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spfirman
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[Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro & earlier Gigabit Deployments

Anyone know if Comcast has actually started installs? I live in the west palm beach, fl market announced for deployment this month. So far phone agents don't know anything of the service. I've been told by different agents, 2016, June and it'll be in the system tomorrow. None had even heard of the service before I inquired and they did a bit of research, so I went to out local sales office to inquire in person. There I had to show them the press release, to which they simply said its not yet available in the market. Seems like this was a pure fiber to the press release hail marry announcement to try to salvage the dead merger.

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Report actual receipt of Gigabit service here -> »[Speed] Report Gigabit Pro ( Fiber To The Home / FTTH ) Service Here

Side discussion in this thread, please. Keep it on topic. If you have questions or suggestions, please IM Sunny .

We need to consolidate all discussion about Gigabit Pro to one topic, all discussion which is not confirmed report of availability in a particular area. The report topics are now posted and stickied.

See also these now closed topics ->
»[Speed] 2 Gbps Coming to SE Florida
»[Speed] Chicago getting Gigabit Pro later this Month
»[Speed] Gigabit Pro May be coming to Portland
»[Speed] Gigabit Pro coming to Denver
»[Speed] Comcast to offer Gigabit Pro in Minneapolis/St. Paul
»[Speed] Comcast 2 Gbps Fiber to the Home
»Reduced latency with Extreme 250 service
»[Plan] Extreme 505 Mbps for $400
»extreme 505
»[Speed] Comcast Gigabit pro for Nashville available to order
»Email stating gigabit is on the way to Woodstock, GA
»[Install] Gigabit Pro install in an MDU
»Comparing Comcast Gigabit to other high speed ISPs
»[Plan] DOCSIS Gigabit Service Email (Marietta, GA)

Note this new side discussion topic for the DOCSIS 3.1 Gigabit deployment > »[Plan] Side Discussion on DOCSIS 3.1 Gigabit service

Johkal will post new stickied topic for those who wish to report actual install of DOCSIS 3.1 Gigabit service. Watch for it in the stickied section at top of the forum list.

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Snowcat
join:2004-02-02
Nashville, TN

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Re: [Speed] Gigabit Pro

Since they haven't even announced the price yet, I can't imagine it has started anywhere yet. That seems to be the trend, announce first and then get around to it a few months later.

tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA

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Re: [Speed] Gigabit Pro - WA Availability Announcement

The announcement for Washington state said "available now" but I'm sure that you have to call in as it will need a site survey /check* to be sure you actually are in "close proximity" (1/3) of a fiber access point.

*Engineering probably has maps and lists of all the KNOWN qualified homes,so the survey may just be a DB check, but I can't see them commiting to any unlisted home without at least a driveby "Can we reach that?" to spot the oddball "Nope!" places. (paved private driveway with no RoW or conduit in place, etc.) depending on if you pay part of the actual install (instead of a flat $250-1000 fee for everyone) each offer might be a semi custom quote.
Flat fees are usually easier to offer, but piss off the guy one or two poles away from a fiber split having to pay the same as someone at the outer edge of the available zone.
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said by tshirt:

The announcement for Washington state said "available now"

My bad...2/2 is available this summer, "Extreme 250, a new 250 Mbps Internet speed tier with immediate availability for Washington customers. "

»www.marketwatch.com/stor ··· _twitter
spfirman
join:2002-10-25
Jupiter, FL

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Re: [Speed] Gigabit Pro - Tentative Launch Date

Posted inquiry in Comcast forums.

Answer was:

ComcastZach
Official Employee
Comcast Approved! We are here to Help.
Member Since: 03-31-2015
Posts: 685
Looking to try to launch this on 5/28
Oedipus
join:2005-05-09
San Mateo, CA

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Looking to try? I'm inclined to start considering possibly being mildly unconvinced by that timetable.

NOCMan
MadMacHatter
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join:2004-09-30
Colorado Springs, CO

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Re: [Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro - Upgrade or New Tier?

Is 250 a upgrade from 150 on a different tier or are they bringing our speeds up?

Cjaiceman
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join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV

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Extreme 250 is a new tier for $149. The Extreme 150 package is not being upgraded or changed.

why60loss
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join:2012-09-20

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Re: [Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro - Price

said by Cjaiceman:

Extreme 250 is a new tier for $149. The Extreme 150 package is not being upgraded or changed.

That is interesting. 250/25 for $149 or $299 for 2000/2000.

Kind of disappointing to see pricing like that though for the 250 tier.
kucharsk
join:2001-03-30
Louisville, CO

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Why, I was paying $115/month for Extreme 150, so an extra $34/month for 100 Mbps faster service doesn't seem that bad at all.

iNick
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join:2012-12-11
Joliet, IL

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Exactly how I feel but I have Extreme 105, But I'll be going with AT&T GigaPower once it's in my area.
cablejoe
join:2002-01-15
Las Vegas, NV

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Re: [Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro

There's obviously been a great deal of discussion about this. However, to date there has been no mention of this product being field-tested or any areas having infrastructure in place to support it. This isn't a product where the company simply adds a few routers or servers and flips a switch to make it active; it will require a major overhaul of the headend and plant architecture, and largely abandons the current HFC architecture model.

We've all seen the timelines and target dates mentioned in the various press releases....but considering the lack of information that's out there, I suspect it will be at *least* 4-6 months before we hear of this product actually going live anywhere. And the widespread and large-scale deployment implied by their various press releases will take *years*.

Tobin
join:2003-09-21
Burlingame, CA

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Re: [Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro - Price

said by kucharsk:

Why, I was paying $115/month for Extreme 150, so an extra $34/month for 100 Mbps faster service doesn't seem that bad at all.

Or you could retain the exact same download speeds by downgrading to Blast and saving $35-45 depending on your promotion. That's the major problem I have with Extreme 150 pricing. It doesn't fit anywhere in the new California service tier structure.
kucharsk
join:2001-03-30
Louisville, CO

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I am Internet-only so I don't get promo pricing.

Here in Colorado "Blast" doesn't get you 150 down so it was only $39 more for 250.

Comp Cmndo
join:2003-08-12
Palm Beach Gardens, FL

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Re: [Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro - FL Announcement

»corporate.comcast.com/ne ··· -florida

Apr 21, 2015
Comcast today announced it will offer residential multi-gigabit broadband service in Florida to its more than 1.3 million customers in the Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm and Jacksonville areas. Gigabit Pro is a symmetrical, 2 Gigabit-per-second (Gbps) service that will be delivered via a fiber-to-the-home solution. It will be offered broadly across Comcast’s Florida service area beginning next month and will be the fastest residential Internet speed in the country. Florida is one of the first markets in the country to offer Gigabit Pro, following launches in Atlanta and California earlier this month.
kucharsk
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Re: [Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro - Interface

Anyone have any idea what the interface box is going to look like, given there's currently no reasonably priced interface to get 2 GB of data into/out of most home machines? (10 Gb Ethernet is still quite pricy, and most 802.11ac routers would have a hard time delivering anything close to 2 Gb and most only have GigE Ethernet ports for data input.)

Most Gigabit Pro customers would then likely have the distinction of being client-side speed limited.

scjohnson
join:2010-07-21
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said by kucharsk:

Anyone have any idea what the interface box is going to look like, given there's currently no reasonably priced interface to get 2 GB of data into/out of most home machines? (10 Gb Ethernet is still quite pricy, and most 802.11ac routers would have a hard time delivering anything close to 2 Gb and most only have GigE Ethernet ports for data input.)

Most Gigabit Pro customers would then likely have the distinction of being client-side speed limited.

Well, I think a simple configuration could be a few PCs connected to a gig switch with 10Gb uplinks. That would keep per-PC cost down.
XtremepH
join:2003-10-19
Alpharetta, GA

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Re: [Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro - Atlanta, GA

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Got this insert with an Xfinity TV promo. The site location comcast.com/multi-gig is not live on Comcast site as yet though..

train_wreck
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join:2013-10-04
Antioch, TN

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wtf? "faster is getting fstr"? i guess less letters means fast, then.

tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA

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said by train_wreck:

..wtf? "faster is getting fstr"? .

It does look like an incomplete brainstorm (and the storm won)
perhaps fstr is intended to convey blurred "faster fast" due to the speed, but a weak effort overall.
I hope they go back to the comedic edge for their feel good ads. and a straight tear sheet for the product details.
videomatic3
join:2003-12-12
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said by train_wreck:

wtf? "faster is getting fstr"? i guess less letters means fast, then.

what this means is when you download something it will appear faster when you are downloading it, however when you go to watch your video clip or audio clip you will have only received about 2/3rds of it.
its stupid fast

»www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· DnYmeVHs

train_wreck
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the problem is when you say "fstr", phonetically it sounds like "fester", implying an open wound of some kind, which isn't what you want.

telcodad
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Re: [Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro

RE: »[Speed] Comcast to offer Gigabit Pro in Minneapolis/St. Paul

While this article is on the MinnPost site, it also applies to all areas that will be launching Gigabit Pro service:

Should you care that Comcast is going to offer 2-gigabit Internet service in the the Twin Cities?
By Brian Lambert, MinnPost - May 28, 2015
»www.minnpost.com/media/2 ··· n-cities
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Re: [Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro - Atlanta, GA

said by tshirt:

said by train_wreck:

..wtf? "faster is getting fstr"? .

It does look like an incomplete brainstorm (and the storm won)
perhaps fstr is intended to convey blurred "faster fast" due to the speed, but a weak effort overall.
I hope they go back to the comedic edge for their feel good ads. and a straight tear sheet for the product details.

said by train_wreck:

the problem is when you say "fstr", phonetically it sounds like "fester", implying an open wound of some kind, which isn't what you want.

I thought it was that Comcast was using a data compression/saving scheme, to turn ordinary 1 Gig links into 2Gbps Gigabit Pro ones, where they drop almost all the vowels when transporting text, like what's done with "Speedwriting."

[Ref: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp ··· dwriting ]

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said by telcodad:

I thought it was that Comcast was using a data compression/saving scheme, to turn ordinary 1 Gig links into 2Gbps Gigabit Pro ones, where they drop almost all the vowels when transporting text, like what's done with "Speedwriting."

Ha there you go! Or maybe, "fstr" is a subtle hint that their networks can't actually handle 2gbps connections, so if you sign up for this service you'll be expecting packet loss. ("Letter loss"?)

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said by train_wreck:

wtf? "faster is getting fstr"? i guess less letters means fast, then.

 
Like slo?

Cjaiceman
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I feel like their rabbit panther thingy commercial would have been a great way to introduce their Fiber 2Gb/s:

»youtu.be/h16qMJ_LCyg
planetcoop
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Re: [Speed] Side Discussion About Gigabit Pro

I agree. Any news and rumors to dates?
XtremepH
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Alpharetta, GA

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said by planetcoop:

I agree. Any news and rumors to dates?

I called and spoke to Comcast's Customer Service after receiving the flyer but the only thing should could tell me is that it'll be released before May 2015 in the Atlanta area. Pricing has yet to be finalized and it will require that you live within 1/3 mile from their Fiber Plant. Other than that she really didn't have any additional details that wasn't already shared.
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Im ready... I have my mikrotik ccr 1032 in the cart for 8 gigabit and 2 sfp+ ports. My new home is 600' with conduit to a brand new neighborhood with about 120 homes. The point is gimme gimme gimme some fiber.