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Altice Abandons Fiber to the Home Network Upgrade in France

»stopthecap.com/2017/12/1 ··· ts-loom/
kcram
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The US government certainly isn't going to create a national FTTP network, so this is not a comparable situation. If a company wants fiber, they have to do it themselves or lease from a competitor, not the government.

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said by kcram:

The US government certainly isn't going to create a national FTTP network, so this is not a comparable situation. If a company wants fiber, they have to do it themselves or lease from a competitor, not the government.

Investors call the shots. Altice FTTP was doomed with their IPO.

It's a real shame. I bet you they abandon it here in the US real soon. Wiring the boonies has never and will never be profitable. Verizon couldn't even wire all of Bergen County.
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The problem with using this article is it says they are using the governments fiber instead. So they are still doing the fiber network but leasing space on the government fiber instead.

You cant use this article as an example of altice abandoning fttp here in the US unless you only read the title.

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said by majortom1029:

You cant use this article as an example of altice abandoning fttp here in the US unless you only read the title.

And the first customers were supposed to be lit up by the end of the year. I'll believe it when it's in my house and working.

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said by majortom1029:

The problem with using this article is it says they are using the governments fiber instead. So they are still doing the fiber network but leasing space on the government fiber instead.

You cant use this article as an example of altice abandoning fttp here in the US unless you only read the title.

if the parent company is affected, so will the subsidiary businesses.
Altice is "playing pool" with their finances, investors are "bowling" with their investments.
i expect Comcast or Spectrum to absorb Altice if they exit the US.

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Altic Fiber ambition isn't planning out as they have hoped. This marks a deep concern for the U.S.A and one must lack the ability to connect the dots to think otherwise. They have broken their promises nonstop (first line customers will not have fiber by the end of the year) and I suspect their debt is worse than advertised. It isn't looking good for Altice.

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this explains why the spools of fiber cable as pictured in the other thread shows france markings. they no longer are using it there. i'm sure the techs dealing with the fiber will love the metric system markings.

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As they should...
quote:
Fiber Optics, as an international technology, utilizes the metric system as the standard form of measurement
»www.thefoa.org/tech/ref/ ··· gon.html

motorola870
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hmm well at least Suddenlink is still pushing 1Gbps 32 downstream bonding into small town america that was upgraded to at least 625MHz or 750MHz or even 860MHz. the county seat in Hopkins County TX where my cousins live just got 1Gbps internet and they are on the bottom tier 860MHz areas as the area was one of the last to go 100% digital as a hub in the system was 750MHz and did expanded basic digital only several years back the headend directly fed hubs operated as 860MHz system using up to 861MHz

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said by Anonf613e :

Altic Fiber ambition isn't planning out as they have hoped. This marks a deep concern for the U.S.A and one must lack the ability to connect the dots to think otherwise. They have broken their promises nonstop (first line customers will not have fiber by the end of the year) and I suspect their debt is worse than advertised. It isn't looking good for Altice.

Wrong, plans still going forward for U.S.

»www.fiercecable.com/cabl ··· any-says
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I don't know they started to run a few fiber lines in Ocean Grove and there still just hanging at the entrance to the town and they haven't been back for quite a long time now.
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said by Anon7391d :

said by majortom1029:

You cant use this article as an example of altice abandoning fttp here in the US unless you only read the title.

And the first customers were supposed to be lit up by the end of the year. I'll believe it when it's in my house and working.

Well, that wasn't the real fair test.. the real fair test was about 18 months out, Altice was talking a big game about being able to service residential customers and not inner circle employee beta test customers. That goal is likely to NOT be accomplished in 2017. MAYBE in 2018, they could service the first one or two markets (which would be the equivalent of a single town/township within a greater county). Other than that it WILL be slow going.. Altice has not hired and/or trained enough workers to do a Verizon 2003 level deployment regardless of how much deep fiber(outside plant) has already been put up on poles with docsis 2/3 outside plant upgrades. Also, it will likely cost much more than the 1.9 billion obtained in the USA IPO.