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cowboyro
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[Landscaping] What is this and how do I get rid of it?

This year some green stuff appeared on a rock wall.
What is this? How do I get rid of it, preferably without killing the grass below?

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I've also found some sort of fungus(?) or mold(?) on the mulch - and I'd like to get rid of it without killing the flowers. Thoughts?


Corehhi
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Lichen.

Power washer and bleach would do it most likely but it will come back. North facing wall by chance?

cowboyro
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More West, but shaded.

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Bleach for the rocks and complete removal of the mulch to remove the fungus. The spores are in the mulch and will come back.
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Well, I think it's pretty.

Before I worked too hard I would try a moss spray. They are mainly potassium soaps and may eliminate both problems

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said by harald:

Well, I think it's pretty.

Yes, people like the lichen look; including me.

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said by shdesigns:

said by harald:

Well, I think it's pretty.

Yes, people like the lichen look; including me.

This is almost like a trick question-certainly cowboyro has seen lichen before.

I wouldn't do anything to kill it!
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I know bleach would kill the grass for sure!. and some other suggestions here would most likely also.. on a roof, it has to be removed to prevent leaks..

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Personally I like that look.

But if you want to get rid of it, use Wet & Forget. It will get rid of the moss and algae but not kill everything else in sight like bleach does.

»www.amazon.com/dp/B01MA6 ··· 35646563

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said by jrs8084:

This is almost like a trick question-certainly cowboyro has seen lichen before.
I wouldn't do anything to kill it!

I've seen many, but none like this. Looking at wiki it appears there are thousands of types.
Wife wants it gone so it needs to go one way or another.
Apparently the mushroom-y looking stuff on the mulch is lichen too...

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I know bleach would kill the grass for sure!. and some other suggestions here would most likely also.. on a roof, it has to be removed to prevent leaks..

I power house my house once a year with bleach and water, it doesn't kill the grass.

Personally I would leave the moss on the rocks, looks old. I like the look on outside stuff but not my sliding or window trim.
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said by Corehhi:

said by radios4:

I know bleach would kill the grass for sure!. and some other suggestions here would most likely also.. on a roof, it has to be removed to prevent leaks..

I power house my house once a year with bleach and water, it doesn't kill the grass.

Personally I would leave the moss on the rocks, looks old. I like the look on outside stuff but not my sliding or window trim.

chlorine destroys all DNA, even tests for blood are foiled by that, so, you must be using a very weak solution of chlorine if it don't kill your grass, I know for a fact, that chlorine undiluted, will kill a tree stump in a week at the most, like it was dead for decades.. BTDT...

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Absolutely! God knows that anyone drinking chlorinated water eventually dies, that all lawns watered with chlorinated water dies in a few days and that swimming in chlorinated water is suicide.

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Just fyi, chlorine forms hypochlorous acid and hypochlorite ion. This kills proteins inside the cell.

You can test for dead ecoli in the water by looking for its DNA...

If chlorine destroyed all dna, how can they know that 52% of tested public pools in 2012 had ecoli DNA (pretty much saying shit was in the water... literal shit from your rear end)? Right it dont.

UV light destroys DNA, Chlorine oxidizes stuff.

It takes ALOT of sodium hypochlorite to kill grass...

I like the tree stump comment in the other thread it was gona remove it now here it kills it.

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chlorine destroys all DNA, even tests for blood are foiled by that, so, you must be using a very weak solution of chlorine if it don't kill your grass, I know for a fact, that chlorine undiluted, will kill a tree stump in a week at the most, like it was dead for decades.. BTDT...

Of course it's diluted when you run it through the power washer. I use the higher concentration outdoor bleach and use a 30 degree nozzle, never killed anything except mold on the house.

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said by 19354191:

I think you should go with the organic pest spraying. This will destroy the insect and can prevent your grass from getting damaged.

»youtu.be/aCbfMkh940Q

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said by radios4:

said by Corehhi:

said by radios4:

I know bleach would kill the grass for sure!. and some other suggestions here would most likely also.. on a roof, it has to be removed to prevent leaks..

I power house my house once a year with bleach and water, it doesn't kill the grass.

Personally I would leave the moss on the rocks, looks old. I like the look on outside stuff but not my sliding or window trim.

chlorine destroys all DNA, even tests for blood are foiled by that, so, you must be using a very weak solution of chlorine if it don't kill your grass, I know for a fact, that chlorine undiluted, will kill a tree stump in a week at the most, like it was dead for decades.. BTDT...

Even the purest water will kill your grass and trees if you use too much of it. It's all about concentrations, amounts, and run-off.

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Please tell me what universe you are from, lol too much water will kill something um what. Shit floods and everything lives... shit grows in wetlands, swamps etc. How is the water killing stuff?

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said by garys_2k:

Absolutely! God knows that anyone drinking chlorinated water eventually dies, that all lawns watered with chlorinated water dies in a few days and that swimming in chlorinated water is suicide.

take 1/4 cup of bleach, pour it on your grass, and see what happens.. don't try it, but I'll bet the same amount will kill you too.. the point is, Chlorine kills all DNA it contacts.. being heavily diluted lessens the effects though.. some proof here.. »www.extension.iastate.ed ··· toxicity

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Oh wait, you said chlorine, and only now you bring up the solution strength. So is it "chlorine" or just above some minimum concentration that is an issue? Also, what concentration "kills" DNA? Is killing DNA the same as destroying it?

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said by Anon984ed :

Please tell me what universe you are from, lol too much water will kill something um what. Shit floods and everything lives... shit grows in wetlands, swamps etc. How is the water killing stuff?

I live in an area that can get huge amounts of rain. One year it rained every day for a month or so then a couple of hurricanes and grass was literally rotting in my yard. The last hurricane Mathew, dump something like 20 inches of water in my yard, if the rain kept up for a week I would start having problems with my grass. The problem is if the grass stays wet for a many days in a row.

I also have some wetlands and they like the water but the plants that grow there don't do well in your front yard. Too much water will also kill fruit trees and any other tree that doesn't like wet feet. Other trees like bald cypress can live right in the water but they have knees that go up above the water so they don't drown. I can show you with no problem at all where wetlands are and what is dry land just from what trees and plants are there. Those two groups of plants can't live in each others environment.
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said by radios4:

said by garys_2k:

Absolutely! God knows that anyone drinking chlorinated water eventually dies, that all lawns watered with chlorinated water dies in a few days and that swimming in chlorinated water is suicide.

take 1/4 cup of bleach, pour it on your grass, and see what happens.. don't try it, but I'll bet the same amount will kill you too.. the point is, Chlorine kills all DNA it contacts.. being heavily diluted lessens the effects though.. some proof here.. »www.extension.iastate.ed ··· toxicity

Back too I use it every year at least once with nothing dying and just about everyone where I live power washes their house with bleach. Companies will also do your roofs to get the mold etc. off and they use enough bleach that you can smell it from the street.

Believe me or don't believe me, bleach is used all the time and I don't care what you read in a book, in real life it just doesn't work like that. It's not a killing machine.

You're right that bleach is good at getting rid of evidence. After you dump bodies out of your boat into the ocean for disposal I would certainly wash the boat down thoroughly with bleach.

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said by radios4:

said by garys_2k:

Absolutely! God knows that anyone drinking chlorinated water eventually dies, that all lawns watered with chlorinated water dies in a few days and that swimming in chlorinated water is suicide.

take 1/4 cup of bleach, pour it on your grass, and see what happens.. don't try it, but I'll bet the same amount will kill you too.. the point is, Chlorine kills all DNA it contacts.. being heavily diluted lessens the effects though.. some proof here.. »www.extension.iastate.ed ··· toxicity

Says 100% nothing about DNA, yet AGAIN, chlorine is an OXIDIZER, no one ever said that sodium hypochlorite does not kill things, your REASON is wrong. you proved nothing except sodium hypochlorite kills grass.... wow who would have known... again says nothing about HOW... and DNA aint how.

"So just how does chlorine work its sanitizing magic? When chlorine — sold as a granular powder, liquid or sometimes in its elemental form as a gas — is added to water, it forms a weak acid called hypochlorous acid. This acid is very proficient at killing bacteria such as salmonella and E. coli, and it also knocks out many viruses.

"Hypochlorous acid from chlorine-based pool sanitizers is really the key to germ destruction in the water," Ostrowski said.

A key property making hypochlorous acid lethal to microbes is the acid's neutral electrical charge. The cell walls around bacteria have a net negative charge, thus repelling other negatively charged particles in the water. Hypochlorous acid, however, being neither positively nor negatively charged, can make contact with and invade bacterial cells.

"The hypochlorous acid is able to breach the cell walls of pathogens," Ostrowski said.

Once inside the bacterium, the hypochlorous acid wreaks havoc by chemically interacting with proteins, causing them to lose their complex, origamilike structures. The proteins' functionality deteriorates, and the cell starts to die.

"Proteins are really the workhorse molecules of cells," Ostrowski told LiveScience. "They're involved in all of the bodily functioning of humans and also bacteria. And once you destroy the proteins, you've really taken away the ability of the bacteria to thrive."

"Chlorine basically tears apart a germ, shredding its cell membrane and proteins," added Michele Hlavsa, chief of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) Healthy Swimming Program."

from a website livescience posting link will get post held so... copy paste

AGAIN 0 about DNA. Shoo.