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Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Thu, 28 Nov 2013 11:45:59 EDT

bluepoint posted : Well done! Good to know it worked. ;)

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Thu, 28 Nov 2013 07:51:28 EDT

Gunni posted : Well, I received and installed my new router and the result has been improved speed throughout the house, even in the basement. Pages open just about instantly in the Laptop web browsers and the signal in the basement has increased appreciably.

Yes, I could have done it more cheaply, but I could also have done it more expensively as I was considering connecting an Apple Extreme Base Station to the old Actiontec and the AEBS is $200.

The advantages of the new Actiontec is that I am totally familiar with the web-based software and so don't have to learn my way around a new router's software and, FWIW, I can still call on Verizon support should I run into a problem I cannot solve.

Here are the results of some of my speed tests, done using the Verizon speed test. The router was installed on 27 November, and you can see the speed increase for yourselves:

TOP FLOOR:
24 Nov 1200H 21.85 DOWN & 20.97 UP.
24 Nov 1633H 22.87 DOWN & 19.81 UP. LATENCY 15MS

27NOV 1213H 42.81 DOWN & 38.96 UP. LATENCY 15MS - AUTO
27NOV 1232H 58.15 DOWN & 38.92 UP. LATENCY 15MS - CH6

WIFE’S TOP FLOOR OFFICE; A ROOM AWAY:
24 Nov 1200H 25.98 DOWN & 11.93 UP LATENCY 15MS
27NOV 1210H 38.31 DOWN & 37.69 UP LATENCY 12MS

KITCHEN
24 Nov 1200H 15.23 DOWN & 10.37 UP LATENCY 13MS
24 Nov 1525H 21.52 DOWN & 19.23 UP LATENCY 15MS
24 Nov 1810H 14.05 DOWN & 11.49 UP LATENCY 17MS
24 Nov 2109H 24.31DOWN & 17.74 UP LATENCY 15MS; CH 3
25 Nov 0615H 10,56 DOWN & 16.62 UP LATENCY 13MS; CH 3
25 Nov 2106H 22.53 DOWN & 11.99 UP LATENCY 18MS; CH 3

27NOV 1205H 39.37 DOWN & 31.21 UP LATENCY 15MS CH 6
28NOV 0710H 31.43 DOWN & 36.49 UP LATENCY 15MS CH 11

BASEMENT
24 Nov 1200H 16.23 DOWN & 11.97 UP LATENCY 15MS
24 Nov 1644H 12.14 DOWN & 12.36 UP, LATENCY 15MSS
24 Nov 1803H 07.72 DOWN & 03.42 UP LATENCY 14MS
24 Nov 2052H 06.71 DOWN & 11.46 UP LATENCY 15MS; CH6
24Nov 2056H 07.97 DOWN & 05.65 UP LATENCY 15MS; CH 11
24Nov 2100H 20.88 DOWN & 05.51 UP LATENCY 15MS; CH 1
24Nov 2102H 21.42 DOWN & 11.31 UP LATENCY 15MS; CH 3

27NOV 1841H 33.64 DOWN & 34.64 UP LATENCY 15MS; CH 6
27NOV 2019H 37.22 DOWN & 38.81 UP LATENCY 14MS; CH 6

A final thanks to all who chimed in with suggestions throughout this thread.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Tue, 26 Nov 2013 06:18:49 EDT

Gunni posted : Thanks, guys.

I will contact Verizon and find out what their return policy is: i.e., can I open it and try it out and then return it if the results are disappointing or must I return it, assuming it comes in some kind of clamshell package, in its virgin state in order for them to credit my bill.

It's due this week and I will continue this thread then.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Tue, 26 Nov 2013 00:39:32 EDT

anon posted : Almost all 802.11n dual band routers being sold through retail (Staples, Best Buy, Amazon, etc) cost less than what Verizon is trying to sell this single band router for. Vz actually raised the price by $20 on this router prior to their promotion... my guess is that they are trying to clear stock before introducing a dual band 802.11n or an 802.11ac router, but had the gall to jack the price up for this outdated router as part of the promotion. I went with a Netgear dual band router that has since been discontinued, but have also read good things about Asus, Linksys, etc.

Also, it was totally plug and play... the Netgear router adjusted it's IP addressees accordingly to frontend the Vz router, so I didn't have to go through any of the IP config changes that are said to be required in the Vz FAQ's. Of course I had to configure my devices to connect to the new router and I turned off Wi-Fi connectivity on the VZ router, but it was pretty straight forward.

You may end up being happy with just having the 2.4Ghz band, but I just think it's a rip off for what they are charging, especially if you have devices that can automatically change from 2.4Ghz to 5Ghz when in range.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:17:21 EDT

bluepoint posted : Wow, I thought you knew that. There were lots of discussions in this forum about that, you didn't see that? I assumed you knew it that your plan is to buy a dual band router if the wireless in Actiontec is not enough. Sorry, I should have told you and not let my assumption prevailed.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:16:49 EDT

anon posted : I did some research on this when Verizon started promoting their latest and greatest 802.11n router, and found out that it is not a dual band router... it only supports the 2.4Ghz 802.11n band. Upon further research, I found out that I could buy a dual band 5.0/2.4Ghz for half the price of Verizon's single band 2.4Ghz 802.11n router, which I purchase a connected it to my older Verizon router.

Wireless throughput and range have dramatically increased on the 2.4Ghz 802.11n band, compared to what my older Verizon 802.11g router was providing. The 5Ghz range is somewhat limited, but has even better throughput when in range. For devices (like a MacBook) that you can prioritize wireless networks, you can set it up to connected to the 5.0Ghz band when in range, but to automatically switch to the 2.4Ghz band when your not.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 25 Nov 2013 21:29:10 EDT

Gunni posted : Well, damn! I certainly wish someone had mentioned this before I ordered the new modem from Verizon.

I guess I could go through the annoyance of trying to send it back and, if I do, may I ask what dual-band 5.0/2.4GHz router did you find for half the price of the one Verizon is sending me??

What a bloody disappointment.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 25 Nov 2013 19:07:07 EDT

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:41:12 EDT

Gunni posted : Thanks so much. Ordered the new Actiontec this a.m. and I will report back to this thread on my progress.

Using the Verizon site to test my speeds today, around noon, here's what I got:

TOP FLOOR VERIZON SPEED TEST
24 Nov 1200H 21.85 DOWN & 20.97 UP.

WIFE'S OFFICE, TOP FLOOR
24 Nov 1200H 25.98 DOWN & 11.93 UP LATENCY 15MS

KITCHEN, ONE FLOOR DOWN FROM ROUTER
24 Nov 1200H 15.23 DOWN & 10.37 UP LATENCY13MS

BASEMENT, TWO FLOORS DOWN FROM ROUTER
24 Nov 1200H 16.23 DOWN & 11.97 UP LATENCY 15MS

Let's see what the new Actiontec delivers out of the box.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:35:48 EDT

bluepoint posted :

said by Gunni:

Hi Bluepoint,

1. Buy the latest router from Verizon and see what my speeds are throughout the house, and especially in the basement.

Sounds like a good plan.

said by Gunni:

2. I have never had a dual-band router before so i am presuming that I can assign different devices to different bands.

Correct, just make sure the dual band router can be used simultaneously. There are brands that are single band at a time.

said by Gunni:

3. Since I have learned that signal strength (do I have this right?) on the 5 GHz band is one-half that on the 2.4 GHz band, I will assign the MacBook on the same floor as the router to the 5 GHz band and will experiment to see which band works with another MacBook one floor down.

True, the 5GHz band has a shorter range than the other wifi band but it's a clean frequency. If your house structure is not much of a hindrance your wireless client one floor down will be just fine. Your plan is a good one.

said by Gunni:

4. I will assign the 2.4 GHz band to the AppleTV in the basement and see what signal strength/speeds I get.

Sounds good.

said by Gunni:

5. If the performance in the basement does not improve, then I will experiment with a pair of power line network adapters. (There is an excellent computer store nearby to which you can return anything you buy so long as you save the original packaging and return it within 30 days). If the adapters work to my satisfaction, then I'll move the old Actiontec router to the basemen and set it up as an access point so I can use my iPad there too.

Sound like a plan? Do i have everything straight?

Many thanks for all your input and help.

Yes, all your plans will work and it's a good one. :) Good luck and please update us on your progress.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 24 Nov 2013 08:37:06 EDT

Gunni posted : Hi Bluepoint,

May I impose on you once more for a comment on my plan of action.

1. Buy the latest router from Verizon and see what my speeds are throughout the house, and especially in the basement.

2. I have never had a dual-band router before so i am presuming that I can assign different devices to different bands.

3. Since I have learned that signal strength (do I have this right?) on the 5 GHz band is one-half that on the 2.4 GHz band, I will assign the MacBook on the same floor as the router to the 5 GHz band and will experiment to see which band works with another MacBook one floor down.

4. I will assign the 2.4 GHz band to the AppleTV in the basement and see what signal strength/speeds I get.

5. If the performance in the basement does not improve, then I will experiment with a pair of power line network adapters. (There is an excellent computer store nearby to which you can return anything you buy so long as you save the original packaging and return it within 30 days). If the adapters work to my satisfaction, then I'll move the old Actiontec router to the basemen and set it up as an access point so I can use my iPad there too.

Sound like a plan? Do i have everything straight?

Many thanks for all your input and help.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:05:31 EDT

bluepoint posted : Yes, you can just follow the instructions in the Verizon FAQ how to make the Actiontec to be an Access Point. Take note, you will be limited to 20-25Mbps since the old router is "G" rated which I think is about the speed you're getting right now? If you were getting a REV. I, try if the wireless is strong enough for downstairs, you never know.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sat, 23 Nov 2013 21:59:12 EDT

Gunni posted : This question will probably reveal how much I do not understand about routers, but I'll risk asking it anyway.

In addition to the AppleTV three floors away, I sometimes take my iPad down to that floor and stream Netflix movies to it while riding a stationary bicycle.

If i purchased the latest Actiontec router and also purchased a pair of high-speed power line ethernet adapters, is it possible to move my old Actiontnec router to the basement and hook it up via ethernet cable to the power line adapter there, using it as a WiFi point to broadcast to my AppleTV and iPad on the same floor??

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:51:24 EDT

bluepoint posted : Okay, was just wondering why a tool that can help you monitor wireless around you is being ignored . It will not tweak your wireless or make changes, instead, it will give you idea what's going on around you. But it's fine if that's what you wanted. ;)

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:25:39 EDT

criggs posted :

said by bluepoint:

If I may ask you, what is your concern installing inSSIDer that you haven't tried it up to now? :hmm: It doesn't bite! :D

Oh, I don't know; for once I would like to configure my Internet so it just works. I'm sort of hoping that if I just stay on Channel 11 from now on, and reboot only if the speed seems off, I won't need to do anything else from now on. We shall see.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:01:27 EDT

bluepoint posted :

said by criggs:

So before driving myself crazy with playing another game of hunt-the-channel, and grumbling to myself that I really, really have to get inSSIDer, I decided simply to reboot the router.

If I may ask you, what is your concern installing inSSIDer that you haven't tried it up to now? :hmm: It doesn't bite! :D

Re: [Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:53:04 EDT

criggs posted : That sucks. A 75/35 tier doesn't justify the new router??? That's ridiculous. And my 50/25 installation VOLUNTEERED it for me. Absurd inconsistency.

I'm thinking the secret may be the wireless. In my case, I specifically told the engineers, during the installation process, that I would ONLY be using the WiFi, and asked whether I'd get the 50/25 performance on my router. Those seemed to be the magic words, if that's of any help.

Re: [Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:12:43 EDT

denary posted : I agree with you on this. Just came into this thread while doing some research on wireless. I upgraded to 75/35 a while ago and still have original router. I contact Verizon via chat and was shot down. I was offered to pay $99 for the newer router. I was told that with a new 75/35 service request, I would not get the Wireless N router.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 18 Nov 2013 11:17:56 EDT

criggs posted :

said by criggs:

On Friday I changed from Auto to Channel...6, which immediately boosted the speed ABOVE the Ethernet minimums, 60/30!...Sunday I found myself in the 20s on both sides. So I had to hunt for a new channel; I found that 11 was fine. But that teaches me that I have to keep an eye on it, probably on a daily basis, as conditions can change.

I'm learning that this is not an exact science. It's not just the channels that are a variable.

This morning I was barely making 20:

[att=1]

So before driving myself crazy with playing another game of hunt-the-channel, and grumbling to myself that I really, really have to get inSSIDer, I decided simply to reboot the router.

And it worked!

[att=2]

Which means that channel 11 may actually be okay for me most of the time; so I may not need inSSIDer; we shall see.

Minutes after that, I spotted some low-level swishing/hiss/static in one of my entertainment speakers which was occurring in sync with activity on the router. So I moved the router about a foot away, which fixed it. Just for grins, I ran another test to make sure moving it hadn't slightly affected the performance:

[att=3]

And I moved the dang thing twelve inches. TWELVE INCHES.

You know, it's like I'm living back in the 80s trying to get good reception on my FM tuner, and moving any cable or electronic object is altering the picture. Back to the future.

Re: [Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Mon, 18 Nov 2013 00:50:07 EDT

Robotek posted : your router may need replacing, it'll be the technician's discretion to decide wether or not to replace it since Verizon does not guarantee Wifi speeds. It usually depends on what the signal has to go through (lead paint in the walls, metal, mirrors, TV screens etc. all cause loss in signal. try the android app "Wifi Analyzer »play.google.com/store/ap ··· er&hl=en

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 21:57:39 EDT

bluepoint posted : I don't know speedtest.net is flash based. Does MACs use flash? :)
Ooops I guess it does since speakeasy is.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 21:54:09 EDT

Gunni posted : I got wildly different results from Speedtest.net site.

My wired iMac got 57.95Mbps d/l and 38.91 u/l.

The MacBook air, right next to it got 4.53Mbps d/l and 22.26 u/l.

Then I immediately switched to the Speakeasy site, this time picking a server in NYC and got 25.54Mbps d/l and 19.98 u/l.

Which one does one trust to be accurate??? Who knows?

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 21:45:11 EDT

bluepoint posted :

said by Gunni:

inSSIDer at the Apple Apps store is $5.

I saw you were using istumbler for your MAC, do you have inSSIDer apps too?

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 21:43:49 EDT

bluepoint posted :

said by Gunni:

OK, took the readings late this afternoon to 2100H this evening.

Those are pretty good results even in the basement. You can also try speedtest from »www.speedtest.net there are extra servers that you could test from.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 21:38:42 EDT

bluepoint posted :

said by criggs:

If I find that Channel 11 starts giving me problems, the way Channel 6 did today, then it will definitely be worth my while to use that, thank you.

You are welcome, just a note, when inSSIDer is up, do not run speedtest on the same laptop or close inSSIDer first before running speedtest. Otherwise, your results will be slow. :D

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 21:18:24 EDT

Gunni posted : OK, took the readings late this afternoon to 2100H this evening.

I used www.speakeasy.com and a Washington, DC server (I live a mile outside DC) and this time took my MacBook Air from floor to floor to take the readings.

The channel was #6.

The formula is Time/Download Speed/Upload speed in Mbps

Top Floor: 1735/26.30/21.02
Basement: 1735/21.38/14.83

Top Floor: 1825/25.87/9.05
Basement: 1825/19.78/13.25

Top Floor: 1945/24.99/16.68
Basement: 1945/27.12/13.54

Top Floor: 2100/24.30/20.11
Basement: 2100/13.98/12.26

So, whatever interference I was getting several nights in a row seems to have disappeared. Will continue to check and post the results here.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 20:11:44 EDT

Gunni posted : Just FYI - The free inSSIDer, which you can d/l from the link you sent is for PCs and I am running a Mac.

inSSIDer at the Apple Apps store is $5.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 18:06:22 EDT

criggs posted :

said by bluepoint:

Install the free inSSIDer since you are using windows to aid you in deciding the best channel for your environment. It will show you all your neighbor's channels and signal strengths + more.
»www.metageek.net/product ··· nssider/

Thank you muchly; looks very promising. If I find that Channel 11 starts giving me problems, the way Channel 6 did today, then it will definitely be worth my while to use that, thank you.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:27:59 EDT

dfwguy posted :

said by Gunni:

Is the ONT anywhere near the location where the old cable enters the house? If so, you could split the coax coming from the ONT, with one leg connecting to the existing run up to the attic/third floor, and the other leg running into the basement. You could then use MoCA in the basement.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:10:41 EDT

bluepoint posted : Install the free inSSIDer since you are using windows to aid you in deciding the best channel for your environment. It will show you all your neighbor's channels and signal strengths + more.
»www.metageek.net/product ··· nssider/

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:03:36 EDT

criggs posted : Ah, missed that, sorry. I thought you had the rev I.

Also, if you refresh the page you will see I just revised and extended my remarks above to add some observations about selecting channels.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:01:43 EDT

Gunni posted :

said by criggs:

whether switching from Compatibility mode to N Performance mode also helps you

All my devices are N compatible, but my present Actiontec router is not so there's no way I can switch to N performance mode, correct?

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 16:58:20 EDT

criggs posted : And don't forget too to see whether switching from Compatibility mode to N Performance mode also helps you (assuming all your devices are N compatible; in my case it was a non-starter since one of my three laptops is an old Windows XP, and I then found out it has G, not N, which meant I had to switch back to Compatible).

Also, with regard to changing channels. I discovered today that that can sometimes be a moving target. On Friday I changed from Auto to Channel 1, which made no difference, and then to 6, which immediately boosted the speed ABOVE the Ethernet minimums, 60/30!

However, today I found myself in the 20s on both sides. So I had to hunt for a new channel; I found that 11 was fine. But that teaches me that I have to keep an eye on it, probably on a daily basis, as conditions can change. Specifically with regard to my situation, I suspect I'm dealing with a weekday/weekend situation.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 16:56:14 EDT

Gunni posted : Thanks so very much to all for taking the time to answer my questions and for your patience and suggestions. I will try changing the channels on my router tonight, around 2100H, and seeing if there is any improvement. I will report back here with the results.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 16:51:44 EDT

bluepoint posted : Ethernet connections are pretty much standard whether it's a Mac or Windows. It will play nice.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 16:48:10 EDT

Gunni posted :

said by bluepoint:

Now that your question is answered, powerline is not limited to 14Mbps. According to smallnet builder, there is a 200Mbps model that you might want to check out.
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/ ··· rk-speed

Thanks so much for that link; now I have my fingers crossed that these will play nice with Mac computers.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 16:47:43 EDT

bluepoint posted :

said by Gunni:

The Apple Airport Extreme Base Station and the Airport Express use 5GHz. Since the Express receives and boosts the signal of the Base Station, perhaps this too is worth investigating further.

I'm not familiar with apple routers but if it is wireless bridge/extender the speed will be cut in half.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 16:36:52 EDT

bluepoint posted :

said by Gunni:

Aha! So there's the answer. I looked into the technology briefly and found out there are two different systems and the latest one, PowerPacket technology, claims speeds of 14Mbps. I'll have to read further into this possible solution

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 14:30:54 EDT

Gunni posted :

said by dfwguy:

Powerline is an option because all of those circuits tie together at the main breaker for the home, but depending on the quality of the wiring, may or may not be any better than wireless.

said by dfwguy:

If you have a cable outlet on the first floor (but not in the basement), you might consider MoCA to the first floor, then wireless into the basement. 5GHz will do OK through a single floor, but probably not 3, unless your house is built out of tissue paper.

The previous tenant had cable TV; we do not. His line came in through the house wall directly into the basement. When Verizon installed FiOS, they pulled the Coax cable from the ONT, which is outside the basement wall, to our attic and then down into the 3rd Floor room which we use as an office.

A third possibility exits. As I mentioned previously, I saw a post that said this.

I currently have the Actiontec set up as the DHCP server and an Apple Airport Extreme serving as the wireless plus an Airport Express upstairs to extend the network.

Only two things I cannot do:
Running DD-WRT on my router (won't run on either the Actiontec or the Apple).
Using Apple's Guest network feature so guests don't have to use my home network."

The Apple Airport Extreme Base Station and the Airport Express use 5GHz. Since the Express receives and boosts the signal of the Base Station, perhaps this too is worth investigating further.

Re: [Networking] Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 14:16:02 EDT

dfwguy posted : 5GHz networks have better performance than 2.4GHz because there's a lot more spectrum available, and a lot less stuff using it. However, because the wavelength at 5GHz is less than half what it is at 2.4GHz, it doesn't penetrate walls as well, and floors are usually even worse because they're more substantial than interior walls. If you have a cable outlet on the first floor (but not in the basement), you might consider MoCA to the first floor, then wireless into the basement. 5GHz will do OK through a single floor, but probably not 3, unless your house is built out of tissue paper.

Powerline is an option because all of those circuits tie together at the main breaker for the home, but depending on the quality of the wiring, may or may not be any better than wireless.

[Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:59:27 EDT

bluepoint posted : There might not be any in dslreports but in another site that's why I suggested to do a search. ;) If I have time later I'll check around. You haven't answered if you live in a building or townhouse on it's own?

[Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:45:04 EDT

Gunni posted : I just went through the page listing all the Forums here and thought I was posting in the right place; I can't see anything obvious that I missed, but perhaps I have?

[Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:41:31 EDT

bluepoint posted : I'll try to look around but in the meantime bingle it also, you never know you might find it first. ;)As far as linking this thread its up to you but there is really no reason if you tell them what you're trying to do.

[Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:37:59 EDT

Gunni posted : If you'd be kind enough to tell me what forum that is, I will do so. Should I then, in that new forum, post a URL connecting to this thread so folks can see what's transpired to date?

Thanks

[Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:35:37 EDT

bluepoint posted : Do you live in a building or on its own townhouse? I think it's better that you ask your question in another forum specific to these devices I myself have not used the technology or just try it, if it doesn't work, return it. ;)

[Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:29:58 EDT

Gunni posted :

said by bluepoint:

The technology uses your electrical wire to send the internet signal. I think the way it works is, you plug a hardware to one of your outlet that is connected to the router's LAN port then at the other end where the TV is, you connect another hardware to the closes outlet then you connect an Ethernet cable from there to the TV LAN port.

But...how can that possibly work??? I am on the third floor, on one circuit breaker. There is a panel in the basement with about two dozen circuits and the AppleTv simply must be on another circuit breaker no? The signal can't possibly jump to another circuit can it?

[Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:26:56 EDT

bluepoint posted :

said by Gunni:

Since I have no Coax cable close to the AppleTV, a MoCA bridge is out.

I can't dope out how Ethernet over Household Wires works if you WiFi is on one circuit breaker and your AppleTV is on another how does the signal "jump the gap"? Not possible, right

[Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:26:24 EDT

Gunni posted : As I mentioned above, no cable outlet in the basement.

Three nearby neighbors have FiOS. Both of their signals are very weak when I check them, -87 and -88, whereas mine is -26.

I don't know how to paste a graphic in a post here, so here is a Dropbox link to a screen shot of my NetSpot results:

»goo.gl/VLPVWF

Do the 5GHz routers indeed have a reputation for poor signal strength? My 2.4GHz provides quite a strong signal to my AppleTV all day long and then takes a terrible nosedive at prime time.

I share a common wall with only one neighbor who has Comcast and she shows up on the NetSpot results as "nowires" on Channel 11,-1 and with a pretty weak signal to boot.

[Networking] Re: Adding a WiFi modem to Actiontec M1424WR router

Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:09:54 EDT

dfwguy posted : Edit: too slow

Do you have coax on the first floor? MoCA adapter there feeding a 5GHz AP, assuming your stuff in the basement is 5GHz compatible.