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Navitron
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Re: [Signals] 8.5+ dBm variance across 8 downstream channels

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So I did end up calling a tech out. Everything was fine on the internal wiring, he did some work on the pole. Getting a lot more stable singles now and able to bond 4 upstream channels no problem.

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Your area must have 16 channels because your DS frequency are not the same between the two shots.

That said the higher ones do generally have more spread. Mine is about 5dB between channel 1 and 8 and is completely normal in the design of my neighborhood.

JeepMatt
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As the other poster mentioned - yep - appears your area of Seattle is set up for 16x4 internet channels.

Navitron
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Are you sure about 16x4? To me it just looks like the ordering of the channels in the GUI by the Arris Firmware are a little bugged. If you order it by DCID all the channels line up 555-597MHz with 6MHz per channel.

Doesn't make sense to implement 16 channel bonding without even any hardware out that can support it.

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said by Navitron:

Are you sure about 16x4? To me it just looks like the ordering of the channels in the GUI by the Arris Firmware are a little bugged. If you order it by DCID all the channels line up 555-597MHz with 6MHz per channel.

Doesn't make sense to implement 16 channel bonding without even any hardware out that can support it.

Your first screen shot is 8 channels from 603-646 Mhz.

There are several modems out that support 16 channels. The Arris SB6183, DG1670, and TG1672 being 3 of them.

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said by Navitron:

Doesn't make sense to implement 16 channel bonding without even any hardware out that can support it.

Sure it does. D3 modems can always be load balanced across the available bonding groups. In this case you could have x1 16 channel bonding group, x2 8 channel bonding groups and x4 4 channel bonding groups.

And as DocDrew pointed out there are more and more modems coming out with support for 16 channels.

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Interesting. As far as 16x4 being "out" 1 guy selling SB6183 on ebay or having to do back ally deals with a guy who knows a guy that works at Arris. To be able to get your hands on one would hardly call them being "out." :P

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well some of them may be rented out by comcast only, and not for sale at retail.

i know some people are getting a Cisco DPC3008/DPC3939 rented out, and they're both 16 down.

moar channels!

EG
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said by train_wreck:

i know some people are getting a Cisco DPC3008/DPC3939 rented out, and they're both 16 down.

FWIW, the 3008 has only 8 downstream channel capability.

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said by Navitron:

Doesn't make sense to implement 16 channel bonding without even any hardware out that can support it.

16x4 is out and about (just not live in my area yet).

Here is mine:
It's customer owned and not a stolen/eBay one, not even the Cisco one hah




16x4 and 24x8 are the future D3 modems for the most part.
Only sad part is I think most will become Gateways sadly, not just modems.

But as others said, it doesn't matter if 16x4 or better modems even exist. If you have 16 or 24 channels on the node, the system overall has more bandwidth available and thus they can either give you faster speeds, or it clears up congestion as has more room to balance better.

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said by Anno :

If you have 16 or 24 channels on the node, the system overall has more bandwidth available and thus they can either give you faster speeds, or it clears up congestion as has more room to balance better.

Yes, up to the technical limitation of the total number of multiple bonded channels. The congestion alleviation / load balancing part is indeed so !
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It appears the OP's system has 16 DS channels and his modem grabs eight contiguous ones. In his 5/24 screenshot, he's got them from 603 to 645 MHz (labeled DCID 201-208) and in his 6/9 screenshot, he's got them from 555 to 597 MHz (DCID 193-200).

My system also has 16 DS channels (from 561 to 651 MHz) but the modem seems to grab them more randomly. If they're ever contiguous, it's just chance.