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H2 being rebranded as ViceI know many here have been hoping for Verizon to add H2 HD. You may change your mind now. It appears H2 is going goodbye next year. » variety.com/2015/tv/news ··· 1483429/ |
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Yes, I read that same article. That stinks. |
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 bohratomOne day my Jersey Giants will win again
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Sad to say as H2 was what the History Channel use to be with running Historical documentaries and NOT reality TV. RIP  |
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Yep goodbye history programming and hello documentaries. |
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They always take away the good educational channels, or shows. |
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And then finally they will add the HD channel after this rebrand. Too little, too late. |
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Yep good educational programming and shows for kids especially have gone the way of the dodo. |
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That'd be funny if it weren't almost certainly true. |
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thetick
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H2 is not really educational, more like ridiculous historical speculation. 
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bsangs
join:2002-08-21
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bsangs
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2015-Apr-29 9:39 am
said by thetick:H2 is not really educational, more like ridiculous historical speculation. Yeah, no kidding. Not sure what channel the others were watching, but every time I put it on, it's certainly not showing anything I'd consider educational by any means. |
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There had been rumours of HLN becoming Vice, before H2. So does Verizon now add H2 / Vice Jan '16) in HD now ... or do we wait? |
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Vice is Excellent. Real, raw news, as opposed to the scewed bullsh*t news on TV now.
Check out their You Tube channel................... |
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While this stinks, it didn't seem like H2 would EVER get added in HD. I expect VICE will, and yes, VICE is a fantastic program on the web and HBO!!! Nobody is doing docs and news coverage the way they are, without left/right pundits or fluff. |
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I just recently discovered Vice on HBO and it is indeed a great program. I'm now trying to catch up on some of the past episodes that cover stories I'm interested in. I'm a bit skeptical of this new network though. I'm sure Vice will maintain it's contract with HBO (they have a daily show starting in the fall), so I'm really wondering what kind of programming the new network will air. I really hope it's not like the amateurish documentary stuff that used to air on Current TV. |
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History has already started showing some of the H2 shows like the new season of Ancient Aliens and the Universe. Was wondering why they made that decision. Hopefully History will become a better mix of reality and documentaries once H2 is rebranded. Not that I consider ancient aliens a documentary, interesting but they jump to the alien conclusion at the drop of a hat lol and sell us humans short. Vice would be a great add, looking forward to it. At his point I can't think of any other channels I want that I don't have other than the rest of the premium movie channels in HD. |
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Well the revamp is not happening until next year. You're going to see more and more of this, as networks are threatened by a la carte, in which no one will want to pay for stale programming. |
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Re: H2 being rebranded as ViceYou bring up a really good point I hadn't thought about. If the networks are unable to get al-la-carte programming pulled (and due to contracts; they have some pull there); this will then take away all the incentive they have to push the stale programming they do. I figure the only reason I see the same show in repeats aired all day long is a "well, you've only got so many options of people running the same crap".
If they're forced to actually compete for viewers...then this could mean a shift to less filler...but it could also mean a switch to even more advertisements. TBS and other networks are already speeding programming up artifically to jam in one more commercial.
Of course, al-la-carte could end that if people decide "I'm not paying this much for a channel that just shows more advertisements." |
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2015-Apr-30 12:46 pm
said by dewdude:You bring up a really good point I hadn't thought about. If the networks are unable to get al-la-carte programming pulled (and due to contracts; they have some pull there); this will then take away all the incentive they have to push the stale programming they do. I figure the only reason I see the same show in repeats aired all day long is a "well, you've only got so many options of people running the same crap".
If they're forced to actually compete for viewers...then this could mean a shift to less filler...but it could also mean a switch to even more advertisements. TBS and other networks are already speeding programming up artifically to jam in one more commercial.
Of course, al-la-carte could end that if people decide "I'm not paying this much for a channel that just shows more advertisements." I see things the exact opposite. A-la-carte inevitably means fewer overall viewers of the network, so that translates to less revenue, making it less likely you will see better, original programming. The reason networks push "stale" programming (like Law & Order reruns) is because shows like that appeal to a broad audience, and that's what brings in the most potential viewers. |
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This really is not a la carte, This is how cable companies sold channel packages back in the 80's. Nothing new about this. Nothing going to change and TBS has done that for years. They are already being sued by ESPN about the channel offerings so this might not even last. When I can pick exactly what channels I want than you can call it a la carte. |
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to Timothy28
Given that the shows that are attracting "viewers" are really the same old crap over and over again, I don't see how a la carte solves any "stale" programming. Reruns are popular. Witness the repeats over and over again of house flipping shows. |
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So it went from History International to H2 and now to Vice? Another useless channel. |
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to Timothy28
I watch H2 occasionally. Far too often it has really bad pixelation and freezing. Annoying as hell. |
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Ironically, I just met Shane Smith (mr. VICE) last night at a NYC event. He couldn't talk much because his Uber was lost. |
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said by Rick4769:So it went from History International to H2 and now to Vice? Another useless channel. I reserve the right to believe this may be a useful channel (assuming FIOS actually adds it in HD?). I like their show on HBO. I have my criticism about some of the episodes, but on the whole I find the reporting and the subjects they tackle to be worthwhile. Not sure how that half-hour once-a-week will translate to an entire channel's worth of programming though? |
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said by sbernstein5:said by Rick4769:So it went from History International to H2 and now to Vice? Another useless channel. I reserve the right to believe this may be a useful channel (assuming FIOS actually adds it in HD?). I like their show on HBO. I have my criticism about some of the episodes, but on the whole I find the reporting and the subjects they tackle to be worthwhile. Not sure how that half-hour once-a-week will translate to an entire channel's worth of programming though? It's going to be a 5 day-a-week show starting in the fall, on HBO. Will the Vice channel replay those? Or just put their name on 'Cops' type shows, with loud graphics? |
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