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AMD Considering/Discussing possible breakup

»arstechnica.com/business ··· rs-says/
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On Friday afternoon, Reuters reported that AMD is weighing its options, and those options include breaking the company up or spinning off some sectors into independent companies. Three anonymous sources who are “familiar with the matter" told the newswire that AMD is just looking at a break up preliminarily, noting that the company hasn’t made any decisions to go forward with the move.
note this is considering and discussing options, Not a will happen thing yet if ever.

I am honestly a Green and Blue fan but I would hope that Red never goes away because even if they lag behind they are still there and they are still competition. And there is not a place where competition is ever a bad thing.

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It would be nice to jettison the CPU business and let AMD/ATI/Radeon to continue focusing on graphics cards--I see that as one of the most viable products that can trade blows with Nvidia. I don't see any of the CPUs being very competitive above the $120 mark, however.

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They've been heading downhill for some time. And moves like this »www.kitguru.net/site-new ··· content/ don't help their image.

"On the 11th June AMD informed us via email that the upcoming FIJI hardware was reserved for KitGuru, as would normally be the case. We subsequently set a plan in motion to analyse the hardware for launch and were awaiting the arrival of the sample. Earlier this week I had a call from Christine Brown, Senior Manager, EMEA Communications at AMD to let me know that the company had withdrawn their sample from KitGuru labs and that we would now not be involved at all in the launch next week.

Christine Browne informed me directly on the phone that the reason for withdrawing the sample was based on ‘KitGuru’s negative stance towards AMD’. She said that with limited product they wanted to focus on giving the samples to publications that are ‘more positive’ about AMD as a brand, and company. I was not informed during this call of anything we have published that was factually incorrect, we were also not told to edit or remove any content we had published. Based on what AMD had seen via KitGuru editorial in recent weeks it was felt that overall coverage was just too negative."

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I guess I'll have to start reading KitGuru more because this is kinda a freedom of the press issue. AMD doesn't want me to read them? Ok, then I WILL read them.

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said by wutsinterweb3:

I guess I'll have to start reading KitGuru more because this is kinda a freedom of the press issue. AMD doesn't want me to read them? Ok, then I WILL read them.

I had the same initial reaction but then I heard from others who have read the site that there can be a bit of pro-nvidia slant and random AMD putdowns in their coverage. How much of that should a company like AMD tolerate before they take a site off their early review sample list? It's hard to say...

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said by pnjunction:

said by wutsinterweb3:

I guess I'll have to start reading KitGuru more because this is kinda a freedom of the press issue. AMD doesn't want me to read them? Ok, then I WILL read them.

I had the same initial reaction but then I heard from others who have read the site that there can be a bit of pro-nvidia slant and random AMD putdowns in their coverage. How much of that should a company like AMD tolerate before they take a site off their early review sample list? It's hard to say...

Did you read Kitguru's review of the 300 series cards? There is no bias anywhere to be found in that article.

Disappointment maybe, but no bias in favor of team green that I could see.

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Exactly my thoughts.

On one hand it could be an admirable stance with respect to journalistic integrity and on the other hand it could be a prejudicial publication with an agenda / vendetta against AMD.

Since I have never read KitGuru or even heard of them, I know not which is the case.

Probably the best thing that ever happened to Kitwhodo,....... foodoo,.... yahoo,... Guru,...... whatever,...

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said by pnjunction:

said by wutsinterweb3:

I guess I'll have to start reading KitGuru more because this is kinda a freedom of the press issue. AMD doesn't want me to read them? Ok, then I WILL read them.

I had the same initial reaction but then I heard from others who have read the site that there can be a bit of pro-nvidia slant and random AMD putdowns in their coverage. How much of that should a company like AMD tolerate before they take a site off their early review sample list? It's hard to say...

I glanced through their GPU news section and found tons of AMD articles. Could just be that point in the cycle, but I found no overt bias against red and towards green.

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Well, now that we know kitguru lied. Some will say kitguru was taking a guess about the future of AMD. What AMD did was just a slap to kitguru for lying. Some investor might even take kitguru seriously and sell AMD stocks. So, yea, AMD lost more than just kitguru unable to review AMD card.

Lost in invest and Money vs benchmarks reviews

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said by FizzyMyNizzy:

Well, now that we know kitguru lie. Are some will say taking a guess. What AMD did was just a slap to kitguru for lying. Some investor might even take kitguru seriously and sell their stocks. So yea. AMD lost more than kitguru unable to review AMD card.

Lost in invest and Money vs benchmarks reviews

Care to link what you are referring to?

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said by FizzyMyNizzy:

Well, now that we know kitguru lie. Are some will say taking a guess. What AMD did was just a slap to kitguru for lying. Some investor might even take kitguru seriously and sell their stocks. So yea. AMD lost more than kitguru unable to review AMD card.

Lost in invest and Money vs benchmarks reviews

I cannot make out what you are saying, the grammar is confusing.

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said by wutsinterweb3:

said by FizzyMyNizzy:

Well, now that we know kitguru lie. Are some will say taking a guess. What AMD did was just a slap to kitguru for lying. Some investor might even take kitguru seriously and sell their stocks. So yea. AMD lost more than kitguru unable to review AMD card.

Lost in invest and Money vs benchmarks reviews

I cannot make out what you are saying, the grammar is confusing.

For real. I read that comment 3 times and still don't know what the hell he's saying.

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said by Ghastlyone:

said by wutsinterweb3:

said by FizzyMyNizzy:

Well, now that we know kitguru lie. Are some will say taking a guess. What AMD did was just a slap to kitguru for lying. Some investor might even take kitguru seriously and sell their stocks. So yea. AMD lost more than kitguru unable to review AMD card.

Lost in invest and Money vs benchmarks reviews

I cannot make out what you are saying, the grammar is confusing.

For real. I read that comment 3 times and still don't know what the hell he's saying.

Protip: Don't touch the keyboard before you've had for first cup of coffee.

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said by FizzyMyNizzy:

Well, now that we know kitguru lied. Some will say kitguru was taking a guess about the future of AMD. What AMD did was just a slap to kitguru for lying. Some investor might even take kitguru seriously and sell AMD stocks. So, yea, AMD lost more than just kitguru unable to review AMD card.

Lost in invest and Money vs benchmarks reviews

Still waiting on any evidence to back up your observation.

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said by Krisnatharok:

said by FizzyMyNizzy:

Well, now that we know kitguru lied. Some will say kitguru was taking a guess about the future of AMD. What AMD did was just a slap to kitguru for lying. Some investor might even take kitguru seriously and sell AMD stocks. So, yea, AMD lost more than just kitguru unable to review AMD card.

Lost in invest and Money vs benchmarks reviews

Still waiting on any evidence to back up your observation.

Feels like strong AMD fanboy-ing.

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At the risk of steering this thread back on topic

If AMD were to spin off their graphics devision wouldn't that just be a return to the same old AMD and ATI days? Sometimes it seems like buying ATI was one of the best things that AMD could have done and without that move they would have been in serious trouble.

I don't see how a spin off helps matters.

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Updated June 21, 1720 EST (2220 BST):

AMD Spokesperson Sarah Youngbauer issued a statement over the weekend denying Reuters' report. She wrote, "AMD provided official confirmation that we have not hired an outside agency to explore spinning-off/splitting the company... We remain committed to the long-term strategy we laid out for the company in May at our Financial Analyst Day, which encompasses all parts of the business."

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said by Krisnatharok:

said by FizzyMyNizzy:

Well, now that we know kitguru lied.

Still waiting on any evidence to back up your observation.

»www.kitguru.net/componen ··· -report/

Posted time: June 20th, 2015 at 10:05 am - AuthorAnton Shilov
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AMD is considering breakup, spin-off graphics business unit report
One of the comments:
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James Brand • 5 days ago
and they wonder why AMD Refuse to send them a Fury X sample when they write speculative clickbait articles like this wonders never cease
===Next day====

»arstechnica.com/business ··· rs-says/

Updated June 21, 1720 EST (2220 BST):
quote:
AMD Spokesperson Sarah Youngbauer issued a statement over the weekend denying Reuters' report. She wrote, "AMD provided official confirmation that we have not hired an outside agency to explore spinning-off/splitting the company... We remain committed to the long-term strategy we laid out for the company in May at our Financial Analyst Day, which encompasses all parts of the business."
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And every one disliked their AMD Fiji video, Kitguru also disable the youtube comment.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· gc8qjQwk

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Everyone knows AMD is bleeding losses and not in a good longterm situation. Treating a spokesperson's word as gospel over a journalist is like believing Putin when he says Russia is abiding by the ceasefire in the Ukraine, or that there are no American tanks in Baghdad.

Are you that much a fanboi?

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Are you lumping Arstechnica and any other site into this flamethrower you are using here, because Kit wasn't the only site that posted this story.

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said by Weasel:

Are you lumping Arstechnica and any other site into this flamethrower you are using here, because Kit wasn't the only site that posted this story.

Tell AMD that. Not me.
Don't kill the messenger.

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said by FizzyMyNizzy:

Tell AMD that. Not me.
Don't kill the messenger.

No, we'll tell you that, because you were the one who accused Kitguru of slandering AMD.

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said by Krisnatharok:

said by FizzyMyNizzy:

Tell AMD that. Not me.
Don't kill the messenger.

No, we'll tell you that, because you were the one who accused Kitguru of slandering AMD.

You ask for evidence, and I gave it to you.

AMD can removed everyone that posted the rumors news. I guess AMD think Kitguru was the one that posted it first.

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said by FizzyMyNizzy:

AMD can removed everyone that posted the rumors news. I guess AMD think Kitguru was the one that posted it first.

So now AMD is right and just in declaring war on Ars Technica and Reuters because they put out "rumor news"? Maybe all of SemiAccurate should be nuked from orbit.

At least IMHO, whatever that counts for, an AMD spokesperson denying something DOES NOT MAKE IT CONFIRMED FACT. You are blithely ignoring that fact to paint Kitguru as a slanderous outlet with an axe to grind against AMD. THE ONLY OTHER PEOPLE REPEATING THIS MANTRA are die-hard AMD fanbois who refuse to see logic or reason.
said by FizzyMyNizzy:

You ask for evidence, and I gave it to you.

Like all conspiracy theories, this one is cobbled together with bad information and not enough critical thinking and analysis.

June 19: AMD withdraw KitGuru Fury X sample over 'negative content'

June 20: AMD is considering breakup, spin-off graphics business unit -- 2013 report
• As has already been stated, Kitguru cited Reuters--Ars also covered it--in this article. That is about as far as possible from "speculative".

Odds are the the decision to pull Kitguru's card was made days or weeks prior to the June 19th discovery and announcement by Kitguru. There is no way that their June 20th article influenced that decision, unless AMD sent someone back in time.

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Guess the update on June 21st never happen.

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I think I've laid out a very compelling case that disproves your accusation that Kitguru was out to slander AMD, and that is why AMD dropped them. It's shoddy logic--correlation =/= causation doesn't even apply because the event you are alleging caused AMD to drop them occurred AFTER the decision was made and the decision published by Kitguru. Two completely unrelated factoids you are trying to string together to support this conspiracy.

Until you stop spouting conspiracy theories that only the most ardent, die-hard AMD fans are repeating about the underwhelming Fury X launch, AMD's approach to independent journalism in this case, and the grim future AMD might face unless it can put out some decently competitive products, I am done in this thread.
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