Topic 'Which motherboard....' in forum 'PC Hardware'

Topic 'Which motherboard....' in forum 'PC Hardware' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Which-motherboard-2993305 en Wed, 23 Mar 2022 15:05:52 EDT Wed, 23 Mar 2022 15:05:52 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-3031882
Honestly, whatever performance difference there may be between it (AMD761) and even the newest bleeding-edge KT333 (or even KT400) it would be negligible, specially since AMD is stuck on the chip's bus speed.
I cannot justify (for myself) the premium I would pay for the KT333 when much cheaper and somewhat equally performing boards are out there.

PS: sorry for the thread hijacking, but I've been reading this post and was wondering when anyone would vote for the 761... :)
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I've tried others but came back to Asus. To me, its fast enough out of the box.
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its only 90 bucks at newegg.com
kr7a is 106 bucks

If all the issues and bugs are gone then 8kha+ is the most bang for the buck
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Guys, guys all he really needs (and wants) is the EPoX 8KHA+. All bugs worked out. Fantastic board. Not as good as the KR7A, but, it is extremely good performance wise. Very cost effective for what you get. Comes with 4-usb ports and drive cables. I've used over 100 of them, and personally use them for myself. The on-board debuger card is the best feature on any board period. Look at how much time and trouble it's saving people. Very trustworthy. Very stable. Very high performance, but not as good as the Abit KR7A. If you want a really good board, 8KHA+ is best choice. If you want the best, go with the KR7A, but if you want to pocket some $$$/upgrade to better component, then go with the 8KHA+.

I took TheHondaMan's advice and couldn't be more satisfied, There may be better motherboards, but this EPoX 8KHA+ is doing everything I would ever want to do.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-3026339 Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:23:40 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-3010833 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-3010833 Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:57:16 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-3010079
but, Soltek makes a really nice KT266A board, the SL-75DRV5
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It even has onboard SPDIF and 5.1 speaker EAX support! Save the $$ for that audigy and put it into a bigger monitor. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-3009849 Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:15:08 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-3008849 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-3008849 Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:06:32 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-3005409 said by TheHondaMan:

It certianly doesn't take the crown for overclockability, stability, nor reliability, but it sure takes the crown for the little extras that make MSI what it is.

Just curious - who do you have ranked ahead of MSI with regards to stability?
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also a side note...... Kat does not use PC2100 ram..... he uses samsung PC2700, just thought I'd share.Torinalth

correct, torinalth...kat used to use crucial pc2100 and has broken 3000 easy with it...but just love that samsung 2700 -

...another note...kat's mb is not stock - anymore...will not get past 3000+ very easily with stock mb no matter what you use
...unless pox-e with that 2.2v vcc and 3.2v vmem in the bios - and that is just a "factory mod" to kat...
tor - rem that 8k3a kt333 is almost as crippled as the iwill ali magic
...an me think the bios will never be fixed - cause the kt400's with 533 v-link are comin soon...
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EPoX now works fine w/Enermax PSUs. EPoX also has jumperless access to almost everything. Only 8K7A and older didnt. You know why? Award BIOS design couldn't handle the 'PoX's overclockability via BIOS. Complaints? again, only for those who live by the benchmark, as mainly many OCers do there. Abit is a better mainboard company as of today. But again, you pay for it. EPoX is about 8.5/10 and Abit is about 9.5/10.

As for Psychephylax, that MSI board is excellent. That board was designed for people like you. It certianly doesn't take the crown for overclockability, stability, nor reliability, but it sure takes the crown for the little extras that make MSI what it is. I have tried out that board, and it is great. Only complaint, is that reliability isn't so hot, some MSI boards (3) that I have used in PCs that I have sold just unexplainibly die after a little over a year, so it cost me $$$ b/c the MSI only have a 1-year warranty. Other than that, MSI is one of the most loaded boards that you can get at any price!
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Mine hasnt crashed on me, and its been the best mobo I ever used.
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you will be happy with that MSI good features and stable.... I would have suggested the Iwill ka266+, but I got here too late :)

oh as far as the reference to Kat's scores? since nobody else has gotten them..... I dont think it is fair to say "THIS IS WHY!!!!!" maybe when TC broke 3k, but even still.

also a side note...... Kat does not use PC2100 ram..... he uses samsung PC2700, just thought I'd share.

Torinalth
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said by LuckyBob:

said by Psychephylax:
Ok, I'm looking for more than..."This board rocks..." and "These suck!"

I need reasons for your answers

IS THIS A GOOD ENOUGH REASON????!!!!! :o
These are kat's scores with crucial pc2100 with over 200mhz FSB

LuckyBob, do you own a KR7A? Think not. You got an ASUS, and you hate it. Unless you really know the product, maybe bought more than 1, don't go around showing other people other people's rigs. If they want to show him their rigs/experiences, that's their business, not yours. The KR7A is a beautiful board, no doubt, but, the EPoX is close behind, and is much cheaper. The 8KHA+ isn't crap, it's a fine board along with the others. I particularly like the EPoX because they are a small company that cators to the overclocker, offers great performance and stability, along with BIOS and Customer support. EPoX truly does a great job for their size. They really want you as a customer. 3 hits in a row: 8K7A/+, 8KHA+, and 8K3A/+

Kat is a very experienced overclocker. I too have broken the 3000 score on that board. I am a very experienced user/overclocker. The extra $30 for the board gives you that advantage. Real-world performance is what really matters, and the extra $30 for that board does NOT show very much extra performance at all. I love my Abit, and I love my EPoX.

I'm not saying that they are all completely useless. But the kr7a seems like the best choice to me.... especially since its got that awesome BIOS which gives you jumperless access to almost everything. In the overclockers.com forum there have been waaaay too many complaints about epox for me to even consider it as an option.. (Enermax incompatibility, frying NBs etc.)
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Nice choice :)

By the way, what kind of vid card will you use?

For the monent a GeForce2MX (It's not a gaming machine) looking to upgrade to a Radeon 8500 All-In-One
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By the way, what kind of vid card will you use?
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The choice is made.............

I think you'll like it. That board's gotten some good reviews lately.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2994777 Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:31:00 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2994773 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2994773 Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:29:37 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2994680
»www.msicomputer.com/prod ··· _aru.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2994680 Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:19:09 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2994597 just my .02]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2994597 Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:12:01 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2994101
With a mild overclock (143 FSB at stock multiplier) they have been rock stable. No support issues - none needed. Many of the same "Plusses" that HondaMan listed. And the KT3Ultra RU has both USB 2.0 support and ATA133.
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said by Psychephylax:
Ok, I'm looking for more than..."This board rocks..." and "These suck!"

I need reasons for your answers

IS THIS A GOOD ENOUGH REASON????!!!!! :o
These are kat's scores with crucial pc2100 with over 200mhz FSB

ECS K7S5A will fit your needs, it's a great board. And it's not expensive at all.

I don't think that he wants to gamble on quality. ECS=budget. Plain and simple. Budget quality, budget support, budget performance, budget stability. I will never buy an ECS board again simply because they don't have great support, nor fantastic reviews. I have had purchased 20, but 1 was doa and the other was dead after 1 week. Sorry the extra $20-30 for an EPoX is way worth it!
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Pros:
High-Performance
Large space for HSFs
Low Price
Good Quality
Great Support (better than Abits!)
All bugs worked out (same as Abit)
Great over clocking

Cons:
No Ata/133 (only Maxtor supports it, not great performance incrase)
No 4 DDR SLots
Not as great performance, but it's really splitting hairs unless you live by the benchmarks.
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- Antonio Changanaqui -]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2993847 Tue, 09 Apr 2002 21:54:07 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2993518 4 DDR DIMMS
ATA133 (you can get raid)

Enough space for the largest socket A HSFs

Great bandwidth
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I do not plan on bringing this board to it's knees to see how far it can go :)

I just need a nice stable...feature-full board that can handle expandability, won't be trash in a month and is easy to set up...Extra goodies are a bonus
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Ok, I'm looking for more than..."This board rocks..." and "These suck!"

I need reasons for your answers

IS THIS A GOOD ENOUGH REASON????!!!!! :o
These are kat's scores with crucial pc2100 with over 200mhz FSB
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What types of hardware do you plan on using (PCI, ISA, AGP, USB, Firewire)?
What type of RAM do you plan on using (DDR2100 +), PC133?
Do you want a RAID setup?
What CPU make\model do you plan on using?
Is the ability to upgrade the MB in the future important or do you want a "throw away" board? What power supply do you currently have or will you upgrade? Will this MB be used in a gaming, general use, or video editing system?
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I need reasons for your answers]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2993421 Tue, 09 Apr 2002 21:14:39 EDT Re: Which motherboard.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Which-motherboard-2993409
All the others are crap compared to the kr7a
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Which one would you pick and why?
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