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gabmasterjcc
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Fairfax, VA

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Karl is especially grouchy today

I am no fan of AT&T, but man to put false information in the title and first sentence is poor form. First off, no prices were raised. More specifically, "raising prices on many of the company's customers," is a flat out lie. No one is being forced to the new plans. Now as for the plans themselves, it is a wash at the lower plans. You have to account for the reduced line access charges. Also, the no overage part does have some value (depends on the user how much). When you get to the high data plans they are definitely cheaper. If you need me to work out some examples, let me know. It also wasn't necessary to add the words "just to connect their phones." It is unnecessarily negative given that it pretty much matches industry norms.

Rob
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join:2001-08-25
Miami, FL

Rob

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Reduced line access charge? It went up by 5 dollars per device for me, or $10 monthly, 120 yearly plus taxes. I just got hit with an increase. Never thought this would happen.
gabmasterjcc
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Fairfax, VA

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said by Rob:

Reduced line access charge? It went up by 5 dollars per device for me, or $10 monthly, 120 yearly plus taxes. I just got hit with an increase. Never thought this would happen.

Your plan did not go up. It is still the same. You have to switch to the new plan for it to change. The only plan that is worse really is the 15GB vs 16GB. I view the no overage/reduced speed data and an extra 1GB of data as definitely worth at least $5 for the price difference on all the other plans. If you do the math these changes are really a non-event. No worse, but not better as a whole.

Rob
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Miami, FL

Rob

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So you're saying that the line access fee doesn't change unless you change to one of the new plans that doesn't have overage fees on data usage?
gabmasterjcc
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Fairfax, VA

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      Data Line 1	2	3	4
 300MB	20	25	45	70	95	120
// 1GB	30	20	50	70	90	110
   2GB	30	25	55	80	105	130
// 3GB	40	20	60	80	100	120
   5GB	50	25	75	100	125	150
// 6GB	60	20	80	100	120	140
//10GB	80	20	100	120	140	160
  15GB	100	15	115	130	145	160
//16GB	90	20	110	130	150	170
//25GB	110	20	130	150	170	190
  25GB	175	15	190	205	220	235
//30GB	135	20	155	175	195	215
  30GB	225	15	240	255	270	285
 

Edit:
I had added a link to a table, but that table has some issues with it.
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said by Rob:

So you're saying that the line access fee doesn't change unless you change to one of the new plans that doesn't have overage fees on data usage?

That was the point I was making about Karl's statement that AT&T is raising prices on existing customers. They aren't. Existing customers can choose for themselves if the new plans add value and change then.

Rob
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join:2001-08-25
Miami, FL

Rob

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You keep talking about plans, but I'm talking about the line access fee which appears to be increasing across the board, whether a customer changes their plan or stays on the existing plan.
gabmasterjcc
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said by Rob:

You keep talking about plans, but I'm talking about the line access fee which appears to be increasing across the board, whether a customer changes their plan or stays on the existing plan.

Where do you see that announcement?

Edit: To clarify. AT&T announced new plans today. They didn't say anything about the old ones. Other outlets mentioned the old ones aren't changing. It is generally the practice by all the major carriers not to change their customer's existing plans (sometimes that is good for the customer, sometimes it is bad).

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join:2002-12-28
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said by gabmasterjcc:

I view the no overage/reduced speed data and an extra 1GB of data as definitely worth at least $5 for the price difference on all the other plans.

For me I have 15GB for $100 + $15*5 = $175+Tax

Switching to the new 16GB would make it $90 + $15*5 = $165+Tax

Rob
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Miami, FL

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Plans are one thing, the device access fee are another. In AT&T's official announcement they stated that the access fee is now 20, when it was 25 for those on 10GB or less and 15 on 15GB or more.

I'm readying it as that it's now a standard fee of 20 regardless of plan and it affects all customers across the board.

If that's true then all of us have just experienced a significant price increase.
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said by gabmasterjcc:

I view the no overage/reduced speed data and an extra 1GB of data as definitely worth at least $5 for the price difference on all the other plans.

For me I have 15GB for $100 + $15*5 = $175+Tax

Switching to the new 16GB would make it $90 + $15*5 = $165+Tax

Unfortunately for you, the new 16GB plan is $90+20*5 = $190+Tax. The 15GB plan was generally a better value than the new one (unless you get overages).
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said by Rob:

Plans are one thing, the device access fee are another. In AT&T's official announcement they stated that the access fee is now 20, when it was 25 for those on 10GB or less and 15 on 15GB or more.

Their official announcement says no such thing. It never even mentions any of that.
»about.att.com/story/att_ ··· age.html

For smartphones with no annual contract (for example, on AT&T Next, AT&T Next Every Year, or other installment agreements, Bring Your Own, purchase at full price, or month to month term), customers will pay a $20 access charge per smartphone a month for Mobile Share Advantage and $15 per smartphone line a month on Mobile Share Advantage for Business.4 The access charge for basic/features phones will be $20 a month per phone on both plans.

It only mentions the line access fees in conjunction with the new "Mobile Share Advantage" plan.

Rob
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Rob

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The word "new" is absent from their wording. That whole paragraph is ambiguous. It's not clear if it's for new customers, existing customers who switch to a new plan, or for all customers.

I guess we'll find out next month after the new bills are sent out.
gabmasterjcc
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said by Rob:

The word "new" is absent from their wording. That whole paragraph is ambiguous. It's not clear if it's for new customers, existing customers who switch to a new plan, or for all customers.

I guess we'll find out next month after the new bills are sent out.

No ambiguity at all. They make no mention of old plans and in the middle of the sentence they say "for Mobile Share Advantage." You are trying to read something that isn't there. Verizon had the same problem a year ago when they dropped their $15 line access charge on plans 6GB and over. It was a better value to stick with the old plan for some of those people due to that change. AT&T won't change the existing plans.

Rob
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Miami, FL

Rob

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I get it now. The name of those plans are called Mobile Shared Advantage, whereas mine is just Mobile Shared Value Plans. That's the distinction.

In that case I'm sticking with my plan. Thanks.