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aefstoggaflm
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CISA spying bill passed

I feel so much safer now.

»www.vox.com/2015/10/21/9 ··· vacy-nsa

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From the article:

...CISA would grant companies broad immunity from privacy laws when they share cybersecurity-related information with the Department of Homeland Security. That's good for government agencies because it will give them access to more data. And much of corporate America likes the idea of getting immunity from lawsuits.

And when government agency interests align with corporate interests, legislation becomes unstoppable in the present era. So much for 'we the people...'

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"We the people..."? Isn't that already 'we the sheeple'.

Snowy
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said by Blackbird:

From the article:

...CISA would grant companies broad immunity from privacy laws when they share cybersecurity-related information with the Department of Homeland Security.

IMO, the phrase "privacy laws" is in reality a euphemism for "due process violations".

Substituting "due process violations" for privacy laws" wherever it occurs gives a glimpse into how this will be abused if it becomes law.

This is how I see it;

...CISA would grant companies broad immunity from due process violations when they share cybersecurity-related information with the Department of Homeland Security.

It's about an end run around due process.
Also of note is the use of the word "companies"

By definition a "company" can be legally recognized as such by the gov't even if the "company" consists of a single individual.

So swapping out "companies" with "everyone" gives a clearer view of where this is going to end up.

...CISA would grant everyone broad immunity from privacy laws when they share cybersecurity-related information with the Department of Homeland Security.

Putting it all together for a clearer view -

...CISA would grant everyone broad immunity from due process violations when they share cybersecurity-related information with the Department of Homeland Security.

Now let's define just what "cybersecurity-related information" is...

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EFF on the Senate passing CISA
»www.eff.org/deeplinks/20 ··· s-senate
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CISA passed the Senate today in a 74-21 vote. The bill is fundamentally flawed due to its broad immunity clauses, vague definitions, and aggressive spying authorities.
I took this bill into account when deciding whether or not to "upgrade" to a data mining OS. Way I see it, Citizens United made the government an extension of transnational corporations. Now, CISA makes corporations an extension of the government.

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said by Blackbird:

And when government agency interests align with corporate interests, legislation becomes unstoppable in the present era. So much for 'we the people...'

1. Corporations are ruled to be 'People'.
2. They ARE the people that it is of and for, now.
3. We are screwed.

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said by caffeinator:

1. Corporations are ruled to be 'People'.

And citizens are "human resources"... to be exploited like all others!

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It will be interesting to see how foreign governments and businesses, particularly those in the EU, react to this poorly written law.

I can see companies pulling out of partnerships with US businesses citing security and privacy concerns.