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Re: Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:16:30 EDT

huntermcdole posted : It's about a 3x5 shower. no idea on the mud base, all I know is there was issues with water damage prior to us buying the place (it was missed in the inspection as the garage door covered it when open) Both of the bathrooms we have upstairs are above the garage, so not sure which one it was. I repaired the grout around the tub and on the floor next to it as that was cracked and missing in places. The shower had some cracks on the walls so I redid that and put a thin layer on the floor to make sure there wasn't any cracks I didn't see. I also resealed all of the grout.
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Re: Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:52:07 EDT

67845017 posted : I was going to suggest this as well. There's a lot of debate on the subject, but I can't find a really good argument against it.

Re: Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:46:47 EDT

anon posted : Grinder is bout $20. - $80 if you dont have one alreadyx diamond blade about $20. generic $30 name brand.

Another option is to just ADD another layers of newly sloped thinset and new tiles ON TOP of existing tiles. Minor problem with that idea is you will have to add another drain flange, new, to match the new raised height of the new tile.

Re: Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:40:55 EDT

67845017 posted : Besides, 4x4 are not too big, regardless. I assume you don't have a mud base, or do you know?

When we had our shower floor done in a new bath installation, there were some dips that occurred in the general downward slope towards the drain. Water would pool in those dips. When they fixed it, they tore up all of the tile from the drain to the end of the shower base. They only left the tiles on the half that were on the other side of the drain.

Without knowing how big the area is, pricing is hard to say. But I don't see that $850 is cheap. We have a double shower and the guy broke up all of the tile, leveled it out with more concrete and then retiled. The entire job didn't even really take two days. This was on a mud base.

Re: Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:40:40 EDT

anon posted : Options n thoughts:

Double check that floor of room is level, and subfloor under shower not deteriorated.

To take out old tiles use a right angle grinder with diamond blade,grinding out old grout, then using thin gentle sharp tools like putty knife to unstick the cemented tiles, slowly, so base cement n membrane not stressed.

New tiles are cheap so plan on that instead of fussing with old ones. But if all olds come up ok, use the diamond wheel to remove the last bits of thinset or grout from the old tiles.

When old tiles are out, just use extra cement or thinset to make the slopes as needed. Test with marbles or water, before putting tiles again.

If everything diy removal works with no problems, figure $20. for tiles plus $20 thinset, plus $10. grout, plus 2 hours labor, an hour for removal an hour for reinstall. The diamond blade also do tile trimming if needed.

Re: Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:37:07 EDT

robbin posted :

said by huntermcdole:

Tiles have been down for over 8 years so doubtful they can be removed easily, and they are right at the wall.

If you can't remove just the offending tiles then you will have to remove the entire floor. Normally this also requires removal of the mud base which will expose the liner. At that point you can assess if you need to replace the liner also. Replacing the liner involves removing at least one row of wall tile in addition to the entire floor.

Re: Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:05:19 EDT

huntermcdole posted : Yeah that is what I am afraid of. I wish I knew more about who built the shower, the general contractor is out of business so I can't seem to find anything. I knew the $250 was low, but didn't realize the $850 was. We also had another tile place come out and tell us it was just an issue with the tiles being too big (4"x4") and they would remove and replace them for $500 (including tiles) but I figured this was a BS one since I took a large level to the floor and could see the tiles are lower near the wall
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Re: Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:57:39 EDT

huntermcdole posted : Tiles have been down for over 8 years so doubtful they can be removed easily, and they are right at the wall.
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Re: Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:48:42 EDT

robbin posted : Could you just remove the low tiles and raise them? That could potentially be done without damaging the liner.

Re: Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:44:16 EDT

Msradell posted : Damaging the existing membrane is certainly a distinct possibility with a plan that you have quotes for. The biggest factor will be how the shower was built originally. The quote you have actually felt very low what you are going to probably end up getting into with this project. It obviously was constructed incorrectly to begin with and redoing it is going to become a major project.
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Repairing slope on tiled shower floor

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:39:15 EDT

huntermcdole posted : So I've got an issue in my shower where some of the tiles near the wall are lower than the tiles around them. This is causing water to pool there instead of going towards the drain. I've had a few places come in and give me estimates on fixing it, they range from $250 (unlicensed) - $850 (licensed handyman), not including tile. Their plans are to remove the existing tile, grind/morter to get the slope corrected and then put new tile down & grout.

Now I was doing research last night and came across places that said you shouldn't just fix the floor as removing the tile could damage the liner and then you would have to repair it. Is this really an issue or just people being over concerned? If we went the way of re-doing the entire shower we where thinking of Doing it ourselves, but we have no tile experience so is that a really bad idea?

Another option we have is replace the floor with an acrylic shower floor. We had a place come in and give us an estimate on that and they said $2,550.

Thanks,
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