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My Connection keeps dropping... *sigh*
It's been doing this all day yesterday and it's been getting on my nerves. As you can see in the image my internet connection keeps dropping randomly hence the packet lost and for the packet lost on Hop 1 the Router/Modem I tried unplugging it, resetting it and that did nothing. 
Modem/Router RF Parameters. 
Event Log in case there might be something needed from it. 
HW/FW Versions. ========== Looking at my downstream it's kinda high despite being on only one splitter. Any help with figuring out the problem would be helpful. Some things to note is that my connection is from my Computer to the Modem/Router and from there it goes through only one splitter outside and finally it goes to the pole in the alley. I have also tried replacing the splitter/cables and that did nothing so there is nothing I can do on my end. *EDIT* 
Another image of the packet loss and connection drops without resetting/unplugging the modem/router although it's going through less hops compared to the other one.
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I always blame squirrels. |
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bdnhsv join:2012-01-20 Huntsville, AL |
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So your modem is periodically rebooting itself, correct? |
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Perhaps? None of the lights change when it does this though. |
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I'm seeing a ton of 100% packet loss in my pingplotter graphs too here in Columbus. NOt quite as bad as you are seeing, but about every minute or so I'm getting solid red groupings. Will take a screenshot here after this next 5 minute block. |
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You need to buy a battery. |
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I am in Clearwater, FL and I for the past two weeks or so I get huge packet lost around 6 to 7p. I only recently started logging it through PingPlotter so have a better track of it. I had a tech come out and they checked all the lines and everything was fine.... This is ridiculous. I wish I could get in contact with one of the WOW employees through here, but I'm not sure if I can (I just made my account here for this right now, and there seems to be a minimum requirement before I can send private messages). |
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said by Tony0945:You need to buy a battery. The Battery has nothing to do with the connection drops. In the past I didn't have any problems with my internet with or without a battery. ========== Anyway... figure I post a 6-hour time lapse of my connection... 
It switched hops again and as you can see... no improvements over the 6+ hours. A tech is suppose to come today at around 3PM to 6PM so hopefully this gets sorted out. 
Posting signal levels again.
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Your d/s power is MUCH higher than I'd want to see it on D3.0; more rational providers range +-8dBmV which would make your connection marginal at best. I don't like it because it's close to out of spec; weather will take those 6.7+ right out. However, your SNR is fine and your uncorrectables are zero. Both good things.
Upstream, similar situation. Power is a little on the high side for what I'd want, but the limit there is 50 and your ATDMA is perfectly matched and your TDMA is only slightly higher. That tells me that while the level is slightly high, it is very clean.
In other words: the packet loss is not on the line or at your end. Or anywhere near it. Not unless there is an issue behind the Ethernet port. If it was in RF plant you would see uncorrectables accompanied by much higher correctables.
The issue is in WOW's network. |
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said by RootWyrm:Your d/s power is MUCH higher than I'd want to see it on D3.0; more rational providers range +-8dBmV which would make your connection marginal at best. I don't like it because it's close to out of spec; weather will take those 6.7+ right out. However, your SNR is fine and your uncorrectables are zero. Both good things.
Upstream, similar situation. Power is a little on the high side for what I'd want, but the limit there is 50 and your ATDMA is perfectly matched and your TDMA is only slightly higher. That tells me that while the level is slightly high, it is very clean.
In other words: the packet loss is not on the line or at your end. Or anywhere near it. Not unless there is an issue behind the Ethernet port. If it was in RF plant you would see uncorrectables accompanied by much higher correctables.
The issue is in WOW's network. I can have the guy look at the signal levels and see if that can be changed. As for the thing on WOW's network wonder how I should tackle that since I'll perhaps be told it's on my end. ===== Alright so... the tech guy didn't show and when I called about it the tech guy apparently came at 3:15pm... when I scheduled the appointment to have someone come out I told them that the doorbell was broken and if the guy knocked on the door I would know since my dogs would be barking left & right. Another thing is that I didn't even get a phone call from the guy letting me know that he's here and it not hard to miss a call on your cellphone which was the number I gave. No call on the house phone either. Now because of this... I now have to wait until Oct. 6 to have someone come out. Brilliant. As of now my connection is stable for the time being but sooner or later it'll act up again. What I can try is exchanging the modem for another one just to rule it out but I'm not sure when I'll be able to do that. *Edit* ...and there it goes yet again with it disconnecting left & right. *Edit 2* 
Left it running overnight again. This thing has a mind of it's own seeing as it's not as bad as yesterday's but still it random drops. This is over the span of 11+ hours by the way. *Edit 3* 
Another overnight log. Looks very clean this time. Perhaps it's been fixed or is it just doing this just so there isn't a problem? About 10+ hours of time.
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Okay, so today the connection wasn't acting up and this was bad because the tech was coming today between 8am to 11am. He came and saw no problems despite me showing the above info to him and if I were to still have any problems I need to give another call.
Now about an hour after he left the connection started acting up again. I just don't understand how showing the above information screams "no problem here" and trying to catch it in the act while a tech is running tests pretty much is near impossible.
I am honestly beginning to wonder why I even bother doing this. I took the modem in today and the place that's about 15 minutes away from where I live doesn't carry the same modem that I have so... in short nothing was exchanged.
Bet if I call in and ask for a modem replacement I'll have to wait X days so I think at this point I should just buy my own modem/router instead of using their rental ones. Thing is I'll have to give up the phone service which shouldn't much of a lost since all we get is spam calls 24/7. |
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my take its upstream impairment (noise) "T3" Now you have to find a tech that understands it and most likely needs to be there durning trouble to actually chase it |
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bdnhsv join:2012-01-20 Huntsville, AL |
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So stop being a victim and change isp's. If you want to donate to a charity there are plenty of worthy causes such as the American Cancer society, St Judes, etc. |
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So things haven't improved at all over the past days and I'm having a tech come out tomorrow to swap the rental modem/router and to also check the lines. If I get told that there isn't any problem where there is CLEARLY a problem with all the info I have gathered and troubleshooting things then I may end up changing ISPs. Thing is who to go with? 

Still acting up as usual.
Also one thing to note is that I now have my own modem & router but because my parents want to keep the house phone for a little longer I can't set it up. This modem that I have is a Motorola SURFBoard Modem SB6141 and it lacks a phone jack so the phones can't be used with it. At the moment I am currently bugging my parents to switch the important stuff over to their cellphone or something so I can hook up my own Modem or they can go with a different phone service or something.
Now if I do happen to switch ISPs then perhaps I can hook up my own stuff and hopefully I don't need a device to use the phones.
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baess
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2015-Oct-10 10:28 am
Even though you can buy a telephony modem WOW! requires you to rent their modem if you have all three services. Not sure how others handle it.
As for who to go with if you leave WOW! what choices do you have? Comcast, RCN? Someone else? |
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Comcast & AT-T are supposedly in my area that I can go with but I dunno if I want to go with them due to some reviews about them. ===== Anyway tech came and took a look at things and I also showed him pingplotter info as well as other information and looks like it was enough to confirm that there was a problem all along. He also mentioned something about his equipment not loading for him when he was testing the signal outside so that could've helped out.
There's going to be someone checking out the lines this upcoming Monday and hopefully that should fix the issue. At least I hope so. |
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So apparently nothing was done yesterday with the lines seeing that ping plotter would've showed some solid red lines which would mean that something was disconnected and even if something was done the problem STILL happens. 
I'm putting my foot down. Called about it and threatening to cancel my service due to nothing being done to fix the problem. Now I have to wait until Thursday to have someone check out the lines. I may be patient but there IS a limit just to how much patience I have with this. I should've just said it and went ahead and canceled my service.
This is going to be the last time I will wait for this tech to take a look at things and if nothing is done to fix the problem then it's goodbye WOW and I'll just have to go with someone else. Who knows maybe the other ISP may fix the problem as they install the new service and perhaps I can use my own modem & router setup.
I shouldn't have to wait this long just to have this issue fixed and it's not only my internet but it actually affects the TVs as well since my mother said that the TV went out for a few seconds while watching the cubs game.
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RednrollArris SB8200/Asus RT-AC3200 join:2015-08-19 Warren, MI |
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Your signals look good to me. I was having similar problems in the past, and it ended up being my download signal levels at my modem. I could only speculate that a drop in WOW's signal level coming to my house was the cause of the problem. I ended up solving the problem myself, by eliminating a splitter the WOW installer had used going to my modem and eliminating that splitter raised my signal levels back in spec. Previously they were on the very edge of the acceptable range. Here's a reference for what you should be looking for in regards to the important signal levels. Signal to Noise Ratio:>30dB (>35dB= good) Power Level Down: -15 to +15 dBmV (0dBmV is ideal) Power Level UP:40-50 dBmV, up to 55dBmV (55-58dBmV=Bad) Your signal levels seem to be ok like I mentioned. The only suspect is in your download level, it's a bit higher than ideal. You could add a splitter prior to your modem connection and that will reduce that level. The signal levels that you captured, are those taken when you loss connection? One website I found to be very useful was here: » downdetector.com/status/wowThis will give you a good indication if the problem is really on your side or from WOW because, obviously if there are a lot of problem reports in your area then it's likely there are problems on WOW's side. Wow may be doing some upgrades in your area and this was what I found out as well was the case in my area. Now that the upgrades have been completed I have had rock solid internet and WOW even increased my speed at no additional cost after they were finished. |
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What did you end up doing? We ditched wow a while back when they didn't help fix the service--no need to throw money away. |
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said by Samir:What did you end up doing? We ditched wow a while back when they didn't help fix the service--no need to throw money away. Ditching WOW sounds like only half of a solution, unless you consider not having internet a solution. So who did you switch to? How much are you paying now? What speeds are you getting? Is the service any better? Is there anything you don't like about this new service? |
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After getting some help the problem was being ironed out. My connection was stable for a few days then I caught this in pingplotter. 
I don't know if they're still working on it or if it's starting to act up again. One odd thing I've noticed is that I'm getting an occasional packet loss to the modem yet no other hops are effected. 
Notice that it started acting up then the modem started to lose packets after that happened but none of the hop on that same line were dropped. After that happened it became stable.
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We switched to Charter (which we have all our commercial accounts with). 60/4 pretty much rock solid. GOD YES!!! Same type of crappy service when something goes wrong, but generally fixes itself after about a week or so--couldn't say that about wow after the last problem with them. |
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Glad you got some help. Stay on top of them until it's perfect! |
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annoy
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2015-Oct-25 8:53 pm
Having same problem keeps kicking me off Destiny and Eso on Xbox one every 10 min this is annoying it happen months ago it seems is high volume that they can't handle |
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Well it was good till it lasted... 
Looks like it's starting to act up again... although not as badly as before but still annoying regardless.
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baess
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2015-Nov-6 1:08 pm
said by Invaild User:Well it was good till it lasted...
Looks like it's starting to act up again... although not as badly as before but still annoying regardless. Look back and see what you said almost a month ago. Time to act? |
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vdRz0Q9nk49v, If you have a specific issue, you can PM WOW_Dan or I.
I dont see a backbone issue that would cause this at the moment. It may be destination specific though. Do you see loss to one destination?? or to any destination?
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I don't know if that's for the user that posted here or for me but... anyway... @WOW_James It would apply for all destinations when the issue occurs. Any sites that I visit either take some time to load than usual or don't load at all and if it's a online game I'm playing then it kicks me off due to a connection lost. When it doesn't occur then it's fine. I'll try a different target via pingplotter and see if I can catch anything. @baess Well... I have to set up some things before I go canceling otherwise I'll have to deal with no internet and I'm sure my parents wouldn't want to miss the shows that they watch. I'm giving it some more time just to be sure. ===== *EDIT 1* So... ran a test for three connections... 
Some packet drops here & there but when all three of them drop at the same time that's when I know my internet has dropped. 
A close up of one of the disconnections. In short it still happens no matter the site.
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Samir join:2010-02-06 Madison, AL |
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If it hasn't been solved by now and you don't want to pay for service you're not getting, you need to disconnect. Move to another provider and then come back. When they come to install from scratch again, be sure they get it right. |
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RednrollArris SB8200/Asus RT-AC3200 join:2015-08-19 Warren, MI |
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Your power down signal levels are at +6dBmV which seems kind of high to me, although within the operational range.
Is your Wow Cable Coax going through an Amplified splitter? With +6dBmV power downstream, I'm suspecting it is and that amplified splitter may be the source of your problem where the connection to your cable modem really should be un-amplified. |
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