Yes. I live in a rural 2acre subdivision. Most houses here are 10 to 15 yrs old and a new area has just opened up. The ftth means that I should be getting bell fibre internet shortly?

Population density isn't a problem in cities and people in rural Canada do not have wired internet.

The irony of it all is that it would actually be cheaper for Bell to deploy fibre to rural areas with above-ground infrastructure and not many end-user drop points than it would be to deploy it to a dense area with underground services like the GTA and most of the rest of urban/suburban Southern Ontario.

Perhaps if someone can convince the operating company that it should charge different prices to different neighborhoods to reflect the true cost of providing service.

Engineering studies are not required to pull fibre through conduits to MDUs in a downtown core, as far as I know. Access to the conduits for this purpose is a CRTC-regulated service.

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Last year, the New America Foundation’s Open Technology Institute published The Cost of Connectivity, a first-of-its-kind study of the cost of consumer broadband services in 22 cities around the world.[1] The results showed that, in comparison to their international peers, Americans in major cities such as New York, Los Angeles, and Washington, DC are paying higher prices for slower Internet service. While the plans and prices have been updated in the intervening year, the 2013 data shows little progress, reflecting remarkably similar trends to what we observed in 2012

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I suspect in the coming years you'll see some IISPs beginning to deploy FTTH with pre-signups similar to Google Fibre to gauge interest in neighbourhoods.

The population density of my neighbourhood is roughly 26,000 people per square kilometre, the densest place in Quebec. That's far denser than Tokyo (6,000), Seoul (17,000), or Hong Kong (6,500). Do we have fibre to the home? Nope.

Heck, my building is already half-wired for it; Bell uses ethernet to the unit when available, and my building already has ethernet running the length of the corridor in a hidden cable trough, used to service the wifi access points along the corridor. Most of the work to deploy FTTH is already done.

The part I missed was that it was from 1989, so it would have been pre-amalgamation Toronto.

I'm not sure where you getting your numbers, but I'm seeing New york being 2 times more dense then Toronto.

It's a stupid argument, even if I read a population density chart incorrectly.

AH ok, let's just ignore whatever can influence such price,

It's not really that dence at all, GTA is like 10 times bigger then Seoul.

The population density of my neighbourhood is roughly 26,000 people per square kilometre, the densest place in Quebec. That's far denser than Tokyo (6,000), Seoul (17,000), or Hong Kong (6,500). Do we have fibre to the home? Nope.

Heck, my building is already half-wired for it; Bell uses ethernet to the unit when available, and my building already has ethernet running the length of the corridor in a hidden cable trough, used to service the wifi access points along the corridor. Most of the work to deploy FTTH is already done.

There are parts of Toronto that are denser than that.

I don't give shit about their cost of living, it's a strawman on a forum about the internet, where we talk about, you know, the internet?

I could talk about how much less a bottle of Bourbon costs in the US/UK/SK as well, but the topic at hand here is the Internet, in Canada, and how much more it costs here than other places.

Try and keep up.

I have no idea if this is the densest in HK since I don't live there, but that showed a density of 53000/km2.

Nearly 20
million people live in a line from east to west.Density is farce

The population density of my neighbourhood is roughly 26,000 people per square kilometre, the densest place in Quebec. That's far denser than Tokyo (6,000), Seoul (17,000), or Hong Kong (6,500). Do we have fibre to the home? Nope.

25/10 VDSL is the real deal if you can get it. It's sufficiently fast for running multiple twitch streams. I don't envy anyone (except maybe 1gbs google fiber people).

While faster would be "nice", I don't spend much time thinking about it because there aren't yet practical applications for it; other than over sizing the pipe to compensate for no QoS implementation.

Nearly 20 million people live in a line from east to west.Density is farce