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Speedy Petey
join:2008-01-19

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Re: [Electrical] Aluminum Conductor

said by mackey:

No, you must still wet sand and goop up the aluminum before inserting and tightening the screw. Fail to do so and it becomes a question of how long you have before it burns up (which may be just minutes if you didn't strip back to clean wire first). Aluminum is a PITA to terminate right which is one of the reasons it's now banned (by some AHJ's) for 15A/20A branch circuits.

If you strip back on the conductors there is really no need to "wet sand" the conductors. And these splices have "the goop" pre-installed.
I have used literally hundreds of these splices for over 25 years on sizes from #8 to 600MCM with not one failure or even compromised connection. And they can be re-used.

I don't fall for aluminum wiring scare tactics because I know better and I know the truth. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for most DIYers and laypeople.

nunya
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MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO

nunya

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I wholeheartedly disagree with you here. I've been firsthand witness too many times on the dangers of AL branch circuit wiring.
There's definitely a delineation between evil AL and good AL. Newer, larger, stabiloy conductors aren't even in the same class as smaller solid conductors. The smaller solid conductors of dubious alloy content (60's - late late 70's) and termination are where the trouble begins.

mackey
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join:2007-08-20

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said by Speedy Petey:

I don't fall for aluminum wiring scare tactics because I know better and I know the truth.

No, you clearly do not. The last place I lived in (built 1979) had all aluminum wiring, and I had more then a couple connections burn up. I even had a 50A breaker melt pretty good (you should of seen the smoke rolling out of the panel). Not wet sanding the 1970's era aluminum the OP has is just asking for trouble.
Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL

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said by nunya:

The smaller solid conductors of dubious alloy content (60's - late late 70's) and termination are where the trouble begins.

I personally saw the results of an electrical fire caused by Aluminum wire creep. I visited a friend and noticed the wall at the eat in kitchen was blackened and the outlet below the blackened area was melted. I asked what happened and was told they had a toaster plugged into the outlet. When they were toasting some bread sparks suddenly started shooting out of the outlet and the plastic parts burst into flames. Fortunately the studs were non combustible steel and they had a fire extinguisher handy.

The electrician they hired reported that the outlet was wired with Aluminum wire and electrical fires of that nature were not unusual in that condominium, which was constructed in the early 70's. The owner wound up having to have all outlets and switches replaced with devices rated for terminating Aluminum wire.
Speedy Petey
join:2008-01-19

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said by nunya:

I wholeheartedly disagree with you here. I've been firsthand witness too many times on the dangers of AL branch circuit wiring.
There's definitely a delineation between evil AL and good AL. Newer, larger, stabiloy conductors aren't even in the same class as smaller solid conductors. The smaller solid conductors of dubious alloy content (60's - late late 70's) and termination are where the trouble begins.

Then I did a terrible job is explaining, 'cause I was saying the same thing.