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[Channels] Verizon Channel 19 - Me TVI switched from TWC to FIOS last summer and was happy to continue to receive ME-TV. Unfortunately it seems FIOS rebroadcasts ME-TV over a Bridgeport based over the air channel WZME. TWC seemed to provide a cable-based ME-TV feed rather than the OTA. The reason it makes a difference is that WZME broadcasts a good number of paid ads in place of WZME shows.
Does anyone know why FIOS provides an inferior channel feed to TWC here? The paid advertising sucks in place of shows on ME-TV I would like to see. |
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 matcarl
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matcarl
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2014-Feb-26 1:54 pm
[Channels] Re: Verizon Channel 19 - Me TVVerizon has no control over what WZME broadcasts. They carried WZME before they started airing Me TV. |
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WZME is a local broadcast channel that has "must carry" status. The programming they air is irrelevant to why Verizon carries this channel. There is a new Me-TV affiliate coming to NYC (and Philly) in the second quarter of this year. It will be broadcasting OTA on digital channel 3 and will likely have "must carry" status. » www.tvnewscheck.com/arti ··· ry-slots |
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So do you mean that Channel 3 in NY is going to become a ME TV affiliate? And if so, will Verizon in NY carry it there, and eliminate WZME from channel 19? Or carry both? They are not Must carries, so it might be Verizon's option. |
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ansky
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2014-Feb-26 6:07 pm
said by charliewatts:So do you mean that Channel 3 in NY is going to become a ME TV affiliate? And if so, will Verizon in NY carry it there, and eliminate WZME from channel 19? Or carry both? They are not Must carries, so it might be Verizon's option. According to the article Channel 3 will be a new OTA channel that signs on the air in NYC next quarter and will carry the Me-TV network. The first line in the article indicates that channel 3 will be must-carry. At that time WZME will no longer carry Me-TV. There is no telling what WZME will become, but it will likely go back to 24/7 infomercials. I thought WZME was must-carry, so Verizon would need to carry them regardless of what their programming is. Verizon was carrying WZME even back when they were WSAH and only carried infomercials. |
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said by ansky:There is a new Me-TV affiliate coming to NYC (and Philly) in the second quarter of this year. It will be broadcasting OTA on digital channel 3 and will likely have "must carry" status.
»www.tvnewscheck.com/arti ··· ry-slots Thanks for the link. Unfortunately for antenna users, it looks as if they will be transmitting on VHF-Lo physical channels equal to the digital virtual channel number: 2 in the Philadelphia area and 3 in the New York City area. Many newer antennas are not designed to receive VHF-Lo. |
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dfwguy
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2014-Feb-27 5:37 pm
Not a lot of choice with all 7 high VHF channels already in use in NYC, Philly, or adjacent markets that spill over into their areas. The ultimate goal is must-carry status on cable and satellite anyway, and with both stations transmitting from good locations with plenty of power that they'll easily qualify for it. The big joke of it is that they used some old federal law requiring that every state have at least one licensed commercial VHF station to be able to move in the first place, and neither station is even transmitting from the state they're licensed to. The entire thing was pretty much pork barrel politics on the part of New Jersey's senators back in the 80s. |
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Re: [Channels] Verizon Channel 19 - Me TVWZME 19 in the NYC DMA was broadcasting their usual MeTV line up on Saturday night.. Batman, Wonder Women, Star Trek etc...
The article stated on March 1st channel 19 would drop MeTV which was not the case yesterday. |
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matcarl
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matcarl
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2014-Mar-2 11:56 am
said by thetick:WZME 19 in the NYC DMA was broadcasting their usual MeTV line up on Saturday night.. Batman, Wonder Women, Star Trek etc...
The article stated on March 1st channel 19 would drop MeTV which was not the case yesterday. It says March 1 for Philly and second quater of this year for NYC. It makes no mention of March 1 for WZME |
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Well, talk about a convoluted way to get a station on the airwaves! Buys a station in Nevada, moves it to NJ through an ancient loophole, broadcasts on perhaps the worst frequency you can, etc. |
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ansky
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2014-Mar-2 8:32 pm
said by Greg2600:Well, talk about a convoluted way to get a station on the airwaves! Buys a station in Nevada, moves it to NJ through an ancient loophole, broadcasts on perhaps the worst frequency you can, etc. Yeah, VHF-Lo has terrible reception in the city with all the buildings. But the station's primary goal is to get must-carry status on all the local cable services. Anyone who actually watches OTA is just a bonus. |
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said by ansky:Yeah, VHF-Lo has terrible reception in the city with all the buildings. But the station's primary goal is to get must-carry status on all the local cable services. Anyone who actually watches OTA is just a bonus. Actually this station is supposed to be full power off the Conde Nast building in Manhattan. So it should have a similar range as other major NYC-based networks. But VHF channel 3 is I think a poor channel due to it's low range in the frequency. Anyway, I think it will come in fine for most people. It's just so ironic that the analog to digital transition opened the loophole. The owners are actually NJ-based, having ownership of radio stations on the Jersey Shore. They purchased the Nevada station I believe solely to "move it" and get through the loophole. It's quite clever. From the looks, they will have local news/weather as well, and will likely air more Me-TV programming than WZME did. |
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samuelpee
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2014-Mar-3 11:53 am
Greg most ota viewers have ttrouble getting vhf hi channels like wabc and wpix so they sure as heck will have issues getting vhf lo. |
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bsangs
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2014-Mar-3 12:50 pm
said by samuelpee :Greg most ota viewers have ttrouble getting vhf hi channels like wabc and wpix so they sure as heck will have issues getting vhf lo. So that's the reason, huh? When I had Directv and used an indoor antenna for backup OTA channels, those were the only two stations that either wouldn't come in at all, or were so bad it wasn't worth the effort to fine-tune the signal. Didn't have to rely much on OTA signals so I never really tried to troubleshoot why, but your post clears that up pretty well. Thanks. |
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Yes 7 and 11 are physically VHF 7 and 11, so they don't come in as easily. 13 has issues too. I personally can get them with old rabbit ears by moving them slightly.
You should try one of those thin flat antennas made by Mohu Leaf, they work tremendously. Try laying them flat against a wall/window facing East/West. Home Depot sells ones made by Wineguard, I have one, they work great too. Could also use a small plug-in amplifier too to help. |
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bsangs
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2014-Mar-3 1:28 pm
said by Greg2600:Yes 7 and 11 are physically VHF 7 and 11, so they don't come in as easily. 13 has issues too. I personally can get them with old rabbit ears by moving them slightly.
You should try one of those thin flat antennas made by Mohu Leaf, they work tremendously. Try laying them flat against a wall/window facing East/West. Home Depot sells ones made by Wineguard, I have one, they work great too. Could also use a small plug-in amplifier too to help. Trust me, I tried them all - including the flat ones. Had no problems with any other channels, just 7 and 11, no matter which antenna I was using. Don't use one anymore though. |
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Well you're sandwiched between a couple small "mountains" up in Montclair. |
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matcarl
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matcarl
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2014-Mar-3 2:49 pm
Nothing to do with mountains, this digital OTA conversion screwed a lot of people. I can't get much either with those indoor antennas. I feel sorry for anyone who really just relies on OTA. |
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Re: [Channels] Verizon Channel 19 - Me TVsaid by Greg2600:Yes 7 and 11 are physically VHF 7 and 11, so they don't come in as easily. 13 has issues too. I personally can get them with old rabbit ears by moving them slightly.
You should try one of those thin flat antennas made by Mohu Leaf, they work tremendously. Try laying them flat against a wall/window facing East/West. Home Depot sells ones made by Wineguard, I have one, they work great too. Could also use a small plug-in amplifier too to help. For VHF transmissions rabbit ears are better choice than Mohu Leaf and similar flat antennas. The elements of the flat antennas are too short to be very sensitive to VHF. See » www.kyes.com/antenna/rab ··· ear.html for suggestions of the lengths to set rabbit ears to for highest sensitivity. |
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said by matcarl:Nothing to do with mountains, this digital OTA conversion screwed a lot of people. I can't get much either with those indoor antennas. I feel sorry for anyone who really just relies on OTA. Mountains have a big impact on TV reception. I live on the side of a mountain facing NYC (I can see the skyline from my house) and I can pick up all digital channels from NYC, even the low-power ones. But I can drive a mile up over to the other side of the mountain (facing West) and hardly pick up anything. Just take a look at the Longley-rice coverage maps on rabbitears.info and you'll see what I mean. Here is the coverage map for KVNV: » www.rabbitears.info/cont ··· =1556496Click the Longley-Rice option just beneath the map for the best depiction of coverage. |
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