AT&T DSL → Re: [General] I am done with AT&T

I hope that AT&T sells off their Bell South legacy area to Century Link or Frontier, either one of those make more sense if anyone wants to get better wireline connections.

At least those two companies have a reason to focus on wired connections since they don't sell wireless at all.

There still are plenty of customers that won't buy into fixed wireless and will throw AT&T to the curb if they do away with ADSL and fail to upgrade areas to at least FTTN.

Never happening, AT&T has too much invested in OSP fiber to give up the SMB market.

What I see them doing in the next few years is cutting the cord on SFR residential hard-wired POTS and internet and migrating those subscribers to wireless.

nonsense....AT&T has sold off other areas, as has Verizon.

If AT&T can bring in money on that sale vs turning the lights off and NEVER seeing any or much revenue from folks like myself (and there are plenty of us) they are going to cut their nose off despite themselves. LOL

LOL yer arse, that called thinking short term which is not how to make a profit long term.

I guess you haven't been the CEO of too many large ILEC's have you?

From what I understand, any utility companies need to secure rights to lay down physical cable in an area. I happen to be a legacy Bell South area where the copper is around 30-something years old. It sounds like the neighborhood is due for service, but if they are going to pull the plug on POTS and DSL entirely, I'm assuming they might just leave those old copper lines underground and inactive in a few years' time.

Would or could AT&T sell those lines to another ISP, perhaps one willing to install a neighborhood fiber junction box for VDSL over the existing POTS lines that run to each home? Or would this be too complicated and compromise their ability to continue deploying fiber in the selective apartment complexes they are targeting, some of which are as little as a mile away?

I have a feeling that they themselves would see any attempt to convert us to VDSL as a monetary loss. Even though we're just 1 mile from a new community that's gotten Gigapower, I understand FFTH is out of the question for us granted our homes are about 400+ feet apart.

Since we live in the woods where 5G may not work very well, their long term solution for us may be LTE.

Since we live in the woods where 5G may not work very well, their long term solution for us may be LTE. I posted about the nearby tower in our community back in Oct 2016. With AT&T's latest decision to allow unlimited data on solutions like WHPI, I think this is going to end up being their way of considering our community "serviced".»[Signal] Would I Have This Cell Tower All to Myself for T-Mobile LTE?

Of course it is short term thinking, that is what AT&T and most other typical large corporations with wall street on the mind operate on...

Now long term thinking would be continuing to build out FTTP to all but the most rural areas....

And that is where you are very wrong about AT&T.

Spending almost 49 Billion dollars on DirecTV WASN'T SHORT SIGHTED?!?!?

They could have spent that money to build out FTTP and still had money left over...

I hope that AT&T sells off their Bell South legacy area to
Century Link or Frontier, either one of those make more sense if anyone wants to get better wireline connections. At least those two companies have a reason to focus on wired connections since they don't sell wireless at all.

There still are plenty of customers that won't buy into fixed wireless and will throw AT&T to the curb if they do away with ADSL and fail to upgrade areas to at least FTTN.

That depends on frequency.

I believe I know the DSLR name of who supplied you with a lot of info about that fiber fed site.

You are looking for what you would think is best for customers as a solution and not looking at the reality of business.

I hope that AT&T sells off their Bell South legacy area to
Century Link or Frontier, either one of those make more sense if anyone wants to get better wireline connections. At least those two companies have a reason to focus on wired connections since they don't sell wireless at all.

There still are plenty of customers that won't buy into fixed wireless and will throw AT&T to the curb if they do away with ADSL and fail to upgrade areas to at least FTTN.

That leaves what? Smaller companies that can't afford to buy out much of anything.

That leaves what? Smaller companies that can't afford to buy out much of anything.

D Telekom?
Parent of T-Mobile.

Why would they even think of getting into wireline?

For an outsider, it's a looser, period.

FYI...... Deutsche Telekom IS a wire(fiber)line provider in Germany. They are essentially the AT&T/ Verizon ILEC of Germany. T- Mobile is the wireless division of the company.

I fully understand that, however they have not an inch of copper or fiber in their OSP installed over in here in the (U.S.) so as such they are not a "wireline carrier," over here.

As you know? The wall street atmosphere of the way markets work over there aren't as short term driven, so what seems unworkable for AT&T or Verizon very well could be for a company like D Telekom wired services.

Yea sure, T-Mobile is going to dump a ton of money into something that is a total loss... you underestimate their management.

And why would it be a "total loss" if DT invests in building out FTTP in potentially profitable areas?

He's living a pipe dream that someone is going to rebuild the hardline network into a fiber utopia.