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Re: A sign of things to come....

Wed, 03 Jan 2018 11:43:16 EDT

tc1uscg posted : In my list of reasons for booting NF back in the fall, that was the nr 3 and 4th reason to set them adrift. :-)

Re: A sign of things to come....

Wed, 03 Jan 2018 11:29:49 EDT

shmerl posted : Sure. Netflix is nowhere a hero of the people. They push DRM and ban VPNs as you said.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Wed, 03 Jan 2018 11:15:44 EDT

Selenia posted : It is but I am actually more concerned with companies blocking VPNs at the behest of the studios. Netflix, Hulu, etc are all guilty.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Wed, 03 Jan 2018 01:53:17 EDT

anon posted : No body wants google blocking them. Who the hell believes that non sense.

We want open development policies for consumers.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 23:11:17 EDT

shmerl posted : That's not an excuse to be a jerk for any ISP.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 22:55:53 EDT

battleop posted : This is why NN was broken to begin with. Same goes with privacy issues. Why should ISPs be the only ones to follow the rules? EVERYONE should follow them.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 22:55:35 EDT

battleop posted : This shows how little people know about NN.... What's funnier is that people get real bent out of shape if this was AT&T blocking Netflix but they have no problem with Google blocking Amazon..

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 19:54:43 EDT

anon posted :

said by cralt:

Google can pick and choose who uses their servers how ever they want.Its their resource. They could decide tomorrow that only people running CromeOS or android phones are allowed to use YT. They pay the bills they make the rules. Youtube is not an ISP. This wouldn't be a NN issue no matter how you slice it.

GoogleFiber (the ISP) blocking Fires or access to a service? Sure thats a NN issue. But that is not what is going on here.

Google runs an ISP. Net neutrality is meant to be a poison pill. You don't get to create subsidiaries and then offload your discrimination while claiming the parent company is innocent.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 18:10:41 EDT

cralt posted :

said by shmerl:

It should be, since why NN should be limited to ISP and not the service itself?

Its no more a NN issue then getting banned from Facebook or DSLreports.com. They pay the bills. Its their server, their rules. They get to pick and choose who stays and goes.

Nothing is blocking Amazon from starting a competing "youtube" if they don't like it. Your ability to do just that is what the idea behind NN is.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 18:09:59 EDT

anon posted : And you thought carriage disputes between cable and content providers were bad....

Cable 2.0.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 17:57:03 EDT

shmerl posted :

said by cralt:

This wouldn't be a NN issue no matter how you slice it.

It should be, since why NN should be limited to ISP and not the service itself? It's an anti-competitive move.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 17:55:39 EDT

cralt posted :

said by shmerl:

It would be, if Youtube servers would discriminate incoming requests (based let's say on user agent).

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 17:01:48 EDT

atuarre posted : Because Apple has all these requirements and restrictions for you to carry said iPhones. I wouldn't want to deal with that nonsense either.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:59:14 EDT

shmerl posted : It would be, if Youtube servers would discriminate incoming requests (based let's say on user agent). But Google blocking their application is more of an anti-trust issue, than Net Neutrality one.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:46:23 EDT

maartena posted :

said by P Ness:

Now that you don't have worry about anything silly like NN.....or oversight.....

This has absolutely nothing to do with Net Neutrality.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:57 EDT

silbaco posted : Wheeler's 1-way Net Neutrality never applied to Google or Amazon. Only internet service providers. Even if it had, this isn't a net neutrality issue.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:10:11 EDT

Limeade posted : Yep, just like how Amazon purposely doesn't sell iPhones and certain branded products.

Re: A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:46 EDT

elray posted : Neither Google or Amazon's moves have anything to do with Network Neutrality, just really foolish business moves by arrogant tools at the top.

They will, rather quickly, move to rescind this stupidity; wait for the kum ba yah interop peace accords announcement in short order. Wonder if Karl will cover it?

A sign of things to come....

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:02:41 EDT

P Ness posted : Now that you don't have worry about anything silly like NN.....or oversight.....

I am shocked they have not made it an optional 5 dollar "over ride" to allow youtube yet.

yet..