It is cheaper to do, and will work, but it would be better to use a switch at each end to connect the devices. |
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said by grendel54:All 3 routers are on one SSID but 3 different channels...1,5,& 11. I would really like to maximize my connection...are their any other settings that I can change to help my network have a more stable faster connection? Why are you using channel 5? As you see from the graphic John Galt posted, the channel spread comes quite close to the spread from channel 1 at 20 MHz - if you're using 40 MHz channels it'll definitely interfere. Use channel 6 if you can - it won't interfere with channels 1 and 11. |
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bill,
currently running only single band.
im not sure what the other end looks like. It is in the attic. I know their are two lines coming down from the attic and i am assuming it looks the same as the pic i took.
my next (networking) project is to run another cat5 through the attic to my grandfathers room eliminating the AC wiring Plug Link. Once I am up there I can see what it looks like.
fraoch,
i will change it to 6.
thanks everyone for the help. |
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