Topic 'Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.' in forum 'Rogers' - dslreports.com

Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Mon, 04 Apr 2016 11:03:38 EDT

rodjames posted : Your 10a setup is wrong, wrong wrong wrong.

Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Thu, 31 Mar 2016 23:53:31 EDT

Datalink posted : The choice of splitter or signal amp will depend on the signal levels that exist on the cable that comes into the home from the street or utility pole. The installation tech will determine which one is appropriate. In the case of Rogers, if a signal amp is required, the most recent version has a non-amplified path through the switch for internet / VOIP devices. If the original signal level is high enough, he or she will install a splitter with the appropriate number of ports to match the number of modems used for tv, internet and possibly home phone.

If you were going Bell Satellite, using DishPro Plus equipment, a switch such as a DP-44 will feed as many receivers as you have installed. Its possible to cascade the switches in case you have a number of receivers in the house. These can be seen in the following link:

»www.digitalhome.ca/forum ··· lls.html

Hopefully someone who has Bell Fibre can comment on that installation and how it is accomplished to accommodate the existing house cabling.

Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:47:48 EDT

mkono87 posted : Just a little update. About 2 weeks ago I did end up putting in my drops for upstairs. Bought the Carlon orange gang boxes and flexible conduit and installed in 5 location, 1 being in the ceiling for when I install a Unifi AP. I realized then that the ac version of unifi is a different design and it would make no sence to have the box there so took it down and just left the conduit but pointed it down flush with the frame so they can cut a hole around in the drywall.

I ended up ordering cat6, plugs, keystones, wall plates ect to get started. Im hoping to get most of it done a day or two before moving in. The electrician ran rg6 from the top opening from each box and ran along the ceiling and into the basement. I just need to terminate and im good to go. The fuse panel and comm cables from the street end up on the wall in the garage right behind where im mounting the panel in the basement.

Question, regarding the rg6 runs, in total I will have 4 run upstairs and probably 2-3 downstairs eventually. Should I be using an amplified splitter or just a regular one? What would you recommend? Im assuming a splitter before the modem, 1 line going to the modem the other then into a multi port distribution box?

Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:57:20 EDT

btech805 posted : This is exactly what we do on large MDUs where we have to work around various subtrades and hop between multiple sites. 3/4" flexible conduit works perfect. If you can it is always better to pass a string through while the walls are still open, this way you have a path incase someone drives a nail or screw through your conduit in the finishing process (although hopefully that doesnt happen).
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Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 19:33:02 EDT

mkono87 posted : Hey guys.

So im getting closer and closer to when I have to start getting things done. I think my best bet is to just install boxes onto the studs and attach conduits to each box and drill down to the open basement. Then later once the house is complete I can start doing my runs. The cable from the street will be coming into the garage and im thinking of having the cable run into the basement on the wall behind the garage. That way I can work at my own pace instead of trying to get everything done on my days off and not get in the way of the builders.

Just wanted some insight what I should be using for conduit and boxes. I had been thinking of using 3/4" blue flexible conduit and the plastic low voltage boxes. What do you think?

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Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:44:02 EDT

Doonz posted : My bad i see i put in .ca not .com

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Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:43:34 EDT

mkono87 posted : I had the same issue. The first link was posted incorrectly.

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Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:42:35 EDT

Doonz posted :

said by LZYKNOWLEDGE:

that blackbox,ca website is a phishing site! I just went to it, google chrome advised me that the https encryption was false, but I went to it anyway taking your word and then the site loaded a false representation of Microsoft.

Not sure what site you went too but i can assure you blackbox is a highly regarded North american vendor

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Sun, 13 Dec 2015 21:32:33 EDT

Datalink posted : Maybe this is the correct address: »ca.blackbox.com/index.aspx

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Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:57:26 EDT

LZYKNOWLEDGE posted : that blackbox,ca website is a phishing site! I just went to it, google chrome advised me that the https encryption was false, but I went to it anyway taking your word and then the site loaded a false representation of Microsoft.

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Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:05:43 EDT

mkono87 posted :

said by coolspot18:

said by mkono87:

Where do you guys recommend I grab supplies from? ie Cable, keystone jacks ect. Im familar with Monoprice and just heard about cablesonsale. Locally in the GTA is fine too.

InfiniteCables in Markham - better quality (i.e. new stock) than Sayal.

Thanks, Il look into it.

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Sun, 13 Dec 2015 15:36:19 EDT

Doonz posted : I bought my cable from Blackbox.ca
I bought my roughin boxes from various online suppliers same with the carlon conduit

All my box terminations were purchased through amazon.com (This was when the dollar was at 0.95

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Sun, 13 Dec 2015 03:55:04 EDT

coolspot18 posted :

said by mkono87:

Where do you guys recommend I grab supplies from? ie Cable, keystone jacks ect. Im familar with Monoprice and just heard about cablesonsale. Locally in the GTA is fine too.

InfiniteCables in Markham - better quality (i.e. new stock) than Sayal.

Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Mon, 07 Dec 2015 10:43:46 EDT

mkono87 posted :

said by CFoo:

Wow. Thats going to look great. Make sure to install some kind of vertical cable managers (or brackets) on the side to manage the patch cables. Also, do not cheap out on the patch cables. Poor quality patch cables will give you issues especially when using GigaBit connectivity.

Yeah its only a rough atm. I may add or subtract drops. Will be even better to plan once there is part of a house built.

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Mon, 07 Dec 2015 10:41:05 EDT

CFoo posted : Wow. Thats going to look great. Make sure to install some kind of vertical cable managers (or brackets) on the side to manage the patch cables. Also, becareful with the cable-ties. Too tight can cause crosstalk or alien-crosstalk. Typically, for Cat6 and above installations, you should use Velcro straps.

Also, do not cheap out on the patch cables. Poor quality patch cables will give you issues especially when using GigaBit connectivity.

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Mon, 07 Dec 2015 10:36:49 EDT

CFoo posted : No BIX wafers are certified to Cat6 as well. Electrically, the BIX and GigaBIX wafers are the same. The GigaBIX wafers were molded differently because Nordx/CDT (now Belden) used it as a sales pitch. The additional cost is for the clear blue tinted plastic and the key to the onside of the wafer.

Long time Belden (Nordx/CDT) employees like to brag they created the first Cat6 connector (the BIX wafer) in the 70s.

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Tue, 01 Dec 2015 17:21:51 EDT

mkono87 posted : As others stated before with the benefits of an unfinished basement, I really only have to focus on is the main floor during the building process. Other than that trying to decide exactly where the central location will be.

Now that the payment for the building permit to be obtained has been made, im hoping to receive more detailed plans of where exactly in the garage the breaker panel and phone/cable from the street is located. Iv have yet to speak with my builder myself we have been dealing with an agent.

I actually made a stop into Lowes to look at counter top finishes but went down the isles looking for conduits. Found some of the grey Clarion plastic ones in 10ft length. I dont need a full 10ft so I could cut them in half, didn't find any boxes though.

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Tue, 01 Dec 2015 01:41:48 EDT

Doonz posted :

said by mkono87:

said by Doonz:

Heh a lil geek porn never hurt anyone.

Legend:

Blue = Data
Green = Extender Network
Yellow = Blue Tooth Network
White = RG6 or Speaker Wire
SO basically at all my "Main TV" location I have

2x Blue Network Cat6A
1x RG6
3x Green Cat6A

There's is a Wall mount location and a floor mount locations ( 4 gang box located @ 48" and @ 13") There's is 2" conduit linking box of theses. Then there is a home run 2" conduit that goes the the server room.

Also there is a standard box of
2x Blue
1x RG6

Every 6' on the wall that is just roughed in with a blank plate.

The Yellow cat6a is used for bluetooth from room to receiver that is located in the basement.

Total cost of materials was $5k. I spent 180 hours pulling the cables during the roughin stage of the house. Then terminating the patch panels was almost 100 hours.

Right now nothing is complete complete but within the next year it will all be done.

What exactly is your extended network for?

All my AV equipment is rack mounted in the basement. Its for HDMI over Ethernet

Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Tue, 01 Dec 2015 01:35:46 EDT

mkono87 posted :

said by Doonz:

What exactly is your extended network for?

Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Tue, 01 Dec 2015 01:33:33 EDT

Datalink posted : Its too bad that contractors don't at least install one run of multi-media cables to each room when the house is built. Even if its not completed, just left in place for the owner to finish, that would make home networks much easier to finish up. Don't know how many times I've come across complaints where the home doesn't have multi-media cable, wifi doesn't work due to overcrowding and power-line equipment gives so-so results.

We have structured wiring in our home, and that makes home networking so much easier. 2.4 Ghz wifi is a write-off where we are, so everything runs on ethernet and 5 Ghz wifi. Without ethernet, this would be a challenge. Thats why I say, don't count on wifi to do everything. If you're on 10 acres, ok, but in town, its a real gamble.

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Tue, 01 Dec 2015 01:27:45 EDT

Doonz posted :

said by Datalink:

Wow, very nice. May seem like a fair amount of money, but the flexibility it provides makes it all worthwhile in the end.

In a previous lifetime i used to do this. The job would have been around 70k. but doing it myself it was only a few k and some days off I used

Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Tue, 01 Dec 2015 01:25:47 EDT

Datalink posted : Wow, very nice. May seem like a fair amount of money, but the flexibility it provides makes it all worthwhile in the end.

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Tue, 01 Dec 2015 01:22:26 EDT

Doonz posted : Heh a lil geek porn never hurt anyone.

Legend:

Blue = Data
Green = Extender Network
Yellow = Blue Tooth Network
White = RG6 or Speaker Wire
SO basically at all my "Main TV" location I have

2x Blue Network Cat6A
1x RG6
3x Green Cat6A

There's is a Wall mount location and a floor mount locations ( 4 gang box located @ 48" and @ 13") There's is 2" conduit linking box of theses. Then there is a home run 2" conduit that goes the the server room.

Also there is a standard box of
2x Blue
1x RG6

Every 6' on the wall that is just roughed in with a blank plate.

The Yellow cat6a is used for bluetooth from room to receiver that is located in the basement.

Total cost of materials was $5k. I spent 180 hours pulling the cables during the roughin stage of the house. Then terminating the patch panels was almost 100 hours.

Right now nothing is complete complete but within the next year it will all be done.

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Tue, 01 Dec 2015 01:08:03 EDT

Datalink posted : Bet that's going to look great when its all done. No pressure here, it would be great to see the final completed panels :)

My 2 cents worth. Don't underestimate the potential use for Cat 6 and RG-6. In any area that might be an entertainment area, you could potentially have an Xbox, PS 3/4, Wii, Smart Tv or internet capable blue-ray player, a roku or chromecast (ethernet version) or home theatre pc. Thats at least 4 ethernet cables, maybe more, plus any requirements for interconnecting some future satellite or cable boxes in various rooms. Make that 5 or 6 x Cat 6 cables.

On the RG-6 side, count on a cable tv or satellite cable, plus maybe an FM antenna cable leading to the attic, plus the possibility of running external antennas for OTA TV reception, leading to cutting the cord and using a combination of online and OTA tv broadcasts. In your area at Thornhill, there are probably about a dozen Canadian and US stations that could seen by using an external antenna. Here's a link to TV Fool to check it out. When the map comes up, check the box on the lower right to "Show lines pointing to each transmitter". That will give you an idea of what is possible.

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And then there is always the backhaul cable leading to some other tv, cable or satellite box. I could see having 6 RG-6 cables installed. You might decide to try Free to Air satellite someday, which will require yet another RG-6 cable or two.

Then there is the office or man cave, where similar thinking might apply. I've seen a number of users say, my modem is in the basement, in the structured wiring cabinet, and my wifi upstairs sucks. Simple solution, connect an upstairs ethernet port to a router and use that for your wifi. Response, I don't have ethernet running upstairs to where its needed. All I have is a single RG-6 cable port or nothing at all. And so, the user has to get creative with some other technology to provide wifi or ethernet where its needed. The simple solution is to run RG-6 cable up, park the cable modem upstairs somewhere, like in your office or some central location, and provide a backhaul Cat-6 cable running down to a gigabit switch where it can branch out to the rest of the home. With the modem upstairs, you can connect a reasonable wifi router to cover most if not all of the home and have easy access to the modem. Or, with Cat 6 installed, you can leave the modem in the basement running in Bridge mode, connected via Cat 6 to the router upstairs, which is running in full router mode and then backhaul the data line back downstairs to the gigabit switch and then out to the rest of the house. It all depends on where you want the firewall parked and which device will provide the firewall and / or wifi services. Using something like the multi-media cables that @Dan pointed out would make this pretty easy. I'd probably run the cables separately like @Doonz has done or run a couple of different multi-media cables, one with Cat-6/RG-6/fibre cables and one with Cat-6/RG-6 cables. This might sound like minutiae, but, when you start to sketch out the devices that could be parked in the various rooms and how they connect, it will be easy to add up the RG-6 and Cat 6 cable requirements.

The question you have to ask yourself is whether or not you want to run a bare minimum of cabling and then have to run a gigabit switch which uses one ethernet and one electrical socket at every location. If you have a number of electrical devices running at those locations that leads to powerbars or a UPS at every location. My personal opinion is that its probably better to have one single switch in the basement, with multiple cable runs to every location, completed in terms of connectors and wallplates and connected via short jumpers to the basement switch. Parking devices around the home will be dead simple, and you probably won't run into the issue of finding out that your smart tv or Chromecast for example has terrible wifi reception at the location that you have chosen for your entertainment center and is basically not usable. There are arguments for and against cabling and wifi. Wifi is easier if you're in an area that has a minimum number of networks running, but, you can't count on that forever. I've seen a number of cases where users say, well, when it was set up it worked well, but now its terrible. One look with inSSIDer, which is a wifi monitoring application, says it all, that there are a number of 2.4 Ghz networks running locally and there is absolutely no chance that anyone will ever see a clear channel. So, the choice becomes moving anything that can be moved, either up into the 5 Ghz band, or, gasp, resorting to house ethernet cabling. Here's a link to the last freebie version of inSSIDer. It doesn't show 802.11ac networks in the 5 Ghz band but there is a new version out now that does. For $20 US, if you happen to use 5 Ghz networks, especially 802.11ac networks, its worth buying. Load that on a dual band laptop and then stop by your future home site with the laptop. Fire up inSSIDer and check out the wifi environment. If you're on an acreage, there might not be any issues, but if you're future home is in the suburbs, it might end up being pretty crowded already, possibly to the point where the 2.4 Ghz band is basically unusable. So, give that a try and add the results to the decision mix.

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In a worst case scenario you end up spending a thousand dollars or so on cabling that you regret installing. And then, the other worst case scenario is that you counted on wifi to do the job, but that doesn't work out and you regret not installing enough cabling to support everything. It all comes down to which regret you prefer :)

Fwiw, my 2 cents.... don't underestimate what might be required. Running the cables in the construction stage is far easier than trying to do it later when the house is complete :)

Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Mon, 30 Nov 2015 23:41:59 EDT

mkono87 posted : Holy moly thats a lot of cables. Looks good though.

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Mon, 30 Nov 2015 21:23:45 EDT

Doonz posted : We just finished our house build.

I had the framers create a 17" spacing in the server room area. Bought 2 rack rails and some patch panels. Because of the amount of cables Leviton structure panels were not an option
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Mon, 30 Nov 2015 20:34:49 EDT

mkono87 posted :

said by AsherN:

To run in walls you need solid, UTP, riser (not plenum). Essentially, the cheapest.

Ok, good enough for me. :)

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Mon, 30 Nov 2015 20:31:19 EDT

AsherN posted : To run in walls you need solid, UTP, riser (not plenum). Essentially, the cheapest.

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Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:48:47 EDT

mkono87 posted : Wow, that is something that I did not know existed, but it makes sense that it does. Have you ordered from those places before? Il keep it in mind.

I did manage to take a trip to Sayal and man do I wish I knew about this place before. What a great store, and almost walked out with a raspberry pi kit. Upon looking at all the bulk cat6 cable boxes I started getting a bit confused as to why the different price jumps from one box to another. UTP/STP, Solid, Plenum, CMR :S I did a little research and have a bit better understanding of the differences. In the home network situation What should I be looking at?

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Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:29:02 EDT

anon posted : If you want to completely future proof your home, you should look into a 6 terminal wall-plate in as may room as possible with the following:

2 ethernets (cat6)
2 coaxes (RG11 (bending radius might be an issue))
2 fibre optics

of course funds permitting.

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Sat, 28 Nov 2015 21:02:10 EDT

mkono87 posted : Thanks guys, really appreciate the help and advice. Il be sure to ask more down the road.

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Sat, 28 Nov 2015 04:44:54 EDT

ings posted : I used Levitron cabinets and matching patch/distribution panels when I built/wired my home. I was happy with the quality.

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Fri, 27 Nov 2015 21:54:20 EDT

btech805 posted : Levitron makes some cabinets for this purpose. Just about any new home has these cabinets in them mounted on studs or drywall
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Re: [Internet] New House building structured network.

Fri, 27 Nov 2015 21:26:32 EDT

AsherN posted : Either a rack mount bracket, or if you have the room a 2 post telecom rack. Small footprint.

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Fri, 27 Nov 2015 17:06:12 EDT

mkono87 posted :

said by Oldster:

Well, the house was wired in 1997 when the only internet available was dial-up. I had a POTS business line and a private line.There were never more than 2 or 3 live phones active at a time, plus a 56K modem, and the TV satellite receivers used a phone line for PPV, and also showed the caller ID on screen. Once DSL became available, I put a POTS/DSL splitter after the demarc - meaning that I now had 3 sources to divide among the 16 possible drops. Once again there was never all 16 active at any time - just the option to put a phone/modem/satellite TV receiver in any room I wanted.

Fast forward to 2015. I now have cable Internet & VOIP.ms with a 2 line ATA. I have 2 AT&T DECT 6.0 base stations ( one upstairs, one downstairs ) with wireless handsets in various rooms. The DECT 6.0 stations each handle 2 outside lines, plus also pair to our cell phones via Bluetooth. If the cell phone rings while it's in the charging station next to the phone base station, it rings on the handsets. Ain't technology great!

So, no, it would be silly to have a POTS line and 16 phones. Still, the idea to wire all phone jacks to some kind of central patch panel makes sense.

That is actually pretty cool. But yes, in todays world I think 16 is nuts. Honestly, we probably have 1 line maybe 2 max and use mutli cordless hands sets. I was looking at Voip.ms and ATAs. Really cheap and seems like a great option.

Speaking of patch panels, I been thinking about how I would mount all this equipment. I thought about using it on a big wood board for now ad it will need to be taken down once the basement is ready to be finished. Or, maybe a metal rack mount of some kind but im really not sure where I need to be looking.

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Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:45:33 EDT

Oldster posted :

said by wayner92:

Did I get that right - sixteen drops for analogue phones? Do you still really care that much about phone lines going to multiple rooms? Have one or two drops to central locations and then use wireless phones around the house, that's if you even still bother to have a POTS line.

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Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:23:37 EDT

mkono87 posted : No lol, not at all. That's a crazy amount of phones for a house.

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Fri, 27 Nov 2015 15:49:07 EDT

wayner92 posted : Did I get that right - sixteen drops for analogue phones? Do you still really care that much about phone lines going to multiple rooms? Have one or two drops to central locations and then use wireless phones around the house, that's if you even still bother to have a POTS line.

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 22:54:22 EDT

AsherN posted : Patch panel. Do it right.

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:04:57 EDT

mkono87 posted : I think the bix method is a little to much for what I need.

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:43:17 EDT

AsherN posted : Terminating to BIX just introduces another connection point. Wall->BIX->RJ45 jack as opposed to Wall->RJ45 jack using a patch panel. Plus if you wire A, the connection can be used by a single line phone. If you connect A, it can be used by a 2 line phone.

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:29:11 EDT

Oldster posted : In my set-up, the BIX panel is only for analogue phone connections. I have 16 drops ( 4 x Cat-5, 4 pair ea ) around the house, and can jumper wire any to 4 possible sources. Presently I have a VOIP ATA with 2 lines. At one time I also had DSL with a POTS/DSL splitter.

I wouldn't recommend using an open BIX panel for Ethernet, but rather to use keystones, or some other means to connect the bare wires to a jack, then run short (manufactured) cables to a switch. Trying to put RJ45 heads on the bare cable ends can be challenging, and possibly make unreliable connections.

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 15:37:06 EDT

mkono87 posted : True, I was slowly getting a but confused there lol

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 14:46:32 EDT

AsherN posted : But we're talking about wiring the house for Ethernet. RJ45, not RJ11.

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 13:37:46 EDT

btech805 posted : That's why i said to use 36B/C OR D standard bix which incorporates a patch panel into the punch down block. The Cat5 or 6 runs are punched to the back of the block and a standard RJ11 cord is at the front allowing to quickly switch between feeds as needed.

Given that the OP has stated fibe isn't available and the home is probably at the edge or past Rogers network, so we are talking ADSP tech with the hope of brownfield FTTH by the end of the decade. If the OP decides to order gigabit if i becomes available the blocks can be swapped out in a few years for gigabix
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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 12:38:12 EDT

AsherN posted : They are a regular retail store. Some of the parts, tools mostly, are in glass cases at the counter.

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:09:01 EDT

mkono87 posted : Does the sayal locations have products on display or is like a "parts counter" similar to napa and I have to have product numbers handy?

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:08:31 EDT

bobnoxe posted :

said by mkono87:

said by AsherN:

HDMI over longer than about 25' is unreliable. I've done it for lower res, but I would not want to rely on it to carry 1080p, let alone 4K

How far do you suggest over Ethernet it can go?

300ft tops

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:00:26 EDT

AsherN posted : For networking, BIX is the absolute wrong way to go. BIX is an interconnect system where all front facing wires are punched down.

Pull a 8p8c from a room and punch it to the back of the BIX block. How do you get to the switch? You would need a solid core wire with a RJ45 connector at one end and punched to BIX at the other. Makes no sense.

Use a proper patch panel. Go to Sayal for your supplies. Buy either a standard patch panel, or one that accepts keystones. Room to patch panel. Standard patch cord from panel to switch. Like every professional does.

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Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:57:10 EDT

joeblow3 posted : I run wired connection when ever I can. Wired is stable, more secure and faster connection than running wireless. Heard people using wireless for a mediaplay (aka netflix and like) and the connection is not stable, videos stall and buffer.

No need to run wireless on your desktop, DVD, TV, Media Player, Set top box etc. when they don't move.

I have 4 connections at my home theater location, DVD, TV, Sat Receiver, media player. I had one RJ45 connection there, now I have a 8 port gigabit switch and a wireless access point tucked in behind the equipment along with a UPS. It messy back there but hidden.

My office, second bedroom and kitchen has 2 RJ45. I had to run CAT5 from second bedroom to master bedroom because I didn't put RJ45 there. They are next to one another so I just ran it through the cold air return between the room.

Now I am about to finish the basement within the next year. There will be lots of thought regarding wiring for a flexible entertainment setup maybe for 2 or 3 locations on the wall for future changes. I will hide connections/wire in the wall and be able to locate it later for connections if needed.

All my stuff runs back to my "equipment" room. A 4x4 room that contains the server, 24 port switch, router, modem, multiple NAS, security system, UPS...etc. All the walls are 3/8 plywood so I can mount anything anywhere without worrying about studs. There is a duct fan drawing the hot air out of the room and routes it to the cold air return of the HVAC for heat recovery.