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Karl is especially grouchy todayI am no fan of AT&T, but man to put false information in the title and first sentence is poor form. First off, no prices were raised. More specifically, "raising prices on many of the company's customers," is a flat out lie. No one is being forced to the new plans. Now as for the plans themselves, it is a wash at the lower plans. You have to account for the reduced line access charges. Also, the no overage part does have some value (depends on the user how much). When you get to the high data plans they are definitely cheaper. If you need me to work out some examples, let me know. It also wasn't necessary to add the words "just to connect their phones." It is unnecessarily negative given that it pretty much matches industry norms. |
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Rob Premium Member join:2001-08-25 Miami, FL |
Rob
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2016-Aug-17 8:43 pm
Reduced line access charge? It went up by 5 dollars per device for me, or $10 monthly, 120 yearly plus taxes. I just got hit with an increase. Never thought this would happen. |
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said by Rob:Reduced line access charge? It went up by 5 dollars per device for me, or $10 monthly, 120 yearly plus taxes. I just got hit with an increase. Never thought this would happen. Your plan did not go up. It is still the same. You have to switch to the new plan for it to change. The only plan that is worse really is the 15GB vs 16GB. I view the no overage/reduced speed data and an extra 1GB of data as definitely worth at least $5 for the price difference on all the other plans. If you do the math these changes are really a non-event. No worse, but not better as a whole. |
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Rob Premium Member join:2001-08-25 Miami, FL |
Rob
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2016-Aug-17 8:54 pm
So you're saying that the line access fee doesn't change unless you change to one of the new plans that doesn't have overage fees on data usage? |
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Data Line 1 2 3 4
300MB 20 25 45 70 95 120
// 1GB 30 20 50 70 90 110
2GB 30 25 55 80 105 130
// 3GB 40 20 60 80 100 120
5GB 50 25 75 100 125 150
// 6GB 60 20 80 100 120 140
//10GB 80 20 100 120 140 160
15GB 100 15 115 130 145 160
//16GB 90 20 110 130 150 170
//25GB 110 20 130 150 170 190
25GB 175 15 190 205 220 235
//30GB 135 20 155 175 195 215
30GB 225 15 240 255 270 285
Edit: I had added a link to a table, but that table has some issues with it. |
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said by Rob:So you're saying that the line access fee doesn't change unless you change to one of the new plans that doesn't have overage fees on data usage? That was the point I was making about Karl's statement that AT&T is raising prices on existing customers. They aren't. Existing customers can choose for themselves if the new plans add value and change then. |
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Rob Premium Member join:2001-08-25 Miami, FL |
Rob
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2016-Aug-17 9:34 pm
You keep talking about plans, but I'm talking about the line access fee which appears to be increasing across the board, whether a customer changes their plan or stays on the existing plan. |
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said by Rob:You keep talking about plans, but I'm talking about the line access fee which appears to be increasing across the board, whether a customer changes their plan or stays on the existing plan. Where do you see that announcement? Edit: To clarify. AT&T announced new plans today. They didn't say anything about the old ones. Other outlets mentioned the old ones aren't changing. It is generally the practice by all the major carriers not to change their customer's existing plans (sometimes that is good for the customer, sometimes it is bad). |
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said by gabmasterjcc:I view the no overage/reduced speed data and an extra 1GB of data as definitely worth at least $5 for the price difference on all the other plans. For me I have 15GB for $100 + $15*5 = $175+Tax Switching to the new 16GB would make it $90 + $15*5 = $165+Tax |
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Rob Premium Member join:2001-08-25 Miami, FL |
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Plans are one thing, the device access fee are another. In AT&T's official announcement they stated that the access fee is now 20, when it was 25 for those on 10GB or less and 15 on 15GB or more.
I'm readying it as that it's now a standard fee of 20 regardless of plan and it affects all customers across the board.
If that's true then all of us have just experienced a significant price increase. |
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said by Napsterbater:said by gabmasterjcc:I view the no overage/reduced speed data and an extra 1GB of data as definitely worth at least $5 for the price difference on all the other plans. For me I have 15GB for $100 + $15*5 = $175+Tax Switching to the new 16GB would make it $90 + $15*5 = $165+Tax Unfortunately for you, the new 16GB plan is $90+20*5 = $190+Tax. The 15GB plan was generally a better value than the new one (unless you get overages). |
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said by Rob:Plans are one thing, the device access fee are another. In AT&T's official announcement they stated that the access fee is now 20, when it was 25 for those on 10GB or less and 15 on 15GB or more. Their official announcement says no such thing. It never even mentions any of that. » about.att.com/story/att_ ··· age.htmlFor smartphones with no annual contract (for example, on AT&T Next, AT&T Next Every Year, or other installment agreements, Bring Your Own, purchase at full price, or month to month term), customers will pay a $20 access charge per smartphone a month for Mobile Share Advantage and $15 per smartphone line a month on Mobile Share Advantage for Business.4 The access charge for basic/features phones will be $20 a month per phone on both plans. It only mentions the line access fees in conjunction with the new "Mobile Share Advantage" plan. |
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Rob Premium Member join:2001-08-25 Miami, FL |
Rob
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2016-Aug-18 7:20 am
The word "new" is absent from their wording. That whole paragraph is ambiguous. It's not clear if it's for new customers, existing customers who switch to a new plan, or for all customers.
I guess we'll find out next month after the new bills are sent out. |
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said by Rob:The word "new" is absent from their wording. That whole paragraph is ambiguous. It's not clear if it's for new customers, existing customers who switch to a new plan, or for all customers.
I guess we'll find out next month after the new bills are sent out. No ambiguity at all. They make no mention of old plans and in the middle of the sentence they say "for Mobile Share Advantage." You are trying to read something that isn't there. Verizon had the same problem a year ago when they dropped their $15 line access charge on plans 6GB and over. It was a better value to stick with the old plan for some of those people due to that change. AT&T won't change the existing plans. |
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Rob Premium Member join:2001-08-25 Miami, FL |
Rob
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2016-Aug-18 7:29 am
I get it now. The name of those plans are called Mobile Shared Advantage, whereas mine is just Mobile Shared Value Plans. That's the distinction.
In that case I'm sticking with my plan. Thanks. |
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