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onebadmofo gat gnitsoP Premium Member join:2002-03-30 Pennsylvania	onebadmofo Premium Member 2016-May-2 10:40 am iMessage "why the hell is he posting about iMessage in this forum?!" Actually I'm not. I'm simply wondering if Samsung has a similar messaging app. Or if there is one in the works. I read some where a few months ago that there was talk about Samsung or Android (I can't remember which), removing the SMS ability and going with a messaging app that is "off the network". Is this true? I also could be remembering this wrong as well. ...i dunno.
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON	donoreo Premium Member 2016-May-2 10:46 am Google Hangouts can work that way. It supports SMS and it's own messaging.
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ptrowski Got Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT	ptrowski Premium Member 2016-May-2 10:47 am I use Hangouts, I like it a lot, works just like iMessage.
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onebadmofo gat gnitsoP Premium Member join:2002-03-30 Pennsylvania	onebadmofo Premium Member 2016-May-2 8:30 pm But was there any mentioning in any articles that Samsung would somehow make their text messages more secure. ...or how ever the hell Apple does it. I don't know. See I read something months ago that said Samsung was going to create their own messaging app. Which would allow the users to text each other off of the network. And in doing this it would somehow make it more secure. My whole reason for asking this is, at work we have this MDM that can pull the content of the text messages from Android phones. But it can't do so on iOS devices. So there is something with iOS that prevents this form happening. And it's that something that Samsung was rumored to do with their proposed messaging app. Funny thing is, this MDM is the only one I know of that can do this. No other big name, well known MDM offers this feature. Which then makes me think...is this feature even legal to do? If not, we have to find another MDM. Which is ok by me cause this one truly sucks. But the HIPAA compliance moron believes we "need" to have this feature. The MDM I'm talking about is GO! Enterprise.
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burner50 Proud Union THUG Premium Member join:2002-06-05 Iowa	burner50 Premium Member 2016-May-2 9:55 pm said by onebadmofo: But was there any mentioning in any articles that Samsung would somehow make their text messages more secure. ...or how ever the hell Apple does it. I don't know. See I read something months ago that said Samsung was going to create their own messaging app. Which would allow the users to text each other off of the network. And in doing this it would somehow make it more secure. My whole reason for asking this is, at work we have this MDM that can pull the content of the text messages from Android phones. But it can't do so on iOS devices. So there is something with iOS that prevents this form happening. And it's that something that Samsung was rumored to do with their proposed messaging app. Funny thing is, this MDM is the only one I know of that can do this. No other big name, well known MDM offers this feature. Which then makes me think...is this feature even legal to do? If not, we have to find another MDM. Which is ok by me cause this one truly sucks. But the HIPAA compliance moron believes we "need" to have this feature. The MDM I'm talking about is GO! Enterprise. I would say that feature is likely end-to-end encryption... Traditional SMS doesn't enjoy such security. I don't believe that Hangouts does either. I believe that they only have "in transit" encryption... meaning an unscrupulous app may be able to intercept the content of the message. I would try it and see if your MDM can "read" those texts... Otherwise I would tell your IT department to stop intercepting text messages, or your staff to not violate HIPAA in their text messages... We can do it all day over an easily intercept-able radio transmission.
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burner50	burner50 to onebadmofo Premium Member 2016-May-2 10:07 pm to onebadmofo Something else I thought of... The permissions for enterprise level security applications are radically different between iOS and Android. With Android, an IT department can turn over the entire phone to the security application. I'm not sure that any such broad set of permissions on iOS exists... That may be another reason that the "security" of the text messages is better on iOS... Because there is no mechanism in place for your corporate nanny-ware to read them.
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GLIMMER join:2004-01-17 Fisher, IL	GLIMMER Member 2016-May-3 11:42 am said by burner50: Something else I thought of... The permissions for enterprise level security applications are radically different between iOS and Android. With Android, an IT department can turn over the entire phone to the security application. I'm not sure that any such broad set of permissions on iOS exists... That may be another reason that the "security" of the text messages is better on iOS... Because there is no mechanism in place for your corporate nanny-ware to read them. My wife is an epic programmer and there is an encrypted text messaging system built into epic. But then again the health system would have to pay for that. My wifes hospital is going to android handhelds for all workers.
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Nick Purveyor of common sense MVM join:2000-10-29 Smithtown, NY	Nick to onebadmofo MVM 2016-May-3 5:35 pm to onebadmofo WhatsApp also offers end to end encryption, unfortunately it's a single device rather than multiples. »blog.whatsapp.com/100006 ··· cryption
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onebadmofo gat gnitsoP Premium Member join:2002-03-30 Pennsylvania	onebadmofo to burner50 Premium Member 2016-May-4 9:02 am to burner50 said by burner50: said by onebadmofo: But was there any mentioning in any articles that Samsung would somehow make their text messages more secure. ...or how ever the hell Apple does it. I don't know. See I read something months ago that said Samsung was going to create their own messaging app. Which would allow the users to text each other off of the network. And in doing this it would somehow make it more secure. My whole reason for asking this is, at work we have this MDM that can pull the content of the text messages from Android phones. But it can't do so on iOS devices. So there is something with iOS that prevents this form happening. And it's that something that Samsung was rumored to do with their proposed messaging app. Funny thing is, this MDM is the only one I know of that can do this. No other big name, well known MDM offers this feature. Which then makes me think...is this feature even legal to do? If not, we have to find another MDM. Which is ok by me cause this one truly sucks. But the HIPAA compliance moron believes we "need" to have this feature. The MDM I'm talking about is GO! Enterprise. I would say that feature is likely end-to-end encryption... Traditional SMS doesn't enjoy such security. I don't believe that Hangouts does either. I believe that they only have "in transit" encryption... meaning an unscrupulous app may be able to intercept the content of the message. I would try it and see if your MDM can "read" those texts... Otherwise I would tell your IT department to stop intercepting text messages, or your staff to not violate HIPAA in their text messages... We can do it all day over an easily intercept-able radio transmission. Well we were told we "needed" to be able to pull a report on texting in the event someone abused it and used it for PHI communications. I could care less what people text back and forth and they're adults. They should know better. I mean what's to prevent them from using their own devices at home to do such things. We can only prevent so much. now when you say, "We can do it all day over an easily intercept-able radio transmission." Are you saying that the text messages on Androids can be easily intercepted?
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GLIMMER join:2004-01-17 Fisher, IL	GLIMMER Member 2016-May-4 9:43 am most health systems dont allow patient info in a text between employees anyway. With the push to all digital medical records its easy to see who accessed what on the network. here is a good story »cio-health-it.blogspot.com/
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burner50 Proud Union THUG Premium Member join:2002-06-05 Iowa	burner50 to onebadmofo Premium Member 2016-May-5 12:16 am to onebadmofo said by onebadmofo: now when you say, "We can do it all day over an easily intercept-able radio transmission." Are you saying that the text messages on Androids can be easily intercepted? No, I'm saying you can discuss patient information without violating hipaa. On an ambulance, we transmit all pertinent information, over a two way radio, that is guaranteed to be received by hundreds of other people, without violating HIPAA. Don't read too much into what I said.
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