Topic '[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?' in forum 'Rogers' - dslreports.com

Re: [Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:43:57 EDT

bigMc posted :

Don't you need one NIC for the WAN (that will connect to your cable modem) and one NIC to connect into your switch to get to your LAN? And both of those NICs will need to support Gigabit.

No. The same NIC can carry both WAN and LAN traffic. The WAN can be assigned to VLAN5 and the LAN to VLAN10. All the devices (cable modem, gateway/router, PCs, Access Point, etc) will be connected to the switch. The switch must support VLAN tagging so it can tag packets accordingly. As you can see, this is why having two NICs makes the setup easier.

With a single NIC, you can get even more exotic and create a VMs with virtual NICs to host your gateway.

Re: [Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 14 Apr 2015 21:13:38 EDT

wayner92 posted :

said by bigMc:

Multi-NICs makes the setup easier but is not an absolute requirement. If your x86 device can only support a single NIC, then you will need a switch with VLAN support.

Don't you need one NIC for the WAN (that will connect to your cable modem) and one NIC to connect into your switch to get to your LAN? And both of those NICs will need to support Gigabit.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Sat, 11 Apr 2015 10:15:31 EDT

bigMc posted : A lot of the open source router software are Linux based, but not all. OpenElec is a media center for HTPC setup and TMK does not have any routing function (Since it is Linux based, you could add additional packages to do whatever you want, but out of the box, network routing was not one of the intended purpose).

The underlying OS is irrelevant for most users since most of the management is done via a GUI. I personally use pfSense which is based on FreeBSD and would be an ease to setup for most users on this thread. DD-WRT, which is commonly used on these high priced SoC routers also have a x86 build.

A fast process is not necessarily required. For simply routing/NAT functions, any recent x86 (Atom, Celeron, etc) would more that suffice. For perspective, I was running pfSense on a PIII 733MHz (Yes! and PIII from 1999) and it max out my 100M LAN connection. I didn't do any official test, but I suspect the NICs were the bottleneck. I have since switch to a Pentium D PC from 2006 (this PC was thrown out by a friend) and it is able to max out two Gig NICs on the LAN. It also runs site-to-site VPN tunnels, VPN servers, Snort, Squid and a bunch of traffic monitoring tools.

Multi-NICs makes the setup easier but is not an absolute requirement. If your x86 device can only support a single NIC, then you will need a switch with VLAN support.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:46:03 EDT

wayner92 posted :

said by bigMc:

Have you considered using a x86 device as your primary router?

So do you just run a Linux variant as the router? Isn't that a lot of work to configure and maintain or can you get an all in one distribution, kind of like OpenElec? To be honest I don't care about WAP functionality as I have a network of Ubiquiti Unifis in my house as WAPs.

And to be able to handle a 325Mbps WAN connection would you need a relatively fast processor? I guess another issue is that it is hard to do this in a SFF PC as you need at least two NICs don't you, one (or more) for the LAN and one for the WAN.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:12:32 EDT

imtiax posted : Still same results . :(

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:13:48 EDT

bigMc posted : wayner92,
Have you considered using a x86 device as your primary router? I find these overpriced consumer SoC routers to be nothing but paper weight. Then again, my wrt54Gs are perfectly fine for my wireless browsing needs. Anything that needs to max out my net connection is hard wired.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Wed, 08 Apr 2015 16:52:58 EDT

sashwa posted : I understand that but thought I would let all of you know in case some of you didn't know about the new forum. It was only started last month. That's all.

I have no problem with troubleshooting the router in this forum for Rogers users.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Wed, 08 Apr 2015 16:43:52 EDT

wayner92 posted :

said by sashwa:

Just an FYI - We now have an ASUS forum.

I think this forum would have more users who would have experince with this specific issue since not that many ISPs offer download speeds over 250Mbps where this problem, if it is a problem, shows up. Rogers offers a 250 Mbps service but the actual speed that you get is more like 325 Mbps. I actually did start a similar thread on another forum where there is a very active Asus router subforum but didn't get many hits as no one seemed to have download speeds above 250 Mbps.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Wed, 08 Apr 2015 16:35:19 EDT

sashwa posted : Just an FYI - We now have an ASUS forum.

»ASUS

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Wed, 08 Apr 2015 16:22:51 EDT

mozerd posted :

said by imtiax:

Same result as I posted before.

10.10.3 was released today. Check to see if your MBA results have improved with this update.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:50:01 EDT

Wheemer8 posted : I don't have the ACR

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:42:59 EDT

mozerd posted : If you have the CGN3ACR try the following:

Disconnect the power cable from the Hitron and Waite for 2 minutes THEN. Reconnect the power cable and Waite for 10 Minutes THEN check to see if 192.168.100.1 works for you. If it does not work for you then just be patient it will happen,

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:26:04 EDT

Wheemer8 posted : I am in bridged mode, but I keep checking 192.168.100.1 in hopes that it will work.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:58:14 EDT

Acrimonius posted : Just a head's up.

Some pretty decent sales prices on the NETGEAR Nighthawk X6 AC3200 Tri-Band WiFi Router R8000 and the Asus AC2400 RT-AC87U Dual-Band Wireless Gigabit Router at Staples Canada this week.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:06:19 EDT

wayner92 posted : Has anyone with a CGN3 got a firware update recently?

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:03:00 EDT

nekkidtruth posted :

said by wayner92:

So then Hitron/Rogers have not fixed the 192.168.100.1 bug for the CGN3? Did this bug ever exist in the CGN3ACR?

Yes. I was not able to access 192.168.100.1 through my Asus n66U until this firmware update. Now I can. I have the CGN3ACR. I had also tried the workaround by telnet'ing into the n66u and pointing the address with no luck. So it was definitely having the issue.

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[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:18:54 EDT

wayner92 posted : So then Hitron/Rogers have not fixed the 192.168.100.1 bug for the CGN3? Did this bug ever exist in the CGN3ACR?

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:37:57 EDT

damir posted : I think this is specific firmware (only) for CGN3ACR, don't think you will see this on CGN3.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:34:44 EDT

wayner92 posted : People with CGN3s non-AC version have received it? It started rolling out 12 days ago - I would have thought that I would have received it by now.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:32:03 EDT

damir posted : probably then:
»[Modem/Router] New CGN3ACR Firmware - 4.2.8.12

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:23:16 EDT

wayner92 posted : When did firmware 4.2.8.12 start rolling out? I don't appear to have received it yet as I cannot get to 192.168.100.1.

I am in bridge mode so I can't easily tell what firmware I have unless I can access the web UI. But I haven't seen my internet connection down for about 5 consecutive minutes or so which would be typical of a firmware upgrade or at least a gateway reboot.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 31 Mar 2015 08:17:45 EDT

mozerd posted :

said by imtiax:

Same result as I posted before.

A fix may be in the works ... when 10.10.3 get released rumor is that wifi AC performance may have improved. info may not be reliable. :)

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:18:32 EDT

mozerd posted : With firmware version 4.2.8.12 access to the UI has been fixed. With this firmware version in place NO need for routing commands. Hitron finally learned how to advertise 192.168.100.1 as a special reserved address for the UI in BRIDGE mode.

I do not know if the CGN3 has been fixed but the CGN3ACR with firmware 4.2.8.12 now works properly insofar as the UI is concerned.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Thu, 26 Mar 2015 09:27:15 EDT

wayner92 posted : Did you have to enter the routing commands to be able to access the UI? What is the new firmware version?

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Thu, 26 Mar 2015 09:14:12 EDT

Wheemer8 posted : I wonder how long it will take for all the modems to receive the new firmware...

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:30:27 EDT

imtiax posted : Just tested 192.168.100.1, now i can view modem stats without going through any hassle :D

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:30:19 EDT

imtiax posted : Same result as I posted before.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:19:43 EDT

dallas1 posted : :)

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:00:11 EDT

mozerd posted : YES, looks like HITRON finally fixed the 192.168.100.1 bug. Nice to see the login page in Bridge mode.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:37:19 EDT

dallas1 posted : im now able to log into the modem in bridge mode :)

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 24 Mar 2015 08:29:38 EDT

mozerd posted :

said by imtiax:

Just picked it up at the store, upgraded the frimware, and I'm still out of luck.

On your Netgear R7000 can you confirm your 5G wireless configuration settings.
Make sure that your configuration is as follows:

for SSID: imtiax5G

should be unique ... not the same SSID as the 2G so use something like I show above. The Key point is to easily discern which wireless system [2G or 5G] is being used.

for Channel: use 161

for Mode: use Up to 1300Mbps

Now make sure that your MBA is connected to the 5G network and if so test your speeds and report back.

Your 2G configuration settings could be as follows:

SSID: imtiax2G
for Channel: 1 or 6 or 11 [do not use Auto]
for Mode: use Up to 600Mbps

You could also test your 2G throughput and compare to the 5G results --- just make sure that you confirm on your MBA which SSID you're connected too.

said by imtiax:

Edit: I think this is the reason why my macbook air's wifi isn't up to par.

The rate limiting issue seems to impact Apple's AFP and from my tests does not impact traffic from sites like speedtest.net or speedcheck.rogers.com/en.html ... however my tests were not exhaustive due to time and resource limitations.
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[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Tue, 17 Mar 2015 04:45:39 EDT

mozerd posted : My MBA is 2014.

Tests on Rogers 150 plan show full throughput for wired and wireless .... this is using either the Netgear R8000 or the Apple Extreme Time Capsule.

However, this does not help you since your on the 250 Plan. I do concur with the finding in the article you linked too »www.anandtech.com/show/7 ··· 3inch/10

The Anandtech article was written and posted in June 24, 2013 so Apple has had lots of time to fix this specific issue. I may run Wireshark and see if OS X 10.10.2 scales the TCP window size beyond 64KB and if so that means that they did fix the reported issue -- will try to do that this weekend.

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[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:56:43 EDT

imtiax posted : Okay. What year is your MBA?

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:26:02 EDT

mozerd posted : i'm going to be running some test this evening on my MBA and will report back

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:01:37 EDT

imtiax posted : The latest version, OSX Yosemite Version 10.10.2

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:21:56 EDT

mozerd posted :

said by imtiax:

Edit: I think this is the reason why my macbook air's wifi isn't up to par.

what version of OS-X is running on your MBA ?

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:00:44 EDT

imtiax posted : Just picked it up at the store, upgraded the frimware, and I'm still out of luck. :(

This is while I'm sitting right next to the router.

»i.imgur.com/ih3IXlI.png

»i.imgur.com/lbruX8y.png

Edit: I think this is the reason why my macbook air's wifi isn't up to par.

»www.cnet.com/news/macboo ··· rottled/

»www.anandtech.com/show/7 ··· 3inch/10

Apples software rate limits :(

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:50:35 EDT

mozerd posted :

said by Datalink:

Without access to the driver code, the only way to really know what is going on between the two is to watch the wireless management message exchange between the two devices and ascertain from those frames, what the router messaging indicates and how the Macbook Air responds.

Agree. and that kind of analysis is time consuming and I usually like to get paid for that kind of work. :)
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[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:45:24 EDT

Datalink posted : Understand what your saying. All I'm saying is, other products, including apple products can apparently connect using two 20 Mhz channels in the 5 Ghz Band. In this particular case, the Macbook Air is not using 2 channels despite the wifi information that it presents to the user. The wireless throughput, as you point to, absolutely indicates that a single 20 Mhz channel is used to connect to the router, not the 40 Mhz channels that its indicating it is using. So, who's at fault here? The router wireless driver, that allows it to connect to a multitude of other devices correctly, or the singular Macbook Air that doesn't want to play. Without access to the driver code, the only way to really know what is going on between the two is to watch the wireless management message exchange between the two devices and ascertain from those frames, what the router messaging indicates and how the Macbook Air responds. Without one or the other, its all speculation.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:35:36 EDT

mozerd posted :

said by Datalink:

So, the Macbook Air does it right and every other product is wrong?

No, Apple does not get it right across all router platforms but they usually get it right for most. There are some issues that continue to plague the MacBook Air and Gateways like the Sagemon and a few other brands.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:31:50 EDT

mozerd posted :

said by imtiax:

Would I be able to max out my connection with that?

Excellent choice [also known as the R7000] and Yes you will get excellent wired and wireless performance. Make sure to load Firmware Version 1.0.4.18

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:26:01 EDT

imtiax posted : Hey guys,

I was wondering if purchasing this would resolve my Wireless issue.

»www.staples.ca/en/Netgea ··· _1_20001

Would I be able to max out my connection with that?

It's on sale.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:19:47 EDT

mozerd posted :

said by Datalink:

but, for some reason the Macbook doesn't want to play......

I have clients using the RT-N66U with MacBook Pro's and MacBook Air's [2013] and no issue with wireless connectivity .... but wireless throughput is another matter. imtiax is complaining about wireless throughput [speed] ..... and the Asus drivers are the issue --- issue is not with the MBA or the MBP.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:10:01 EDT

Datalink posted : The "Merlin firmware wireless driver" doesn't explain why people are able to connect devices and laptops, including other Apple brand products to routers made by Apple, Netgear, Asus, etc, but, for some reason the Macbook Air doesn't want to play...... So, the Macbook Air does it right and every other product is wrong?

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 07:17:53 EDT

mozerd posted :

said by imtiax:

My router is ASUS RT-N66U running the latest Merlin frimware.

Merlin's firmware is good but the wireless driver is not --- since the wireless driver is proprietary Merlin has no ability to tweak it.
Your MacBook Air is performing properly .... if you install the ASUS stock firmware [Version 3.0.0.4.376.3861 ] for the RT-N66U your wireless performance may improve somewhat however the wireless driver is still the same driver used under Merlin and its wireless performance is not optimized but definitely would be better.

As I have stated in other threads I've posted in, wireless performance in 3rd party firmware is usually not as good as in stock firmware. There are technical reasons for that but I will not go into that other than to state its due to the proprietary nature of the wireless driver and the policies implemented by the CHIP maker.

You can get much superior wireless performance by using Netgear products like the R6300, R7000, R8000 or from ASUS RT-AC68U, RT-AC87U, RT-AC3200 .... regardless of whether its Netgear or Asus STOCK firmware will yield superior wireless performance.

OR you can get the Apple AirPort Extreme [current model has AC] and you will get excellent wireless performance.
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[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Mon, 16 Mar 2015 00:55:16 EDT

imtiax posted : Tried everything besides reinstalling, still no luck.

»discussions.apple.com/th ··· tstart=0

Found a similar thread, but his thing was showing 20Mhz whereas mine shows 40Mhz.
»i.imgur.com/XJJpTqt.png

And no, there are no drivers that fixes this.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Sun, 15 Mar 2015 22:32:14 EDT

Datalink posted : Frustrating to say the least. Is there a bug in OSx when it comes to 5 Ghz networks? Are there newer drivers that would solve the problem? From the N66U image, it should work. You can't be the only one experiencing this problem. :(

Have a look at this:

»brettterpstra.com/2013/1 ··· ook-air/

»osxdaily.com/2014/10/25/ ··· osemite/

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:48:36 EDT

imtiax posted : Hi.

The control channel and extension channel are set to auto by default. I didn't change them.

»i.imgur.com/GKRYBtr.png

There is no setting on my MacBook that lets me control what width it will use, but according to various websites the network card in the Macbook Air does support 40Mhz on 5GHZ

Edit: After some testing and forcing 40Mhz on the router, it looks like the Macbook is using the 20Mhz band. Even though my MSC index is 14 now I'm still getting speeds consistent with the 20Mhz band. :(

Did some research and some people say it works fine if i run windows on my mac, but not in osx (something to do with apples drivers).

That's unfortunate.

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:04:29 EDT

Datalink posted : There are a few inconsistencies with the data that is presented. The first thing that comes up is in the Stats. It indicates an MSC Index of 13. If you look at the following figure, you will see that MCS 13 corresponds to a max rate of 104 to 115.6 Mb/s using a single 20 Mhz wide channel. That is right in line with what you are seeing on a wifi download test.

»communityforums.rogers.c ··· 74F8D75B

The reported channel in use in the stats is 161 which in 802.11n is 20 Mhz wide. The channel width below it indicates 40 Mhz wide. If that channel width were really true, you would be seeing a max rate of 216 to 240 Mb/s for MCS 13. The channel should indicate something like "161 -157" to indicate that the adjacent channel below it is being used as the co-channel. Maybe its the way that the data is presented, but it does lead to some confusion. What is the N66U set for in terms of the channel in use? Is it set for 161 or 157 and is it set for 20/40 Mhz or locked down to 20 Mhz only? Also, is the Extension channel set to Auto? I'm looking at my RT-AC68U 5 Ghz network control panel, which I believe will be the same except for the channel width. The AC68U has a 20/40/80 selection as its 802.11ac capable.

Here is a link to the channels as they exist today, including the 802.11ac channels. Note that the 40 Mhz wide channels are numbered according to the mid channel numbers, and not the base channel. The 40 Mhz numbering appears to be original to the 802.11n spec. I don't have a copy of the 802.11n spec, so I can't say with 100% certanty that the spec labels the channel numbers that way. So, what you should be seeing for a 40 Mhz wide channel with your data is channel 159, indicating that either base channel 157 along with channel 161 is in use, or that base channel 161 along with channel 157 is in use. The base channel could be either one.

»forums.inssider.com/show ··· -the-USA

Can you have a look at the 5 Ghz settings in the N66U to see how they are currently set? It might be worth loading inSSIDer just to see how it reports the channels in use versus what you see currently. Is there a selectable setting for the wifi adapter in the Macbook for either 20 Mhz or 20/40 Mhz?

[Modem/Router] Re: Anyone using Rogers 250 with an Asus RT-N66U?

Sun, 15 Mar 2015 19:18:55 EDT

imtiax posted : My router is ASUS RT-N66U running the latest Merlin frimware.

I use 5GHZ Channel 161.
I'm the only 5GHZ Network in the area.

Stats: »i.imgur.com/umvzwJe.png
Other Networks: »i.imgur.com/gperJcF.png

»i.imgur.com/plLd30c.png

I'm on a MacBook Air so I used WIFI Scanner to get all that information.