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Re: [DOCSIS] What is docsis 3.1?More progress made now toward D3.1 becoming available: CableLabs Certifies First Batch of DOCSIS 3.1 Modems Askey, Castlenet, Netgear, Technicolor, Ubee Make the GradeBy Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - January 13, 2016 » www.multichannel.com/new ··· s/396508quote: Marking a key milestone in the development of cable's multi-gigabit DOCSIS 3.1 platform, CableLabs announced Wednesday that five suppliers - Askey, Castlenet, Netgear, Technicolor and Ubee -- have been certified for D3.1.
The certification stamp gives those vendors the green light to sell the devices at retail, but also means they are deemed interoperable. MSOs typically require produces to be CableLabs-certified before they lease them to customers. ...
  The CableLabs press release: » www.businesswire.com/new ··· ts-UsherEDIT: Also this follow-up article on MCN now: DOCSIS 3.1 OKs Accelerated by 'Rolling' Test Waves CableLabs Explains How D3.1 Hit Another Kind of Speed RecordBy Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - January 13, 2016 » www.multichannel.com/new ··· s/396520Karl also has a news item up on this now: » CableLabs Certifies First Five DOCSIS 3.1 Modems [21] comments |
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Johkal
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I don't see any D3.1s in the "Verified for Interoperability Devices" list.
From the Certified and Qualified Devices:
ASKE1161 CM (D3.1) D3.1 Askey Computer Corp. TCG310 B600-EU-D229-150903 1.0 258-1218MHz 5-204MHz 10/100/1000 Base-T (4) 2016 Member Info MD5 hash on SW image: 8ADD3227EC5CFB4BAA1561B8A5E27D7A
CAST1161 CM (D3.1) D3.1 Castlenet Optimum 601 6.0.0beta5 A0 258-1218MHz 5-204MHz 10/100/1000 Base-T (4) 2016 Member Info MD5 hash on SW image: 46C129DC3280F3EEF77D6ED7AFF48257
NTGR1161 CM (D3.1) D3.1 Netgear CM1000 6.0.0beta4 2.01 108-1002MHz 5-42MHz/5-85MHz 10/100/1000 Base-T (1) 2016 Member Info MD5 hash on SW image: E6B6CB8616906344ACA5C9E42E1B4575
TECH1161 CM (D3.1) D3.1 Technicolor TC4400-XM6 116.1.05 1.4 54-1002MHz 5-42MHz/5-85MHz 10/100/1000 Base-T (4) 2016 MD5 hash on SW image: FC68E977F73C776BAE9B9008C2D80CA6
UBEE1161 CM (D3.1) D3.1 Ubee Interactive DVMA20 7.22.0005 2.69.1 93-1002MHz 5-42MHz/5-85MHz 10/100/1000 Base-T (4) 2016 Member Info MD5 hash on SW image: F6E7729A7BD85476EC0FEB1467CF04D1 |
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Looks like these D3.1 modems are initially expected to cost about 30 to 50 percent more than comparable D3.0 ones: DOCSIS 3.1's Price Delta How Much Will the New Modems Cost?By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - January 14, 2016 » www.multichannel.com/blo ··· a/396548 |
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said by telcodad:More progress made now toward D3.1 becoming available:
CableLabs Certifies First Batch of DOCSIS 3.1 Modems Askey, Castlenet, Netgear, Technicolor, Ubee Make the Grade By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - January 13, 2016 »www.multichannel.com/new ··· s/396508 Looks like that first group of certified D3.1 modems all use Broadcom's BCM3390 chipset: Broadcom Chips in For DOCSIS 3.1 Breakthroughs Says Its Chips Are Powering First Batch of Certified D3.1 ModemsBy Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - January 25, 2016 » www.multichannel.com/new ··· s/396808The Broadcom press release: » www.prnewswire.com/news- ··· 603.html |
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plat2on1 join:2002-08-21 Hopewell Junction, NY
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"before the end of 2016" seems like less enthusiastic language than we have heard in the past |
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I'm not really impressed. It feels like Comcast and Broadcom are just patting each other on the back in the article. Comcast is of course playing favorites again. I mean, seriously, "several parts of the country"? I bet we all know what parts those are gonna be...again. For a company that claims to be aggressively pursuing D3.1, they sure aren't moving very fast in getting it national in under a year. Now that would be aggressive. I should note that this isn't a slight towards the hard working engineers and technicians and anyone else involved on the technical side of Comcast, just at the corporate fat cats in the suits and private jets with the Cuban cigars and the $100 bills they use to light them. |
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camperjust visiting this planet Premium Member join:2010-03-21 Bethel, CT
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  The hype from the Marketing people usually sets unreasonably optimistic deadlines. Those in Engineering and Operations, who actually have to implement the stuff, usually have more realistic viewpoints of the implementation schedule.       |
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Oh I totally agree. The engineers, operational staff, and technicians (such as the ones who are on here), are probably the only reason why customers haven't stormed the corporate office like angry pitchfork and torch wielding villagers to a castle of a corrupt King like what was done in the middle ages. I swear, if the engineers ran the company, things would be so much better and less expensive because there wouldn't be any greed and backroom deals and bilking of the customers just to line their own pockets. There wouldn't be fragmentation from market to market, we'd have a national channel lineup, four national speed tiers, everyone would use the latest cutting edge technology and hardware, the slowest speed tier would be 250Mbps, every channel would use the perfect MPEG4 ratio so it's as close to studio quality as technologically possible, and everything would be priced for what it's worth with no inflation, maybe everything would be priced al-la-carte. The point is, it's 2016 and it's time for a change. |
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Comcast announced its plans on launching DOCSIS 3.1 service today: Comcast to Introduce World's First DOCSIS 3.1 powered Gigabit Internet ServiceComcast Press Release - February 2, 2016 » corporate.comcast.com/ne ··· ashvilleKarl also has a news item up on this: » Comcast Unveils Details About Its Gigabit Cable Service Launch [59] comments |
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Sigh - no mention of NE markets. I sometimes think Verizon and Comcast are colluding on things like this. |
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I was surprised to see Chicago on there, but there's talk of Google Fiber and ATT Gigapower looking at possible Chicago builds, so maybe Comcast wants to beat them to the punch. |
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said by GoodOmens:Sigh - no mention of NE markets. There's word that more markets, other than those listed for the Central Division today, may be announced later on: From: » Re: [DOCSIS] 1st DOCSIS 3.1 Gigabit Modem Now Online in Phillysaid by SeattleMatt:»www.tennessean.com/story ··· 9650166/
Well, there ya go. Nashville, Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit and Miami will be the 1st target markets.
Booooo! No Seattle.
**Edit - was told there may be additional announcements regarding other regions coming over the next few weeks - this was specific to the Central region** |
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said by telcodad:Comcast announced its plans on launching DOCSIS 3.1 service today:
Comcast to Introduce World's First DOCSIS 3.1 powered Gigabit Internet Service Comcast Press Release - February 2, 2016 »corporate.comcast.com/ne ··· ashville BTW - ARRIS says that their E6000 Converged Edge Router (CER) will be used in 4 of those first 5 announced D3.1 markets (Atlanta, Nashville, Chicago, Detroit, and Miami): Making DOCSIS 3.1 a Reality this YearARRIS Everywhere blog - February 18, 2016 » www.arriseverywhere.com/ ··· his-year |
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Comcast announced the launch of a consumer trial of DOCSIS 3.1 service in Atlanta today: Comcast Begins Rollout Of Gigabit Internet Service In AtlantaComcast Press Release - March 15, 2016 » corporate.comcast.com/ne ··· -atlantaquote: Following its announcement in February to bring 1 Gigabit-per-second Internet speeds to residential and business customers using DOCSIS 3.1 technology, Comcast today announced it is beginning an advanced consumer trial of Gigabit Internet service to early adopters in a number of neighborhoods in Atlanta, with plans to rollout to additional markets later this year. ...
  EDIT: Also on MCN: » www.multichannel.com/new ··· a/403318EDIT2: Karl now has a news item up on this also: » Comcast Gigabit Service Won't Have Caps - If You Sign A Contract [97] comments |
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That's great to see things moving along. However, I don't believe they were the first to offer gig speeds with current infrastructure, I believe that was Mediacom, however they are correct on D3.1 gig speeds.
Prices aren't too bad. |
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So only 35meg upload. Bummer. |
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said by clocks11:So only 35meg upload. Bummer. Yeah, as D3.1 is only being used on the downstream side right now. |
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said by telcodad:said by clocks11:So only 35meg upload. Bummer. Yeah, as D3.1 is only being used on the downstream side right now. And 35 sounds like they haven't widened the upstream past (what 48MHz?) yet. |
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From a news item referenced in the MCN article, here are the particular Atlanta neighborhoods/suburbs that are part of the trial: From: Comcast begins rollout of gigabit Internet service in Atlanta areaWSB-TV, Atlanta - March 15, 2016 » www.wsbtv.com/news/local ··· 61849758quote: ... The cable and media company says it is beginning an advanced consumer trial of Gigabit Internet service to early adopters in a number of neighborhoods in the Atlanta area, including Brookhaven, Avondale Estates, Dunwoody, Decatur, Chamblee, Doraville, Sandy Springs, East Point, College Park, Midtown Atlanta, Buckhead, Alpharetta and Roswell.
Over the next several weeks, they will continue to roll out additional locations such as Tucker, Stone Mountain, Ellenwood, Lithonia, Woodstock, Marietta, Kennesaw, Clarkston, Canton and Acworth.
A Comcast official says it will continue to expand its deployment area throughout the end of year. ...
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And BTW, as far as the application of a "data usage allowance" for this consumer trial of D3.1 service in Atlanta goes, Karl states this in his news item on it: From: » Comcast Gigabit Service Won't Have Caps - If You Sign A Contract [97] commentsquote: Comcast tells me that while the $70 [36 month contract] option will not feature the company's usage caps (which are being "trialed" in the Atlanta market) users on the no-contract, $140 plan will face usage caps. They also have the option of paying $35 per month extra to avoid said caps.
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Comcast has officially launched a trial of D3.1 service in Nashville now: Comcast Begins Rollout of Gigabit Internet in NashvilleComcast press release - June 6, 2016 » corporate.comcast.com/ne ··· ashvilleAlso on MCN: Comcast Launches DOCSIS 3.1 Trial in Nashville Offers 1-Gig downstream speeds with unlimited data for $70 for subs who take three-year contractBy Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 6, 2016 » www.multichannel.com/new ··· e/405421 |
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I signed up for the Atlanta trial as soon as I learned about it. They finally called me today and said they would be at my home on July 12 for the install. The representative also confirmed that my $70 contract will have no data cap and that I will have 30 days to revert to my old plan with no penalty. We'll see how it goes. |
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Cool, please report back impressions of the service from install, equipment and speeds. Any pictures if available would be appreciated (device, modem signal pages, etc). |
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Yes. If willing, please take as many screenshots of device UI pages and of the device itself from multiple angles as possible. Congrats on the opportunity to be in the trial! |
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I don't think I've seen anyone post signal level pages from a DOCSIS 3.1 system yet, or even a full band capture spectrum analyzer output (if the modem supports it).
You see on the news here and from Comcast about these trial markets, but until we see some signal levels and speed tests, its all vaporware to me. I'd like to see how the modem registers and displays the OFDM frequencies, modulation rates, power levels, SNR's, etc... along side of bonded QAM. OFDM has many tiny carriers and each one can all support various modulation schemes depending on feedback between the CMTS and modem on how the signal is being received. If the carrier is clean it could use 4096QAM, but if there is impulse noise a few MHz away it could use a lower order modulation like 256QAM. |
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Yup. Me too. No idea why we haven't seen this stuff yet. Maybe there's an NDA in place? They can still post anonymously though if they're afraid Comcast might yell at them. |
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said by Mike Wolf:Yup. Me too. No idea why we haven't seen this stuff yet. Maybe there's an NDA in place? They can still post anonymously though if they're afraid Comcast might yell at them. note to self: do not enter into an NDA with this person |
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said by Mike Wolf:They can still post anonymously though if they're afraid Comcast might yell at them. You sure about that Mike? |
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I don't see there being an NDA if they are publically offering service in those markets. |
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