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Is wikepedia lying, does WOW really just love money, or does WOW LOVE T ing?» en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi ··· pen_WestWikepedia says they're "the 9th largest cable provider in the United States." meaning they should have the money to upgrade their stuff. So basically what i'm wondering is does wikipedia lie about this, are they throttling Youtube to high heaven, or are they just trying to keep more money by refusing to upgrade their lines. At this point it feels like youtube is just being throttled to high heaven (getting 900 Kbps according to youtube and I even lag at 480p video) or there is about 20 houses per line or something like that (being congested etc idk much about this stuff) Also can wow keep their servers in one spot? I'm tired of being told "You live in Diamonddale MI (close ish I guess?) OH WAIT nevermind now your in Illinois so have fun with higher pings" Edit: Yes looking back on this I am clearly angry with having troubles loading Youtube videos at 480p. I may have said some things I may regret but that's besides the point. Oh btw this hasn't been going on for a few weeks or so. This has been going on for over a year now and STILL hasn't been fixed (It's only been half fixed) |
· actions · 2015-Jan-10 9:00 pm · (locked) |
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"does wikipedia lie about this"--it sounds like you think Wikipedia is some corporate thing, coordinated and centrally edited, with editors coming together in meetings to make decisions about what they write.
Dude, Wikipedia is nothing more than crap. It might be convenient to look up some pop culture stuff, but overall it's a bunch of crap that a bunch of random, unrelated people insert without any real references or credibility.
"I read it on the internet" has become "I read it on Wikipedia". In both cases the information is worth what you paid for it. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-10 9:52 pm · (locked) |
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LOL you know NOTHING about wikipedia. The people of wikipedia check sources and credibility before they even allow an edit.
I can tell you've done a lot of research about wikipedia. Also if you were to look at their sources many of them are credible so you're basically saying all them sites doctors use are all BS to.
Also what does this have to do with the answer to my question? This isn't Yahoo answers you know. You don't get points for giving an "answer" that has nothing to do with the question. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-10 11:39 pm · (locked) |
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said by abcbca123321:LOL you know NOTHING about wikipedia. The people of wikipedia check sources and credibility before they even allow an edit. I'm afraid you don't know anything about Wikipedia. Anyone can edit anything, no login required even. Guess how I know that. So no, Wikipedia isn't a thing that says something. It's simply a place where people can write things. Any things. It might or might not get edited. (And in fact, over the years there have been plenty of stories about Wiki articles containing major factual errors or weird political statements, things that went unchecked for a long, long time.) My point was, you said "is wikipedia lying" or some such drivel. Wikipedia is just a collection of random things people have put down in an article. So your question really is, are the people who wrote about WOW credible? The answer is, who knows. You can't know. Wikipedia is, pretty much, Yahoo answers or some random web forum where people spout anything they like. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-11 8:56 am · (locked) |
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You claimed "is wikipedia lying", however, I did notice there's a lot of vandalism on the WOW page at Wikipedia that has taken place. Several edits to the "services offered" in include changing "cable TV" to "porn" and "internet" to "waste of bandwidth" or "crappy service" and changing the CEO from "Steve Cochran" to "Steve Harvey". Those are some examples.
Yes, it's true, anyone can edit anything at Wikipedia, without logging in, happens quite frequently
It has been mentioned on more than one occasion here in these forums that WOW does not throttle bandwidth, however, WOW will throttle bandwidth in the event of unusual activities such as denial-of-service attacks originating inside of WOW's network. They don't throttle or discriminate against particular types of lawful online content such as web browsing, downloading and uploading of files including file sharing such as P2 (some of it which is unlawful), streaming live video or Youtube and the like.
WOW, of course, is a private business. Wikipedia is not. WOW's credibility is more at stake than Wikipedia. I would argue Wikipedia has little or no credibility as a reliable source of information, since everyone from WOW customers and non-customers alike could post anything about WOW on the WOW page at Wikipedia, and that includes people who don't have to log-in to Wikipedia. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-11 11:17 am · (locked) |
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fatheredpuma,
We do not in any way throttle youtube, or any other content provider.
Most of the time, assuming no issues causing specific problems, the biggest degradation to youtube performance we see is people with the old 2M internet plan (youtube HD content requires a MIN of 2.5m), or people using old cable modems. DOCSIS 1 or 2.
If you were on that 2M plan, a simple modem reboot should get you a new config file at this point. So that shouldn't be an issue any longer.
Another possibility is long tail content from youtube.. Do you have this issue with the most popular youtube content? We have many youtube caches in the network. We have several in Michigan. (We upgraded the google footprint there recently). So any commonly watched content should be local to you and perform very well.
When you go to the WOW speedtest site, what types of speeds are you seeing at the times you are seeing the youtube issues??
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· actions · 2015-Jan-11 4:12 pm · (locked) |
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said by abcbca123321:The people of wikipedia check sources and credibility before they even allow an edit. They do not. All it takes to make an edit is to have a Wikipedia account. I have made a number of very minor, grammatical edits, and not gotten editorial approval. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-11 4:20 pm · (locked) |
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said by abcbca123321:Also can wow keep their servers in one spot? I'm tired of being told "You live in Diamonddale MI (close ish I guess?) OH WAIT nevermind now your in Illinois so have fun with higher pings"
I can't make any sense out of this. I seriously doubt that WOW is moving their servers around. But they may have renumbered their network, changing your assigned IP address. Your apparent location is not coded in your assigned IP address. Your apparent location is based on guesses made by third parties. When an ISP changes IP address assignments, those third party location databases get out of sync with actual, physical locations. It can take several weeks for the databases to catch up to the changes. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-11 4:31 pm · (locked) |
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If alcohol is not involved here, the OP has an agenda for some reason and is struggling valiantly to execute it.
And failing. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-11 5:13 pm · (locked) |
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said by abcbca123321:The people of wikipedia check sources and credibility before they even allow an edit. I'm sorry, but this just cracks me up. Makes me want to send in my resume since they have such high standards. Maybe I can get the Grand Poobah position if it's available. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-11 5:18 pm · (locked) |
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You want scary? This guy can vote and serve jury duty.
So just imagine what politicians and prosecutors can talk him into, and how easy it is to get him to believe them. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-11 6:18 pm · (locked) |
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said by adam1991:Wikipedia is, pretty much, Yahoo answers or some random web forum where people spout anything they like. Your postings are much closer to that than Wikipedia is. Simple-minded people love to throw out the fact that Wikipedia "can be edited by anyone!" as a magical way to ignore anything they see on there. The fact is, there is a lot of stuff on Wikipedia that is not only correct, but has citations to back it up. Blindly trusting anything you find on Wikipedia is almost as misguided as blindly disregarding it. As is being a fanboy of a freaking cable provider that's owned by a private equity firm, but that's none of my business. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 12:22 am · (locked) |
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» prntscr.com/5rtmgt (Pay for 15 Mbps down 2 up. It was just 10 Mbps down at 8 PM) » prntscr.com/5rtlls (It gets slower) Also my modem is a newer modem from what I remember they said. (Arris DG860P2) I've tried rebooting the modem and even have reset the modem settings, made a static ip (Well I used the static ip in the modem so I didn't have to set my DNS for each computer) and used dns server as Googles (I have had troubles in the past a few times using the pregiven dns server) used firewall to block ip's for throttling, (highly doubt that works but hey it was just a simple command line) and used a VPN (works at around 9 PM if I get a good server so I can at least watch 480p videos) |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 8:06 pm · (locked) |
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Sorry when I posted this I was getting fairly frustrated with how terrible the internet speed was and just wanted to enjoy some youtube. Also I was using information given from teachers a while back about wikipedia (I rarely trust teachers are this point for information out side of their courses as it seems 95% of the time they are wrong) |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 8:09 pm · (locked) |
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I just went there and used CTRL+ F and seem to have found nothing of which you speak. I looked for "porn" "waste" and only found Key people
Steven Cochran.
From what i'm getting from this is to prove a point you went there and edited the post just so they could revert it in about 20 minutes. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 8:12 pm · (locked) |
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You've made a static ip? Please tell us how you got access to Wows DHCP server to assign yourself a static address.
Oh, and Wikipedia keeps a history of edits. You will not find them by typing Ctrl-f. You should have your parents help you. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 8:20 pm · (locked) |
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» prntscr.com/5rtimqI know it isn't an actual static ip but I used the static ip part of the modem to change the dns server. Also yes they did indeed change that stuff in the history. The person "supahvillian" has also been banned and removed from wikipedia. His edit was reverted also very quickly (within 2 hours) by what it seems to be a contributor/moderator. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 8:46 pm · (locked) |
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What did you expect changing your DNS server would do for you? |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 8:48 pm · (locked) |
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Keep me connected to the internet... what else? Their pregiven one has failed me multiple times only allowing me to stay on Steam and use its chat. I haven't had any troubles with Googles DNS and haven't had any troubles staying on the internet since I changed it.
Also I saw somewhere that it could help some people with their internet speed and heard that WOW's DNS wasn't to good (Also I got annoyed with changing the DNS everytime I did a reset on my computer) |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 9:03 pm · (locked) |
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DNS is the telephone book. If you use a different telephone book with your phone it doesn't make your phone faster or better. Why would you think it would make your internet speed better?
Seriously you have no clue about anything you have posted. I'm betting that your problem is with your pc. Your parents should take it to a professional to get it fixed. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 9:11 pm · (locked) |
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Malwarebytes anti malware (premium) + Avast+ Malwarebytes anti exploit + scans every few days. A8 6500 (4 cores) 3.9 GHz, GTX 750 Ti SC (+150 OC on RAM), 8 GB RAM, and Windows 7 Ultimate. Skyrim: 60 fps max settings BF3: 100 fps max settings Crysis 2 ME: 60 fps max settings I can assure you that it is not my PC. Also I do know it doesn't. I just used it as an excuse for doing it as I didn't want to have another time being off the internet. Also » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do ··· e_System No I can assure you that a DNS server does not have anything (in this situation) to do with a telephone. It is what recognizes and translates the IP of a server. Without one it does not allow you to connect to servers through IE, Chrome, Firefox etc. Hmm this is interesting. It seems my IP suddenly changed kicking me offline. Ah well thats one of the problems with the Static IP thing. I was hoping it woulda lasted longer then 3 days. At least it seems to have put me back in to MI according to google. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 9:24 pm · (locked) |
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said by abcbca123321:Keep me connected to the internet... what else?
No. DNS has nothing to do with keeping you connected to the Internet. If you can ping an IP address, you are connected. You do need DNS to find the IP address to ping; but that is different from "connecting". |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 10:00 pm · (locked) |
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said by abcbca123321:Also I do know it doesn't. I just used it as an excuse for doing it as I didn't want to have another time being off the internet. Also »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do ··· e_System No I can assure you that a DNS server does not have anything (in this situation) to do with a telephone. It is what recognizes and translates the IP of a server. Without one it does not allow you to connect to servers through IE, Chrome, Firefox etc.
Are you familiar with the concept of a, "simile"? Comparing DNS to a telephone directory is a common simile. Just as you look up a name in the phone book to find a person's phone number, your browser looks up a name on a DNS server in order to find a web site's IP address. It has nothing to do with translation. Hmm this is interesting. It seems my IP suddenly changed kicking me offline. Ah well thats one of the problems with the Static IP thing. I was hoping it woulda lasted longer then 3 days.
No. Not a problem with static IP addresses. I have had the same IP address for the last two-and-a-half years; a true static IP address assigned to me by my ISP. WOW assigns customer IP addresses dynamically; and that assignment can change (hence why it is called, "dynamic addressing"). The problem is with a foolish user trying to enter a dynamically assigned IP address as if it were static. At some unpredictable point it will change, breaking the user's Internet connection. At least it seems to have put me back in to MI according to google.
» www.quora.com/How-does-g ··· ess-work» whatismyipaddress.com/ge ··· accuracyGeolocation by IP address relies on databases. Neither WOW, nor any other ISP, incorporates geolcation into an IP address. Most times a web site consults with a third party maintainer of geolocation data. When (not if) an ISP renumbers their network, the databases need to be updated. If this is important to you, find out which service your web site is using, and contact that service to update your location. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 10:23 pm · (locked) |
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Don't worry junior, you don't have to teach me what DNS is. Perhaps you should read the link you posted. Here, I'll quote it for you. "An often-used analogy to explain the Domain Name System is that it serves as the phone book for the Internet by translating human-friendly computer hostnames into IP addresses." |
· actions · 2015-Jan-12 11:51 pm · (locked) |
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said by abcbca123321:I just went there and used CTRL+ F and seem to have found nothing of which you speak. I looked for "porn" "waste" and only found Key people
Steven Cochran.
From what i'm getting from this is to prove a point you went there and edited the post just so they could revert it in about 20 minutes. You'll never find revision history's in the articles because edit history's are on different pages all across Wikipedia. Every article has a "View History" tab. This is the one for Wide Open West. » en.wikipedia.org/w/index ··· =historyFWIW, I don't spend my time defacing Wikipedia pages. I have never edited the page for Wide Open West either, my main focus on local pages, ham radio and broadcast radio pages. You'll also note, that the last time the Wide Open West Wikipedia page was edited was about a month ago. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-13 3:05 pm · (locked) |
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· actions · 2015-Jan-13 3:08 pm · (locked) |
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This thread is fairly off topic and is splitting itself in half.
I would suggest creating a more focused conversation as it would be more appropriate for the forum dialogue that our site encourages. |
· actions · 2015-Jan-13 4:39 pm · (locked) |
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This topic has been closed. Reason: run its course |
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