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Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:41:22 EDT

deergod1 posted : I just went through this. Tried several of the new, cool routers like the Netgear R7000 and the ASUS RT-AC87U. I am now BACK to the ASUS RT-N66U with Toastman's Tomato. The guy that convinced me to try again has several installed in large commercial and residential installations with as many as 250 users. I had one and bought two more refurbs for $50 each. With QOS, it's the most stable, fastest setup I have ever had.

Straight As on the DSLReports Speedtest/Bufferbloat too!

My network is never swamped and no one ever complains (now). I run a 50/10 and it's supposedly good for whatever your DOCSIS 3.0 modem can support via your ISP. If you need more than 450Mbps INSIDE your home, run ethernet. My setup handles 30-40 clients with fairly steady demand without issue.

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:20:49 EDT

HELLFIRE posted :

said by Labarr15:

But I constantly have 1 bar of signal on my phone.. and it makes me buffer quite a bit...

Bars / Stars / Good/Better/Best means nothing to me, all I care about is the decibel rating, and -78dbs to me is "borderline."

I presume while the phone is in the computer desk area @-54fBs, no problems with twitch / youtube? If so, then running a 2nd physical cable
between the N66U to a 2nd AP in your bedroom would be the simplest option in my books. Refer to »Wireless Networking Forum FAQ »Using a Wireless Router as an Access Point
for directions how to do this so the 2nd AP acts JUST as a radio and you don't get double NAT.

Regards

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:25:01 EDT

switchman posted : So run a cable and install a Ubiquiti Unifi Ap-AC Lite or another router in AP mode. Or get something like this and install the wifi end in your bedroom. Do not install either unit in a power strip. Plug them directly in the wall. If possible do not have anything with a surge suppressor plugged into the same wall socket as the unit. I have not used these, but a quick look at the manual makes them apear as a real dumbed down AP, but they should work and are the easiest to implement.

TP-Link AC1200 Wi-Fi Range Extender, AV1200 Powerline Edition (TL-WPA8630 KIT)
»www.amazon.com/TP-Link-E ··· 0+KIT%29

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:59:47 EDT

Labarr15 posted : off-the-shelf kit, or DIY kit would both work. I like doing this kind of stuff.

I get -78dBm in my bedroom (upstairs) - On my phone
I get -54dBm at my computer desk (main floor - direct line of sight to router ~20feet) - On my phone
My router is positioned where the TV is located(In the corner of the main floor - Antenna are pointed to the interior of the house (Here is a quick diagram. »i.gyazo.com/6d5b076d1e2b ··· b940.png) - Cannot move the router because that is where the coax is fed up from the ONT from the basement.

I do not know if it is my phone (HTC 10) or the router signal, but I do watch alot of twitch/youtube when in bed.. But I constantly have 1 bar of signal on my phone.. and it makes me buffer quite a bit... This is the biggest reason I am looking for other options...

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:46:49 EDT

anon posted : IMO LR models are more important if your network consists of a lot of tablets/smart phones, or other devices that have small internal antennas. This is because higher dB output from the router won't do anything to improve the routers reception of signal or the tablets broadcast of signal. However, that same quality of having generally lower dB makes it less helpful as a mesh AP.

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Sat, 07 Jan 2017 23:48:21 EDT

bodosom posted :

said by ddrant:

said by switchman:

I would stay away from any of the long range versions.

Why would you not recommend the long range versions?

That's a very good question. Some folks will tell you that they love the indoor LR and get great performance throughout their 4,000 square foot home. The AC-LR is touted as having symmetric performance so it should win except the part about omnidirectional antennas. Others would say modern clients want 5G and the AC-LR is LR in 2.4G. The high power 5G is the AC-Outdoor which is both pricey and deprecated. However the modern LR units are the 2x2 AC-M and the 3x3 AC-M-Pro. Both are spec'd at 183M just like the AC-LR and AC-Outdoor despite significantly different output power. Personally I'd look at the AC-M which should be an all around good performer particularly if placed so the omni antennas are working for you. Otherwise the AC-Lite except for that voltage converter dongle problem if you're set up for 802.11af/at.

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Sat, 07 Jan 2017 21:41:30 EDT

ddrant posted :

said by switchman:

I would stay away from any of the long range versions.

Why would you not recommend the long range versions?

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:43:13 EDT

Labarr15 posted : Sorry to leave everyone hanging. Kinda put this on the back burner because I was so busy..

I was able to fix the router with new power adapter.. Damn cat chewed it and whenever the cord moved.. It would spark and reboot the router...

That being said, I am still going to explore the options. I will reply again with my wireless signals from across the house.

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Fri, 06 Jan 2017 21:18:50 EDT

Ragar posted :

said by austinblock:

Easy recommendation
Netgear R7000

The point was, it is not an "EASY" recommendation when other routers are ranked higher.

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Thu, 05 Jan 2017 16:12:05 EDT

austinblock posted : Why do you say not exactly?
I have two R7000s so I know they work nicely. They are under $200 and are second on the list/link you left

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Thu, 05 Jan 2017 15:41:16 EDT

bodosom posted :

said by switchman:

Mount the APs to the ceiling at central points on each floor and he should be good.

A significant number of people can't/won't mount an AP on the ceiling (or high on a wall). They also expect excellent performance everywhere with one AP near the gateway.

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Thu, 05 Jan 2017 14:20:00 EDT

switchman posted :

said by Ragar:

You read the under $200 part right?

Yes, I also read the rest of it.

"Let me know your recommendation - Even if it's over budget!"

I'm showing the EdgeRouter X, as an example, but the OP would need to select what router he wants based on the features he desires. As you can see, its not much over the $200 mark.

Qty Price Extended
2 Ubiquiti Unifi Ap-AC Lite 78.99 157.98
1 Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X 79.00 79.00
236.98

For an additional $102, the APS could be upgraded to Ubiquiti Networks Unifi 802.11ac Dual-Radio PRO versions.

Mount the APs to the ceiling at central points on each floor and he should be good.

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Wed, 04 Jan 2017 22:48:18 EDT

Ragar posted : Not exactly.

»www.smallnetbuilder.com/ ··· ter/view

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Wed, 04 Jan 2017 22:46:16 EDT

Ragar posted : You read the under $200 part right?

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Wed, 04 Jan 2017 13:18:58 EDT

switchman posted : I would separate the functions. For the wifi, I would go with a couple of Ubiquiti Unifi Access Points, maybe one per floor. I would stay away from any of the long range versions. They would need to be hardwired.

Then the router of your choice.

»www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ ··· i+UniFi+

»www.ubnt.com/products/

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:08:38 EDT

austinblock posted : Easy recommendation
Netgear R7000

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:56:20 EDT

HELLFIRE posted :

said by Labarr15:

I need a router(under $200):
1)Supports N+AC
2)Gamer/Heavy user(s) friendly
3)Streamer friendly(Movies/Sports)
4)Range - Enough for an average house (2 floors)

Do you prefer 192.168.x.x offtheshelf kit, or are you willing to try your hand at DIY / more advanced kit?

What's your expectation of support, if any?

Any other requirement(s) we should be aware of? Size/noise/power draw? POE? Add'n services? etc.

In terms of range, have you done what's called a "wireless site survey" where you walk around with
your AP fixed in one point, and a laptop (if Windows, inssider or netsurveyor) or smartphone measuring
in DECIBELS the wireless signal strength you get around the house?

Otherwise 2nd janderso1 's post.

Regards

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:48:28 EDT

Tikker_LoS posted : I'd just go with what you know

asus AC66U is pretty good to me so far

Re: Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:01:52 EDT

janderso1 posted : Take a look at this thread

»Looking for home router

Looking for a new router (Details inside)

Thu, 29 Dec 2016 00:59:25 EDT

Labarr15 posted : I owned an ASUS RT-N66U until it started giving me major problems this week, and no longer works(stuck with the crappy Verizon router in the meantime....)

I have Verizon FIOS 75/75mpbs internet. And my network will look like this ---> ONT----(coaxil)-->Verizon MI424WRrevI----(ethernet)-->*Insert wireless router here*=====all connected devices.

I need a router(under $200):
1)Supports N+AC
2)Gamer/Heavy user(s) friendly
3)Streamer friendly(Movies/Sports)
4)Range - Enough for an average house (2 floors)

Let me know your recommendation - Even if it's over budget!