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Re: 6 missing dogs died in back of Langley dog walker's truckThat's cold HiVolt, really cold.
Should people not have kids if they're going to have a babysitter once a month so they can go out to dinner? Is it the parents fault if the babysitter kills the child? |
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said by balur:That's cold HiVolt, really cold.
Should people not have kids if they're going to have a babysitter once a month so they can go out to dinner? Is it the parents fault if the babysitter kills the child? Im with HIVOLT. A pet is not a trinket. If your not prepared to look after it, then dont get one. I would never get a large dog if living in the city. Reminds me of the SNL sketch the other night of the two rich eftards at a play or ballet or something. They kept asking their servant if they were on a plane, and did they have a baby etc etc........ (it turns out they did but he was 19) Not even living a real life as they had everything done for them. I dont know anybody that hires dog walkers, its the domain of ppl with far more money. Most of us with cats or dogs either get a neighbour we trust or family member to assist if going on vacation etc........... I feel sorry for the dogs for sure. |
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said by balur:Should people not have kids if they're going to have a babysitter once a month so they can go out to dinner? Is it the parents fault if the babysitter kills the child? People aren't property. Animals are. Your entire life and world changes when you have children in a way no one can realistically describe. The same does not happen when one gets an animal, even though it probably should. |
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If you had pets Gone, you wouldnt think of them a property. Might have to call you Grinch not Gone lol............ |
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My work is near a park that has a designated fenced in dog area... I sometimes go to the park for lunch or break, and I often see women who are 100lbs soaking wet at the most with 5-6 large dogs.
On several occasions I've seen the dogs get excited and just break loose and run down to play with other dogs before they enter the fenced in area, which is right next to a busy street...
Lucky those dogs haven't been struck by a car or attacked anyone. And yes, those same dogwalkers often have pitbulls, rottweilers and other large dangerous dogs in their groups. |
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said by Gone:People aren't property. Animals are.
Your entire life and world changes when you have children in a way no one can realistically describe. The same does not happen when one gets an animal, even though it probably should. Hogwash. Having a dog is a kin to having a perpetual toddler. The only difference is, you can leave a dog alone for a longer period of time than a child. Aside from that, you feed him/her, teach him/her, give affection, scold, monitor health, monitor bathroom habits etc. There is very little difference between having a child or a dog. Cats on the other hand.... |
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said by Anav:If you had pets Gone, you wouldnt think of them a property. Might have to call you Grinch not Gone lol............ I can assure you that our three cats were our children before the kids were born haha. But that doesn't change the fact that legally, an animal is property. |
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said by nekkidtruth:Hogwash. Having a dog is a kin to having a perpetual toddler. The only difference is, you can leave a dog alone for a longer period of time than a child. Aside from that, you feed him/her, teach him/her, give affection, scold, monitor health, monitor bathroom habits etc. There is very little difference between having a child or a dog. The fact that there are people who will shove off a dog to the pound at the first sign of trouble is the only distinction that matters between a dog and a child. Myself, I am of the opinion that an animal is very much like a child. It doesn't matter how inconvenient the dog or cat is, you're the one who decided to take it and you're in it for the long haul. Problem is that there are a lot of people out there who do not think like that and have no problem getting rid of an animal the first chance they need to. |
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said by Gone:The fact that there are people who will shove off a dog to the pound at the first sign of trouble is the only distinction that matters between a dog and a child. Something I despise in some pet owners, personally. However, realistically...children can be neglected and subsequently removed from the home as well. Given up for adoption...etc. I'm not saying kids and dogs are identical, just that they are extremely similar. said by Gone:Myself, I am of the opinion that an animal is very much like a child. It doesn't matter how inconvenient the dog or cat is, you're the one who decided to take it and you're in it for the long haul. Problem is that there are a lot of people out there who do not think like that and have no problem getting rid of an animal the first chance they need to. I had my dog for 13 years and had been through a LOT. There were even moments where the thought had crossed my mind that it might be in HIS best interest if he lived elsewhere, but just as quickly as the thought entered my mind it exited. They are such a huge commitment and if I would have missed out on even a day during that 13 years, I would have regretted it for the rest of my life. It truly bothers me when I see people who have a pet and just don't understand that they are not an accessory. They have needs and require you to treat them just as you would a child. |
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I have a cat who is going to be 15 a month and a half from now. He has been with me everywhere I have been for a full half of my life. I can't imagine dumping him off for any reason. Hell, I've even made choices in living arrangements in the past to accommodate his needs more than my own, haha. |
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said by Anav:I dont know anybody that hires dog walkers, its the domain of ppl with far more money. Most of us with cats or dogs either get a neighbour we trust or family member to assist if going on vacation etc.... If you are blessed with such, that's great. Not always possible. I suspect also that it may be easier in some towns than others. Sure is a big business in Toronto. Dog walking is hardly a new business. Arthur C. Clarke made it a central point of a story he wrote back in 1941. |
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said by Gone:The fact that there are people who will shove off a dog to the pound at the first sign of trouble is the only distinction that matters between a dog and a child. Sadly, some parents shove their children off to boarding school. The Royal Family likes to do it, with bad results.... » www.dailymail.co.uk/news ··· lts.html |
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Prince Philip is to this day still an asshole. |
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said by PX Eliezer1: If you are blessed with such, that's great.
Not always possible. ...and that's when a responsible adult reconsiders their desire to have a pet. I love dogs, shared more than half my life with them but when I moved out of my folks' place I had to make the decision that having a pet wasn't a good idea at all considering I'd be living on my own, hundreds of kilometers away from closest family and had a job that would regularly require that I be away for weeks at a time. Selfish people are selfish. Stupid selfish people cause animals to suffer unnecessarily. I'd never consider a pet to be on same footing as a "family member" or human in general yet it appears I have a hell of a lot more respect for them than most of those selfish morons do. That's fucking sad. |
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said by IamGimli:I love dogs, shared more than half my life with them but when I moved out of my folks' place I had to make the decision that having a pet wasn't a good idea at all considering I'd be living on my own, hundreds of kilometers away from closest family and had a job that would regularly require that I be away for weeks at a time. Being away for "weeks at a time" is different from a situation in which a family might need help for part of each weekday because dad and mom are at work and the kids are in school. Selfish people are selfish. Stupid selfish people cause animals to suffer unnecessarily. These families arranged for care for their pets. "Selfish" would be NOT arranging for it, leaving the dog cooped up all day. I don't know about these dogs specifically but surely some dogs in the care of dogwalkers were shelter rescues, adopted by families. Would you rather the dogs still be in the animal shelter? Or have been killed by the shelter? TL/DR: Anyone who has had their children in day care, aftercare, or cared for by a babysitter, nanny, or au pair, has no business slamming the use of dogwalkers as selfish. |
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said by PX Eliezer1:TL/DR: Anyone who has had their children in day care, aftercare, or cared for by a babysitter, nanny, or au pair, has no business slamming the use of dogwalkers as selfish. Agreed. |
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