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[Equip] Comcast introduces a new wireless gateway - the Cisco DPC3941T

On the Comcast Voices blog site today:

Introducing the Industry's Fastest Wireless Gateway
By Eric Schaefer, Senior VP, Wireless Product Management, Comcast Voices - September 8, 2014
»corporate.comcast.com/co ··· -gateway

The Technology Behind the Industry’s Fastest Wireless Gateway
By Jill Formichella, Dir. of Home Network Product Development, Comcast Voices - September 8, 2014
»corporate.comcast.com/co ··· -gateway
quote:
Comcast’s new Xfinity Wireless Gateway, the DPC3941T, features the latest industry technology to provide superior performance and make it the fastest on the market. The DCP3941T features cutting edge 802.11ac Wi-Fi technology, a high power 3x3 MIMO design with 3 spatial streams that can provide up to 1.3 Gbps of raw throughput, 80 MHz wide Wi-Fi channel support, and 256-QAM modulation.
 
Also see:

Comcast Rolls Out Speedier Wireless Gateway
Cisco-Made Device Sports 802.11ac, MoCA 2.0

By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - September 8, 2014
»www.multichannel.com/new ··· y/383631

EDIT: BTW - Here's a guide I found for it:

Wireless Network Connection and Troubleshooting Tips
Wireless Gateway 2/XB3 (Models DPC3939, DPC3941T, TC8717C)

ENG_WG2XB3_0714.indd - 6/17/14
»media2.comcast.net/anon. ··· 0714.pdf

EDIT2: Karl now has a news item up about it: »Comcast Unveils New 'Industry's Fastest' Wireless Gateway [25] comments
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Thanks.

Hopefully this won't be as difficult for customers to to get as the DPC3939 was.
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Good find! At least it has 802.11ac.

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What's the difference between this one I talked about before?
»[WiFi] Cisco DPC3941 Gateway - Rental - AC1750 Wireless! 16x4 D3

Is it just the same thing, but with a T?

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said by Darknessfall:

Is it just the same thing, but with a T?

With the DPC3939, the DPC3939B model is used for their Business Services. What the "T" suffix means, IDK.

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TC8717C
Here's the FCC pages for each gateway:

DPC3941(T?)
»apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/r ··· IDPC3941

TC8717C
»apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/r ··· -TC8717C

These gateways are only 16x4... which is odd...

The DPC3941 calls itself the XB3v2

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wonder if the USB port will actually be accessible on this one?
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This will not be available for a couple of years to actual customers.

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I was testing the model about a week ago.. Really nice speeds, almost 850/75.. I miss spoke it was 700..

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said by NetDog:

I was testing the model about a week ago.. Really nice speeds, almost 850/75..

Wait, isn't it supposed to be 16x4 since that's what the manuals are saying? or is it another DPC3939 situation where the manuals say 8x4 when it was actually 16x4?

So the DPC3941T is 24x8(or by 4 upstream?) and the TC8717 is 16x4?

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»corporate.comcast.com/co ··· -gateway

It was bonding 24x4.. and I miss spoke it was 700..

»stage.results.speedtest. ··· 9064.png

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said by Darknessfall:

What's the difference between this one I talked about before?
»[WiFi] Cisco DPC3941 Gateway - Rental - AC1750 Wireless! 16x4 D3

Is it just the same thing, but with a T?

said by Darknessfall:

said by NetDog:

I was testing the model about a week ago.. Really nice speeds, almost 850/75..

Wait, isn't it supposed to be 16x4 since that's what the manuals are saying? or is it another DPC3939 situation where the manuals say 8x4 when it was actually 16x4?

So the DPC3941T is 24x8(or by 4 upstream?) and the TC8717 is 16x4?

said by NetDog:

It was bonding 24x4.. and I miss spoke it was 700..

»stage.results.speedtest. ··· 9064.png

That manual, which said it was 16x4, was from that FCC OET Exhibits List for the (non-"T") DPC3941 model. Maybe the final "T" version is 24x8?

Either that, or maybe Cisco is using the same scheme as ARRIS, where a 16x4 base model can be upgraded to an enhanced 24x8 model by purchasing a special license: »[Equip] Arris TM1602 Voice Modem - 16x4 upgradable to 24x8

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I can see Comcast passing this license down onto consumers as a monthly fee. "Expanded Modem Channel Bonding Service Fee: $1.99 a month"

:P

It looks like a nice device, if it has decent signal range. Most of the gateways I have seen have had pretty poor signal range that could be beat by a coax cable plugged into a potato (the SMC D3Gnv was pretty bad).
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said by Zenit_IIfx:

I can see Comcast passing this license down onto consumers as a monthly fee. "Expanded Modem Channel Bonding Service Fee: $1.99 a month"

:P

Haha! And maybe "802.11ac Wireless Access Fee - $0.99/month".

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Well heres the question does it have a more powerful CPU and more ram than the DPC3939B ?

if so I'll be annoyed as I'm finally getting my SMC replaced with a DPC3939B (and have no plans to use the DPC's wifi.

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said by DarkLogix:

Well heres the question does it have a more powerful CPU and more ram than the DPC3939B ?

if so I'll be annoyed as I'm finally getting my SMC replaced with a DPC3939B (and have no plans to use the DPC's wifi.

According to the article,
"Also featured in the 3941T, which the previous Wireless Gateway 2 did not have, is a higher power Atom based CPU from Intel and an additional 512MB RAM to help future proof the device."

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said by Darknessfall:

said by DarkLogix:

Well heres the question does it have a more powerful CPU and more ram than the DPC3939B ?

if so I'll be annoyed as I'm finally getting my SMC replaced with a DPC3939B (and have no plans to use the DPC's wifi.

According to the article,
"Also featured in the 3941T, which the previous Wireless Gateway 2 did not have, is a higher power Atom based CPU from Intel and an additional 512MB RAM to help future proof the device."

well now I'm slightly annoyed, oh well its not like its available on BCI accounts yet or like the CPU/RAM would make much difference.
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What CCAP platform were you using to push out 24 QAMs? Ours are only at 16 per port with Harmonic's Pro but we're moving the broadcast around to accommodate for 32.

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Woah, an x86 powered home router that is for regular home users???

Amazing!

Too bad Comcast will NEVER open up access to the device to let users load, lets say, PFSense to it.

Will the x86 Atom be handling both the Cable Modem and Router Functions? Or is the CM a separate embedded SoC?

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said by Zenit_IIfx:

Too bad Comcast will NEVER open up access to the device to let users load, lets say, PFSense to it.

Never say never...

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said by jlivingood:

said by Zenit_IIfx:

Too bad Comcast will NEVER open up access to the device to let users load, lets say, PFSense to it.

Never say never...

Could someone do a tegra k1 based gateway with the CM and the router virtualized so the router isn't borked when the CM's "firmware" is updated?

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said by Zenit_IIfx:

I can see Comcast passing this license down onto consumers as a monthly fee. "Expanded Modem Channel Bonding Service Fee: $1.99 a month"

That has to be the gayest thing comcast has ever thought of. When does the greed end with this company ?

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said by Jim721:

said by Zenit_IIfx:

I can see Comcast passing this license down onto consumers as a monthly fee. "Expanded Modem Channel Bonding Service Fee: $1.99 a month"

That has to be the gayest thing comcast has ever thought of. When does the greed end with this company ?

That was a hypothetical post by a user that doesn't mean Comcast has or hasn't thought of it.

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said by DarkLogix:

said by Jim721:

said by Zenit_IIfx:

I can see Comcast passing this license down onto consumers as a monthly fee. "Expanded Modem Channel Bonding Service Fee: $1.99 a month"

That has to be the gayest thing comcast has ever thought of. When does the greed end with this company ?

That was a hypothetical post by a user that doesn't mean Comcast has or hasn't thought of it.

Yeah, right now I've only seen equipment vendors, such as ARRIS, do this to the MSOs. See: »Re: [Equip] Arris TM1602 Voice Modem - 16x4 upgradable to 24x8

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I meant it as a joke. :/ Not hypothetical. I doubt they would even try. Probably lump it into the install fee for customers ordering speeds that would require the extra channels.

Hopefully I did not give Comcast any ideas :P

I do think its a bit unusual that the hardware industry keeps trying to offer licences to unlock hardware features. Intel did this once not too long ago, I think an access code unlocked more L3 cache.

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said by Zenit_IIfx:

Hopefully I did not give Comcast any ideas :P

You might have, though there's no telling what their marketing group has thought of.

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said by DarkLogix:

Could someone do a tegra k1 based gateway with the CM and the router virtualized so the router isn't borked when the CM's "firmware" is updated?

How nice would that be..

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said by NetDog:

said by DarkLogix:

Could someone do a tegra k1 based gateway with the CM and the router virtualized so the router isn't borked when the CM's "firmware" is updated?

How nice would that be..

If I could find the people to make it happen I think a kickstarter would be awesome.
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said by Zenit_IIfx:

I do think its a bit unusual that the hardware industry keeps trying to offer licences to unlock hardware features. Intel did this once not too long ago, I think an access code unlocked more L3 cache.

Or game companies that have DLC included on the game disk but make you pay an extra fee for the code to unlock the extra content.
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I'd be happy to contribute to Comcasts wifi plans, if only they covered the equipment fees. Otherwise, I will continue to run my own modem/router and save significant money every year doing so.