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Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sun, 28 Aug 2016 08:49:16 EDT

AllThumbs posted : We still love RingPlus as a secondary provider, but nobody should go into this thinking it's going to be a satisfactory, front-line SIP replacement for your PBX. Their SIP feature has been dead for days, and it dies regularly. As a fallback system, it's great when it works, but...

The really frustrating part of RingPlus is you get zero feedback when there's a problem. In fact, their status page continually shows everything functioning perfectly when something has been dead in the water for days. I think it's fair to say their #1 priority is signing up new customers. Everything else takes a back seat to that. Unfortunately, that drives people away in droves, but they haven't figured that part out (yet). As the old sayings go, "You get what you pay for" and "If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is." Sad!

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sun, 28 Aug 2016 01:24:31 EDT

josephf posted : RingPlus, later today (Sunday) at 4:00 pm PT - 7:00 pm PT, is again offering a plan with unlimited voice/minutes calling that can be used via SIP as an unlimited Asterisk SIP trunk for the lifetime of the plan. This time the plan does not require their Member+ program. It costs $115, with the payment broken up over the first five months, and then it remains free thereafter. It is called the Surfing Reuben plan. It also includes unlimited texts, unlimited MMS and unlimited data. The unlimited data could potentially be throttled. Some (but not all) of the previous plans part of the "Surfing" series have experienced throttling at 512k.

They are also offering a second promotional plan during today's same flash period above, called the Mad Surfing BBQ Brisket plan, that includes 6000 each of minutes, texts, MMS and MB of data. (It starts at 4750 each and increases for five months, at which point it remains at 6000 units of each.) It may potentially be throttled as well. It costs a one-time top up deposit of $38, and is then free every month thereafter. The unique part about this plan is that the calls are routed directly over the Sprint voice network, with no part of the calling going over R+'s servers, and the calls do not have music or ads ringtones replacing the normal outgoing ringing. This is a first for a promo plan from R+ with this attribute. This second plan, it should be noted, since it is routed directly over Sprint's voice network is not compatible with R+'s SIP service and cannot be used via SIP.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:09:08 EDT

SCADAGeo posted : For those who may have been affected by the 60 day rule, there is a flash promotion tonight (Friday, July 22) from 7pm -9pm Pacific time.

quote:
FLASH Promo!

Opening Friday July 22, 2016 @ 7pm -9pm Pacific

1) Open to all for New Activations at »ringplus.net ;

PLUS!

2) Upgrades available for $9 over Classifieds ($2 for Member+).

3) Placeholders for new lines available for $5 Place over Classifieds ($1 for Member+). The new line can piggyback on another line with Member+ as long as it is on the same account.

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Free/month: 3,500 Talk 3,500 Text and 3,500 MB of Full-Speed LTE Data.

First time auto Top Up $35 is required to cover overages. If, and only if, the Top-Up balance reaches $0, another $30.00 auto Top Up will be automatically charged to your credit card on file (plus applicable telecom fees and taxes).

Overages are 5¢ per unit of Talk, Text and MMS. Data overages are billed in 1GB increments at $15 per GB.

Tethering available for 40¢ a day ($12 a month), renews daily, and can be canceled and re-activated as you need it.

**Attention: for each activation of tethering a flat activation fee of $1 is charged.

Available to anyone during the flash period.

I don't know if those who were downgraded to the "Truly Free - Upgrade" plan will have an opportunity for a free upgrade, or if they have would have to purchase an upgrade through the classified section.

Please note the Member+ piggyback option.

This will re-open for Member+ subscribers from Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 1PM Pacific until Monday, July 25, 2016 at 1PM Pacific.

The first comment in the thread is by a RingPlus employee, and this is what was posted:

quote:
Regarding MMS allotments per month. MMS allotments will be set equal to how many subscribers this plan gets.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Wed, 20 Jul 2016 22:58:07 EDT

SCADAGeo posted : I missed this earlier...

said by Bogen:

The plans having social requirements, didn't they specify it must be done within a certain timeframe (sometimes one week of line opening if I recall, though I could be wrong)?

I, too, seem to recall within one week of line activation.

said by Bogen:

Would following the requirement so long later be helpful?

IMHO, it wouldn't hurt, but it really depends upon the implementation of the initial code and its validation routine.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:02:40 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by Bogen:

When was the last time - and which rules were then enforced?

Sept 2013 - outbound calling.

said by Bogen:

I think its only technically possible to link one twitter account per R+ login.

That's true at the present time.

said by Bogen:

Have there been any social requirements other than linking a twitter account? (Facebook or other requirements.)

Yes.

Please review your plan for your social requirements.

said by Bogen:

BTW, does pressing 0 during ringbacks always send out a tweet on the linked twitter account or only if done during an ad?

Only during an ad.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:26:51 EDT

Bogen posted :

said by SCADAGeo:

said by tennavan:

* The recent enforcement of "one outgoing call every 60 days" rule along

When was the last time - and which rules were then enforced?

The plans having social requirements, didn't they specify it must be done within a certain timeframe (sometimes one week of line opening if I recall, though I could be wrong)? Would following the requirement so long later be helpful?

At the present time, a family account (one account with multiple RingPlus lines) only requires the linking of one Twitter account to fulfill this requirement for all lines in the family account.

I think its only technically possible to link one twitter account per R+ login.

Have there been any social requirements other than linking a twitter account? (Facebook or other requirements.)

For those that have separated their family members into one line per account (normally for privacy), a Twitter account may be needed for each line (depending upon social requirements for the current plan).

Though, one could use the same twitter account across multiple R+ logins.

BTW, does pressing 0 during ringbacks always send out a tweet on the linked twitter account or only if done during an ad?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:12:29 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by tennavan:

It was speculation based on the following factors:

Interesting speculation...

Due to delays in the implementation of some promotions and plan bonuses, I delayed posting about the free (of recurring monthly charges) "FluidCall 50 VoIP" plan (50 mins free international calling to special international destinations, unlimited RP-to-RP calling, no cellular minutes, no SMS, no 3G/LTE data) because its implementation was via a list (similar to the "upgrade waiting list"), and there were no official replies to RP Moderator/EC inquiries.

I received the plan in less than a week, but some have been waiting for over a month...

said by tennavan:

* The recent enforcement of "one outgoing call every 60 days" rule along

I should mention that this is not the first time that RingPlus has enforced the rules, and due to recent enforcement, I would suggest that it would be a good idea for everyone to confirm that the social requirements (if any) for their current plan(s) have been met.

At the present time, a family account (one account with multiple RingPlus lines) only requires the linking of one Twitter account to fulfill this requirement for all lines in the family account.

For those that have separated their family members into one line per account (normally for privacy), a Twitter account may be needed for each line (depending upon social requirements for the current plan).

said by tennavan:

with the recent introduction of "no ad" plans suggests that the RingPlus Radio product may not be giving them the returns that they wanted to see.

I was pondering this...

This may also be a response to the "voice lag" issue experience by some (but not all) RP members.

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The Truly Free 4 Trial plan is now available.

quote:
Truly Free 4 Plan - Price: $0/mo

Includes:

100 Talk
100 Text
100 MMS
100 MB of Full-Speed LTE data

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The Truly Free 4 Plan is a 30-day free trial of RingPlus services.

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BTW - Those who purchased Lifetime Member+ subscriptions (when this topic was first created) passed their break-even point last month, and have been "riding the gravy train" for one month.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:39:38 EDT

brg posted :

said by SCADAGeo:

I'm surprised about termination when there are recurring monthly payments.

Thanks for this information.

Actually, I should amend/partially retract my own statement. Using Tracfone mostly entails purchasing buckets of minutes/texts/data/time. So, I misspoke suggesting it is a monthly type service. But, Tracfone does have some monthly plans ("value plans"), and periodic "autopay" mechanisms that amount to the same thing. I personally have read the Ts and Cs language about termination for nonuse -- I looked it up because I have a Tracfone in a drawer. The language is broad enough to cover even those on the value plans...

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:52:42 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by brg:

(2) some carriers will dump you for nonuse even if you are paying a monthly bill. Tracfone, for example, has a similar provision (but: 6 months?) that applies to its prepaid services.

I'm surprised about termination when there are recurring monthly payments.

Thanks for this information.

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For Android users who may be forgetful, searching the Google Play store for a "call scheduling" app may yield a beneficial solution.

I'd also recommend the "RP Samara" app for a visual indication of plan usage, and configuring "RP Samara" to set an alert when there are less than X days remaining in plan.

Personally, I use Asterisk .call files for weekly testing of DIDs.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:53:30 EDT

brg posted :

said by JTS33:

This one call in the last 60 days applies even to the "paid" plans in which a certain $$ amount top-up was required to start?

RingPlus terminology is important.

A plan that does not have recurring monthly fees is considered a "Free Plan", even if it required an "initial top-up." That top-up was (allegedly) money in the bank to cover potential overages.

If that is the kind of plan that you mean (a plan that you are erroneously calling a "paid plan"), yes, the one call in the last 60 days rule applies.

I do not think there is a similar provision covering what actually are considered "paid" plans: plans for which there are monthly charges...

But even so: (1) this provision, or something like it, was always in the TOS to which you are obliged to comply whether you read it or not (remember that check-box or similar that says "I agree to be bound by the terms and conditions"?), and (2) some carriers will dump you for nonuse even if you are paying a monthly bill. Tracfone, for example, has a similar provision (but: 6 months?) that applies to its prepaid services.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sun, 17 Jul 2016 01:28:18 EDT

JTS33 posted :

said by tennavan:

Latest News From RingPlus:
* The latest plans from RingPlus use Sprint's phone service directly and bypass the FluidCall servers. The new plans do not offer FluidCall service. This might be the first move towards discontinuing the FluidCall service.
* There are multiple reports that RingPlus silently downgraded the accounts of people without usage in the last 60 days to the "Truly Free" plan. You may want to check your account information if you are an infrequent RingPlus user.
* RingPlus recently changed its TOS regarding inactivity from "If you do not make calls using your Free Plan for 60 days, your plan may be expired" to "If you do not make calls using your Free Plan for 60 days, RingPlus may, in its sole discretion and without notice, expire, suspend, terminate or downgrade your Service".

Sources: »www.howardforums.com/sho ··· w-Plans/ and »slickdeals.net/g00//f/89 ··· ing-soon and »social.ringplus.net/disc ··· ose-this

This one call in the last 60 days applies even to the "paid" plans in which a certain $$ amount top-up was required to start?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:27:29 EDT

tennavan posted : It was speculation based on the following factors:

* The recent enforcement of "one outgoing call every 60 days" rule along with the recent introduction of "no ad" plans suggests that the RingPlus Radio product may not be giving them the returns that they wanted to see.
* RingPlus Radio relies upon the FluidCall technology to deliver the ringback tone ads.
* RingPlus Radio and FluidCall have a history of outages and other stability problems.

I corrected the syntax in the original post to better match my intent.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sat, 16 Jul 2016 12:56:06 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by tennavan:

Sources: »www.howardforums.com/sho ··· w-Plans/ and »slickdeals.net/g00//f/89 ··· ing-soon

Thanks for the links.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:10:22 EDT

taoman posted :

said by tennavan:

It appears that FluidCall may be discontinued in the future if this test is successful.

I am curious what you are basing this comment on? I saw nothing in the links you provided to infer that FluidCall might be discontinued. What am I missing?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:28:58 EDT

tennavan posted : Latest News From RingPlus:
* The latest plans from RingPlus use Sprint's phone service directly and bypass the FluidCall servers. The new plans do not offer FluidCall service. This might be the first move towards discontinuing the FluidCall service.
* There are multiple reports that RingPlus silently downgraded the accounts of people without usage in the last 60 days to the "Truly Free" plan. You may want to check your account information if you are an infrequent RingPlus user.
* RingPlus recently changed its TOS regarding inactivity from "If you do not make calls using your Free Plan for 60 days, your plan may be expired" to "If you do not make calls using your Free Plan for 60 days, RingPlus may, in its sole discretion and without notice, expire, suspend, terminate or downgrade your Service".

Sources: »www.howardforums.com/sho ··· w-Plans/ and »slickdeals.net/g00//f/89 ··· ing-soon and »social.ringplus.net/disc ··· ose-this

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:46:29 EDT

SCADAGeo posted : Very interesting. Thanks for the update. :)

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:43:54 EDT

Bogen posted :

said by SCADAGeo:

said by Bogen:

How are you aware that it occurs at the beginning if the new cycle rather than at the time the upgrade from TF to another plan is ordered?
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What kind of friction does that potentially avoid?

You bring up valid points.

What used to be true when I went through the process may no longer be true today.

Please let us know what happens during your upgrade. :)

@Bogen,

Would you please provide an update for RP's current upgrade and billing practice?

Unusually, I wasn't charged a top up either immediately nor when the upgrade kicked in. I remained with a zero balance. I attribute this to the fact the plan I switched to is one of the rare ones that have no automatic top up requirement. (The new plan did require an initial top up for new lines/non-upgrades.) I don't think this experience can be assumed to be similar with the typical plans that do require an automatic top up.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:23:21 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by SCADAGeo:

said by Bogen:

How are you aware that it occurs at the beginning if the new cycle rather than at the time the upgrade from TF to another plan is ordered?
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What kind of friction does that potentially avoid?

You bring up valid points.

What used to be true when I went through the process may no longer be true today.

Please let us know what happens during your upgrade. :)

@Bogen,

Would you please provide an update for RP's current upgrade and billing practice?

said by hok:

In other words, neither RingPlus line SIP credential in Nexus 5 native phone app work in term of DTMF required for navigating through the menu.

said by SCADAGeo:

Please be aware that it may take 12+ days before you receive an initial response.

@hok,

I'm curious if you've had a response?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:38:32 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by SCADAGeo:

I'll try to create a new account later tonight or tomorrow for DTMF testing, as time permits. :)

Sorry it took so long. :(

Impacted schedule, and I was waiting for the free RP VoIP only account credentials (still haven't received it :( ).

I created a PBXes.org free account (hopefully it will last longer than a month), a RP trunk (existing credentials) with DTMF inband, outbound route, and extension with DTMF inband.

Using CSipSimple (DTMF inband) over LTE/3G, I was able to call Walgreens (800-925-4733) and navigate through the voice menus.

said by hok:

OK, I added another RingPlus line SIP credential into Nexus 5 native phone app and used it to call Walgreens at 1-800-925-4733. DTMF works perfectly just like the other RingPlus line.

Just tried to use it to pay Frontier by calling 1.800.801.6652 due to paying via their web site got following:

I just called the Frontier number (CSipSimple, PBXes.org, RP Trunk), selected option 2 (former Verizon), and was prompted for a Verizon account number (DTMF is working for me).

It appears that your situation is similar to Voip-Dave's.

I would suggest filing support tickets for your RP lines at:

»support.ringplus.net
-or-
»ringplusinc.freshdesk.com (in case you see a certificate error with above link)

It's a third-party support group (FreshDesk), and may require the creation of a new support account (if you don't currently have one).

Please be aware that it may take 12+ days before you receive an initial response.

Free SIMs directly from Sprint!

Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:25:23 EDT

hok posted : For people have or are planning to have universal phone(s) [phone that is capable to work with every carrier in the United States (both GSM and CDMA) as well as around the world] and Verizon iPhone 5s, 5c, iPad Air and iPad Mini 2 that need Sprint SIM to sign up RingPlus or any Sprint MVNO or Sprint directly, you can get SIMs directly shipped from Sprint for free that is in addition to Apple Stores always have SIMs for every carrier in the United States free of charge to hand out. However, please note only Sprint SIMs have different models for different set of devices. The SIM currently directly shipped from Sprint for free specifically fit for following devices:

iPhone 6s
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 5s (Verizon only)
iPhone 5c (Verizon only)
iPad Air 2
iPad Air (Verizon only)
iPad Mini 4
iPad Mini 3
iPad Mini 2 (Verizon only)
iPad Pro
Nexus 6 (32 & 64 GB – black/white)
Nexus 5 (16 & 32 GB – black/white/red)
Nexus 5X (all versions)
Nexus 6P (all versions)
HTC One A9 (Sprint Version only)
Motorola X Pure Edition (16, 32 & 64 GB – all colors)

Coming Soon:
Samsung Galaxy S7 Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S7 edge Special Edition
Moto G4
Moto G4 Plus

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:44:15 EDT

hok posted :

said by hok:

OK, I added another RingPlus line SIP credential into Nexus 5 native phone app and used it to call Walgreens at 1-800-925-4733. DTMF works perfectly just like the other RingPlus line.

Just tried to use it to pay Frontier by calling 1.800.801.6652 due to paying via their web site got following:

"Access Error

Due to technical issues, the system is unable to process your request at this time. We apologize for any inconvenience. Please try your request again later or contact Customer Service."

In other words, neither RingPlus line SIP credential in Nexus 5 native phone app work in term of DTMF required for navigating through the menu.

Afterward, I used Hangouts to call 1.800.801.6652, DTMF navigation worked fine, but found out it cost $3.50 to pay by phone so I will wait until Frontier fixes the web payment interface. :)

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:34:24 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by SCADAGeo:

said by hok:

I do not have any third party SIP app installed as I only use Android stock native dialer -- Phone to register to all SIP servers, sorry!

No worries! :)

I only have access to Android 4.x, and will try using it's native dialer later tonight.

I confirmed that when I switched to the native Android 4.x SIP dialer (LTE/3G directly registered to sip.ringplus.net), it overrides RingPlus Radio with a self-generated North American ring-back tone.

Using the same phone with CSipSimple (LTE/3G directly registered to sip.ringplus.net), I can hear RingPlus Radio.

said by hok:

As always, anyone can create a (and only one) free account via their web site, neither any hardware nor software requirement. I have been with them since September 14, 2006. :o

Unfortunately, our experiences differ. :(

I had a free account for less than a month in April 2011, when it was auto-cancelled by PBXes, along with offer to "upgrade" to a paid plan. Since I made less than 10 minutes of test calls, I didn't bother to "upgrade".

I also tried to create a new account for a nephew in July 2013, and although the free account link was present, clicking on it lead to a message about no free accounts available at that time.

I had to use the SipDroid method to create the new account for him.

I'll try to create a new account later tonight or tomorrow for DTMF testing, as time permits. :)

said by Bogen:

How are you aware that it occurs at the beginning if the new cycle rather than at the time the upgrade from TF to another plan is ordered?
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What kind of friction does that potentially avoid?

You bring up valid points.

What used to be true when I went through the process may no longer be true today.

Please let us know what happens during your upgrade. :)

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:25:36 EDT

Bogen posted :

said by Bogen:

When upgrading on the dashboard from TF (with zero top up balance) to another plan, with the new plan taking effect only after the end of the billing cycle, is the top up amount billed immediately or is it billed when the plan change goes into effect?

said by SCADAGeo:

The top-up amount is charged to the default credit card on file for the line to be upgraded, at the beginning of the new billing cycle.

How are you aware that it occurs at the beginning if the new cycle rather than at the time the upgrade from TF to another plan is ordered?

said by SCADAGeo:

The frictionless method to ensure the upgrade occurs is to manually top-up the TF2/3 line prior to the beginning of the new billing cycle.

What kind of friction does that potentially avoid?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:21:45 EDT

hok posted : As always, anyone can create a (and only one) free account via their web site, neither any hardware nor software requirement. I have been with them since September 14, 2006. :o

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:13:04 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by hok:

I do not have any third party SIP app installed as I only use Android stock native dialer -- Phone to register to all SIP servers, sorry!

No worries! :)

I only have access to Android 4.x, and will try using it's native dialer later tonight.

said by hok:

Now, can some one confirm DTMF is broken with PBXes?

Is SipDroid still required for the creation a free account at PBXes?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sun, 12 Jun 2016 06:44:54 EDT

hok posted :

said by SCADAGeo:

Is the native dialer directly registered to sip.ringplus.net over LTE/3G?

Yes, either over LTE/3G or Wi-Fi, hand over and switching automatically

said by SCADAGeo:

I'm curious as to what you hear when a SIP app (directly registered to sip.ringplus.net over LTE/3G) is used to make the call?

I do not have any third party SIP app installed as I only use Android stock native dialer -- Phone to register to all SIP servers, sorry!

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:15:47 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by hok:

OK, I added another RingPlus line SIP credential into Nexus 5 native phone app and used it to call Walgreens at 1-800-925-4733. DTMF works perfectly just like the other RingPlus line.

Good to know it's working on both lines.

said by hok:

Called 1-712-432-5335 via both RingPlus lines SIP credential got same result, one ring then one ring back with North American ring-back tone then BBC news.

Is the native dialer directly registered to sip.ringplus.net over LTE/3G?

I'm curious as to what you hear when a SIP app (directly registered to sip.ringplus.net over LTE/3G) is used to make the call?

said by Bogen:

The top-up amount is charged to the default credit card on file for the line to be upgraded, at the beginning of the new billing cycle.

The frictionless method to ensure the upgrade occurs is to manually top-up the TF2/3 line prior to the beginning of the new billing cycle.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Thu, 09 Jun 2016 11:37:12 EDT

Bogen posted : When upgrading on the dashboard from TF (with zero top up balance) to another plan, with the new plan taking effect only after the end of the billing cycle, is the top up amount billed immediately or is it billed when the plan change goes into effect?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Thu, 09 Jun 2016 11:02:44 EDT

hok posted : Called 1-712-432-5335 via both RingPlus lines SIP credential got same result, one ring then one ring back with North American ring-back tone then BBC news.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Thu, 09 Jun 2016 09:31:34 EDT

taoman posted :

said by hok:

OK, I added another RingPlus line SIP credential into Nexus 5 native phone app and used it to call Walgreens at 1-800-925-4733. DTMF works perfectly just like the other RingPlus line. Via either RingPlus line, I have never heard ring back tone via SIP, only via cellular.

Try calling 712-432-5335 (BBC news) and see if you hear a ring back tone.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Thu, 09 Jun 2016 03:53:05 EDT

hok posted : OK, I added another RingPlus line SIP credential into Nexus 5 native phone app and used it to call Walgreens at 1-800-925-4733. DTMF works perfectly just like the other RingPlus line. Via either RingPlus line, I have never heard ring back tone via SIP, only via cellular.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Thu, 09 Jun 2016 02:13:16 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by taoman:

said by hok:

Is it normal that using RingPlus Wifi FluidCall would not hear the ring back tone? I only heard ring back tone when I was using Sprint cellular network, not via data with RingPlus Wifi FluidCall.

I'd say it depends. I just called 2 different numbers thru FluidCall and heard no ring back tone at all. Called a different number and I did hear a ring back tone. Go figure.

There have also been reports (oldbooks1? and chatmsd?) that when the news channel only is enabled, RingBack Radio/Tone may not always be heard.

said by hok:

two of them were different RingPlus lines in PBXes
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Finally, I just added a SIP account with RingPlus SIP credential in one of mobile phones to make test call, it works! :D After all, there is no DTMF configuration in native mobile phone app at all.

May I suggest testing DTMF using the credentials of the other line, just to verify that both lines are working with DTMF?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 07 Jun 2016 20:01:03 EDT

hok posted : I have tried five different trucks; two of them were different RingPlus lines in PBXes to call Walgreens at 1-800-925-4733 from three different extensions with three different mobile phones but only two different native phone apps, no difference! :mad: It was working fine a while back. I must admit that I have been using over the top (OTT) apps to make calls for a while (without using PBXes at all).:hmm:

Thereafter, I went out to use mobile data to make calls via PBXes instead using Wi-Fi to see if it makes any difference.:p With two different phones, two different native phone apps and two different extensions from PBXes, still no dice! :mad:

Finally, I just added a SIP account with RingPlus SIP credential in one of mobile phones to make test call, it works! :D After all, there is no DTMF configuration in native mobile phone app at all.

Now, can some one confirm DTMF is broken with PBXes?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 07 Jun 2016 19:48:29 EDT

taoman posted :

said by hok:

Is it normal that using RingPlus Wifi FluidCall would not hear the ring back tone? I only heard ring back tone when I was using Sprint cellular network, not via data with RingPlus Wifi FluidCall.

I'd say it depends. I just called 2 different numbers thru FluidCall and heard no ring back tone at all. Called a different number and I did hear a ring back tone. Go figure.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 07 Jun 2016 19:28:44 EDT

hok posted : Is it normal that using RingPlus Wifi FluidCall would not hear the ring back tone? I only heard ring back tone when I was using Sprint cellular network, not via data with RingPlus Wifi FluidCall.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 07 Jun 2016 18:09:02 EDT

taoman posted :

said by hok:

Just tried inband did not make any difference, was on info, then also tried rfc2833 and then auto that were all selections I got, none of them work. I did hear DTMF tone at my end clearly, but it appears that the other end did not hear it at all.

There are a couple users posting on Ring+ social forums experiencing the same thing. It appears to be line specific. DTMF works fine on both of my lines. VOIP-dave on Ring+ forum has one line that works and others that don't. A trouble ticket has been filed for this issue but I wouldn't hold my breath for a resolution.
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Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 07 Jun 2016 17:42:11 EDT

hok posted : Just tried inband did not make any difference, was on info, then also tried rfc2833 and then auto that were all selections I got, none of them work. I did hear DTMF tone at my end clearly, but it appears that the other end did not hear it at all. :(

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 07 Jun 2016 16:30:28 EDT

SCADAGeo posted : I don't use PBXes, but my FluidCall trunks are using ulaw with dtmfmode=inband.

A good number for testing DTMF is Walgreens : 1-800-925-4733.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:43:45 EDT

hok posted : What DTMF mode you guys have for RingPlus Wifi FluidCall truck in PBXes that works the best?

Re: Best Handset for Hotspot Use?

Fri, 03 Jun 2016 18:26:45 EDT

SCADAGeo posted : I use LTE Discovery to show the band (options -> settings -> Live Notifications: checked), along with Ookla's Speedtest (images are cropped).

A CDMA call will turn off the cellular data radio, then turn it back on once the CDMA call has been completed.

This is when her phone connects to LTE band 25 for a few seconds, but by the time the Speedtest app is ready to begin a test, her phone has switched to LTE band 26.

I also use LTE Discovery to restart the cellular data radio (Discover tab -> Reset data connection -> Start button), and upon restart, it switches to LTE band 41.

3G is manually selected via System Settings -> Mobile network settings -> Preferred network type: CDMA.

Re: Best Handset for Hotspot Use?

Fri, 03 Jun 2016 16:44:42 EDT

Will Hill posted : What app did you use to generate a speed test that shows the speed on each band?

Re: Best Handset for Hotspot Use?

Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:06:44 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by Bogen:

Would a Sprint LTE TriBand model (are those the ones they call Spark network compatible?) offer the best speeds? Or would the LTE single band (I think Band 25 / 1900 is the primary Sprint LTE band?) work just as effectively?

I believe a tri-band device would probably work best (check your area for Sprint coverage).

I'm barely able to pick up Band 25 on wife's phone, and it switches to Band 26 (850 MHz) before I can perform a speed test.

Here are speedtest results from today (Northern California - prime time):

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Data radio reset and band detection via LTE Discovery.

Hopefully, someone else can post their prime time results, too. :)

Best Handset for Hotspot Use?

Thu, 02 Jun 2016 18:11:14 EDT

Bogen posted : I'm looking for the most effective Sprint-compatible handset for hotspot-only use. Which R+ compatible LTE handset would be the most effective for hotspot use? The smartphone will remain in one place, attached to a power outlet, unmoved at all times.

Also, how will be the battery react considering the phone will remain connected to the power outlet 24/7?

Which compatible phone would be best suited for this purpose, with good WiFi/hotspot range, reception and ability to connect with several devices simultaneously.

And how much could I expect to pay for a used handset for this purpose, with the intent at keeping the cost of the device at a minimum? (Who would be a good source to purchase this device?)

Any specific phone models anyone can recommend? (R+ doesn't permit data-only/MiFi type devices on most plans, so I'm avoiding that.)

Would a Sprint LTE TriBand model (are those the ones they call Spark network compatible?) offer the best speeds? Or would the LTE single band (I think Band 25 / 1900 is the primary Sprint LTE band?) work just as effectively?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Tue, 31 May 2016 19:42:39 EDT

SCADAGeo posted : Yes.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Mon, 30 May 2016 16:31:20 EDT

josephf posted : Do throttled plans work on Sprint's LTE network?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Mon, 30 May 2016 14:20:41 EDT

SCADAGeo posted : I'm guessing that the flag was raised when (s)he listed it for sale in the RingPlus classified. It was listed for over a week, hence why I thought it was sold.

I was on the Beyond plan, wife was on Continuum plan - both were throttled to 256 kbps.

Throttled plans do appear now and then, and if the throttled speed isn't specified in the plan details, be aware that 2G = 64 kbps, and 3G = 256 kbps.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sun, 29 May 2016 22:32:57 EDT

Bogen posted : Interesting link to that thread. Reading it appears to indicate said user had his plan revoked even before he posted to that forum. So raising a red flag doesn't seem to have triggered the revocation.

BTW, which plan is throttled at 256k? Do they frequently offer throttled plans?

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Sat, 28 May 2016 16:24:17 EDT

SCADAGeo posted :

said by Bogen:

Rather than accept at face value that they're throttling at the rate described in the plan description, or even assume they're throttling at all, I'd rather someone with an officially throttled plan to report what speed they're testing at.

When I was on a throttled 256 kbps plan (3G only phone), testing yielded a slightly higher number, around 300 kbps for downloading.

Uploading was not throttled at that time.

said by Will Hill:

Can someone shed light on how strictly RingPlus enforces not permitting hotspot data-only devices to be used? It appears the device is accepted for activation and works even though it is apparently not in line with their official policy.

I read that data-only devices are accepted for paid plans only, not free (of monthly charges) plans.

If a data-only device is on a free plan, a "don't ask, don't tell." policy seems to apply.

There were a couple of data-only devices listed in the RingPlus classifieds that I thought were sold, but reading between the lines, it's not a good idea to raise a big red flag if it's on a free plan.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Thu, 26 May 2016 19:01:54 EDT

Will Hill posted : Can someone shed light on how strictly RingPlus enforces not permitting hotspot data-only devices to be used? It appears the device is accepted for activation and works even though it is apparently not in line with their official policy.

From a more technical perspective, if I were to use a smartphone as a hotspot (and only as a hotspot which would always be attached to a power outlet and remain stationary in one spot), would its performance in terms of speed, WiFi range and number of connected devices, be any better or worse than using a data-only MiFi-type mobile device?

And any suggestions as far as a cheap smartphone I could purchase, with a good quality LTE hotspot performance, even if a used device? Which are good models and where are inexpensive sources.

Re: [General] Unlimited Lifetime SIP Trunk $85 with free Sprint cell service

Thu, 26 May 2016 18:38:26 EDT

Bogen posted : Rather than accept at face value that they're throttling at the rate described in the plan description, or even assume they're throttling at all, I'd rather someone with an officially throttled plan to report what speed they're testing at.