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OHSrob

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electronically steerable directional switched antenna array

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a horrible drawing I made
I have further refined my idea for an implementation of a electronically steerable directional switched antenna array.

My old idea to switch it during the preamble decoding was fundamentally flawed and would require a re-write of the Atheros driver and hardware that I don't think exists yet.

To do this fast enough such a task would require a CPU that is at least 3ghz running a real time operating system and in the real world when you get it all loaded up and running a linux or bsd it would probably require closer to a 5-6GHZ cpu. Relays can also not switch that fast and I can't find something else that is appropriate for this function. Even in long mode the preamble just happens way too fast.

Speed is far less critical for the switching with my new idea of how to do it.

Have each antenna go to an 802.11 radio that is receive only just looking for station mac address's and recording the RSSI.

It will pass the RSSI info to the site transaction co-ordinator to determine the the direction of arrival. the site transaction co-coordinator controls the relays via GPIO. Information from receive radios would be sent to the site transaction co-coordinator over TCP.

The site co-coordinator would need its own ATH9K radio and a working TDMA implementation. It would use the right antenna for the right client's time slot.

When the center conductor gets high and the radio at the base is transmitting have relays that disconnect the receive only radio from the transmitting antenna in the array to not fry the receive only radios.

The things that look kinda like bullets are the receive only radio's with relays on the end connected to the center conductor. They would need power for switching like the relay boxes for switching the antennas from the AP. The power connections were not included in the diagram.

Someone please make a 2.4 GHz product that can do this, I don't know if I can get a working TDMA system developed and added to ATH9k on my own but im going to try.

If any other wisps here have any good programmers we should all work together to develop this system and open source it.

If a finished open source TDMA system was developed for us wisp's the vendor lockin ubiquiti has over us would be gone. We would be free to use anyone's devices that we choose and a new golden age of the wisp could be ushered in. Where all hardware vendors could be used and multiple vendors could be free to implement a free TDMA solution.

This would be as revolutionary as to the WISP industry as the introduction of the MS-DOS and the Compaq PC was to the computer industry.

This system would allow for a previously unprecedented amount of spectrum re-use since your TX duty cycle is switched among 6 different directions.

Since they terminated the SDK, sold me miles of bad wire and discontinued the nanobridge M5 to replace it with the nanobeam M5. I have really lost much of my faith in Ubiquiti as a company and I really don't trust them to get a fully competent product to market in a timely manor.

BelAir Networks and Nortel have already developed a similar system in the past but for mesh networks. As far as I know nobody has really done a switched antenna array before with a TDMA fixed wireless system.
lutful
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lutful

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said by OHSrob:

When the center conductor gets high and the radio at the base is transmitting have relays that disconnect the receive only radio from the transmitting antenna in the array to not fry the receive only radios.

You have the right idea ... but such tasks are done using specialized RF components.

For example, classic RF "circulator" or "duplexer" components allow direct connection to both TX and RX circuits, without any control circuit! They used to be large modules, but surface mount versions are being designed. See last item in first photo.

TX/RX switching ICs provide lots of digital control and some allow for separate filters and amplifiers on each path. See just one example in second photo. There are other RF components for this type of multi-sector setup. Any digital control tasks can be done at lightning speeds using a small FPGA.
OHSrob
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Such a switch may even be so fast that I only need one RX radio.
lutful
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lutful

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said by OHSrob:

Such a switch may even be so fast that I only need one RX radio.

If you want to connect single 2.4Ghz radio receiver port to 6 sector antennas, you can buy this board from Infineon.
OHSrob
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said by lutful:

said by OHSrob:

Such a switch may even be so fast that I only need one RX radio.

If you want to connect single 2.4Ghz radio receiver port to 6 sector antennas, you can buy this board from Infineon.

Would this switch be able to handle upwards of 24dbm of TX power if I wanted to use the same type of switch for my TX ?.

Or would I have to drop down to 10dbm and build a backwards pre-amp then band pass filter it to act as a power amplifier to get it back up to 24DBM ?

edit: I also want to add that you wouldn't have to just use this as a sector array.

You could also use 2.4ghz rocket dish's as spots to illuminate a small area where you have the most subscribers.

You could also make your own custom antennas that have unique radiation patterns to fit any need one might have for dealing with interference or dealing with dealing with maple trees.

edit: The sky is the limit with something like this and especially if something like Airselect could be tied into the TDMA scheduler you could deal with interference on a specific channel by using another channel for just one small slice of your 360 degree coverage area and duty cycle.

This system would solve all the issues that presently plague unlicensed wisps and would be even more valuable then even licensed radio spectrum.

Especially from the amount of spectrum re-use you would be able to do with having your entire duty cycle spread in just slices of time among different directions.
lutful
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lutful

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Some RF switching ICs can handle up to 30dBm, others only 15dBm, so always check the datasheet. There are models with 8 ports already in the market, and new designs are coming with 12 and 16 ports.
OHSrob
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God dam 30DBM a whole watt, That's way more power then I would ever need to pass through it.

Time to start reading some spec sheets.

Should I buy the parts from digikey or is there somewhere else you would recommend ?
lutful
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lutful

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You can buy eval boards and get free IC samples from Infineon, Hittite, Skyworks, and other companies.