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humanfilth
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Re: Fibre to my door coming questions

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Fibre to the home
said by John90 :

What comes out of the ONT for connections by chance? Ethernet? HPNA? Anything else? Where does the Actiontec go or is the ONT the Actiontec?

1 activated Ethernet port out of ONT. Actiontec handles all LAN/Optik things.
ONT replaces the home phone, former copper to street, with service to street.
If you no have Optik, you can plug your personal router into the ONT and avoid Actiontec.

John90
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Thanks! The picture cleared up all my questions. I wondered what the setup would look like.

Mike200
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What happens with older homes that don't have an electrical outlet by the demarc? (Like my house). Also my house isn't wired for cat5. I currently have copper. The actiontec is in my office by the computer. Does TELUS use those HPNA to ethernet convertors by chance? I have seen them on the actiontec website.

humanfilth
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said by Mike200 :

What happens with older homes that don't have an electrical outlet by the demarc? (Like my house). Also my house isn't wired for cat5. I currently have copper. The actiontec is in my office by the computer.

Extension cords are nice. There are many professions where installers have a basic electricians license, allowing for adding power from the panel or extended outlet to their products.
Fiber internal installer will run a cat6 cable to your office or hub of communications. If that proves to be very difficult, other methods may happen, like conversion of multipair copper phone line. Conversion installs can be a pain in the ass.

I was flipping through one of the fibre.telus.com town maps and it had a list of addresses, and in that list was reasons for no fibre install. This particular one was a 10+ year old 4 level wood frame apartment building with 20 units. It said "no fibre for you". I'd guess no one wanted cables(fibre or ethernet) running in micro conduit up the outside of the building to the units and that the internal mechanical pathways sucked shit. They are stuck on internet-6.

Examples.
Install Notes: We are working hard to improve the quality of service where you live. We have carefully considered every option and, at this time, your residence is not eligible for Fibre Optic Network enhancements due to construction challenges.

Install Notes: We are working hard to improve the quality of service where you live. We have consulted with your building or strata manager, and they have declined our request to provide Fibre Optic Network enhancements at this time.

Install notes: We are initiating contact with your building or strata manager so we can discuss upgrading your residence. We will post further updates here over the coming months, stay tuned!

Mike200
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Time will tell I guess. I got a call from the fibre team asking if I wanted to get connected I said yes. So they said it will likely be fall time. I can run an extension cord. I'll ask about the install challenges when they come to run the fibre.
ttvtech
join:2013-10-10

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said by Mike200 :

What happens with older homes that don't have an electrical outlet by the demarc? (Like my house). Also my house isn't wired for cat5. I currently have copper. The actiontec is in my office by the computer. Does TELUS use those HPNA to ethernet convertors by chance? I have seen them on the actiontec website.

Without seeing the place there's no way to know what an installer would do. Sometimes we run fiber to the current modem location, sometimes we run fiber to a handy spot with power and then run cat5 to the gateway. Sometimes none of the possibilities are acceptable to a customer and we have to leave them on copper.

We don't add electrical outlets, the closest I've seen is a brownfield apt building with wiring but no outlet. Our falcon contractors ran fiber to all the front closets. These closets were wired for a outlet when the building was new (to make it possible to put an alarm in the front closet) but most had a blank plate instead of an outlet. Customers got their electricians to finish the outlet and we gave them a $100 bill credit to cover most or all of the cost. This would be a pretty rare case, most front closets in apt buildings would either have no power or have a proper outlet. If there's no power in the front closet, the fiber would have to be run somewhere else.

kevinds
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So basically,

Be flexible and they will figure it out

Lenny4
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In my case its not too bad. I can get an electrical outlet wired right beside the breaker in the garage. The issue is its cat 3 telco pair or RG6 coax to the office from the garage. Currently the computer and PVR are located in the office connected via the actiontec gateway (In the office). The other room is fed via HPNA coax to the other room. But like you say will worry about that when the time comes.
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said by Mike200 :

What happens with older homes that don't have an electrical outlet by the demarc? (Like my house). Also my house isn't wired for cat5. I currently have copper. The actiontec is in my office by the computer. Does TELUS use those HPNA to ethernet convertors by chance? I have seen them on the actiontec website.

Without seeing the place there's no way to know what an installer would do. Sometimes we run fiber to the current modem location, sometimes we run fiber to a handy spot with power and then run cat5 to the gateway. Sometimes none of the possibilities are acceptable to a customer and we have to leave them on copper.

We don't add electrical outlets, the closest I've seen is a brownfield apt building with wiring but no outlet. Our falcon contractors ran fiber to all the front closets. These closets were wired for a outlet when the building was new (to make it possible to put an alarm in the front closet) but most had a blank plate instead of an outlet. Customers got their electricians to finish the outlet and we gave them a $100 bill credit to cover most or all of the cost. This would be a pretty rare case, most front closets in apt buildings would either have no power or have a proper outlet. If there's no power in the front closet, the fiber would have to be run somewhere else.