Broadcom Kills Qualcomm Deal After Trump Blockade → Re: thank gof...

I agree. Why some people think that protecting US companies from takeovers by Asian companies is bad I just don't get. Some people hate Trump so much they hate anything he does, even if it is good for the US.

Trump only does what's good for Trump. If he happens to do something that's good for the US, it's a coincidence.

Protectionism is a losing strategy in the long term. That's why people think it's bad. The steel/aluminum tariffs might "save" a small number of jobs in that sector, but they will cost more jobs in other sectors, as the price of those goods goes up, and that's without even thinking about the inevitable retaliation from our trading partners.

It's easy to rail against NAFTA when Carrier moves a plant to Mexico, but you'd have a different point-of-view about NAFTA if you worked in the agriculture industry, and it's stupid to "save" 500 jobs at Carrier if it costs 5,000 jobs in the agriculture sector and raises the cost of air conditioners that consumers must pay.....

As for Qualcomm/Broadcom, that may be justifiable on National Security grounds, but I'd have to do more research to conclude that. I thought Huawei was justifiable on National Security grounds but that was a minority viewpoint around these parts.

He could bring global peace and some would want war instead.

It isn't "protectionism". Steel and Aluminum are strategic metals that should be made here. China are going to corner the market in the next few years. I work in an industry that uses steel and almost everything now is made in China and boated over here. It is ridiculous how much we import. If some of these countries want to start a trading war with the US, I guarantee you that they would be on the losing end of such a war because of the way it is slanted now. We are a shadow of what we use to be in this nation. We need to start "making" things again instead of this "service" economy BS we mainly have now.

We made the Internet. That trumps (pun intended) steel. We live in the Information Age, not the Industrial Age. Should we bring back elevator operators while we're Making America Great Again? Telephone operators? Should we do away with containerization to help the stevedores? Outlaw digital cameras to bring Kodak back?

Nobody "wins" a trade war. Everyone will suffer. And guess what? We'll suffer more than most. This is a consumer driven economy. Why should I have to pay more for my car? My iPhone? My clothes? Just so you can cling to the industries of yesterday?

I didn't say bring back old tech. You are just being ridiculous. We may be in the information age but that doesn't mean stuff just gets magically made. Someone has to make your tech devices.

Let me know when Americans can do that as cheaply as the Taiwanese.

That is because China and et al pay slave wages. The trade isn't fair and there is no way we can compete with de facto slave labor.

By the way, who makes and maintains those roads you drive on everyday? Guess what those construction machines are made out of? What about those military vehicles?

To put tarrifs on steel from China is one thing. To put tarrifs on steel from Netherlands or Germany is retarded. That steel is not cheap and of a quality not even available in the US.
Agent Orange is destroying this country.

Like they don't have steep tariffs on our goods in those countries? Do you see a lot of American vehicles over there? Nope. What about China? Nope. Guess what they do, impose steep tariffs on our goods. So they are allowed to screw us in the back side but we can't do the same to bring them to bear? Come on.

You can’t build tanks and fighter jets with binary alone. You need metals.

Hence resources are a national security matter.

Absolutely !! We finally have a president that wants to see the US get FAIR trade. This nonsense of them tariffing our goods to death, but us not responding has to end. The only people in the US benefiting from one sided FREE trade are the Wall St billionaires, and not the working class citizens.

When did that happen? Did Trump quit already?

You see a lot of Ford cars there. US passenger cars are not suitable for that market. And pick up trucks which would be interesting? EU puts 22% duty on them, u.s. 25 % (!) Which completely killed mutual trade.
But then you sit down for trade.talks and do not behave like a retarded fascist dictator as Agent Orange is.

This country doesn't even have the capacity to meet the production needs of it's steel and aluminum use yet we throw tariffs on those while still allowing bankers to warehouse aluminum and manipulate the price of it on commodity markets.

Perhaps Germans don't want to drive American cars as much as Americans want to drive German cars or German cars built in America? Sort of similar to my newest american car I owned and drove being from 1970 unless you count a Toyota that was assembled in Long Beach before NAFTA moved that to Mexico.

American cars bought into the planned obsolescence too heavily yet retained the high prices on repair. It's like choosing between buying 5 flashlights for $20 or 1 with a brand name for $20, or a "better" single one for $50, all made in China though. I chose the 5 for $20 and they seem to be still working 5 years in, and my 2 that were older and better but almost $10 each work fine except for the one that is stored in 80 feet of water.

I buy what's best for the dollars I have, I don't care who makes it or where and anything or anyone that makes my dollar worth less hurts me.

I'm not going to claim that Chinese working conditions meet First World Standards, but you would do well to keep in mind that their cost of living is considerably lower than ours, and what would be a "slave wage" in the United States is anything but in a developing country.People who make substantially less money than I do, because I have a marketable skill, and they have a trade that anyone can be trained to do. I can do their job. Can they do mine?We have ample domestic resources to meet military demand. Our biggest steel supplier is Canada. That should tell you how bogus the "National Security" claim is, unless we're planning a war with Canada that I didn't hear about?

Yes. I've seen more Fords on the road in the EU than Volvos, BMWs, or Volkswagen. The combined market share of the last three is greater than Ford, but Ford holds its own in Europe, producing fuel efficient cars that I wish I could buy here in the United States. If they sold here what they sold there I'd probably have a Ford, rather than a Honda, but this is America, and our domestic companies seem to think everyone wants a pick-up or SUV with automatic transmission.

Hint: We don't.

We have ample domestic supply for strategic resources. Canada (our biggest steel supplier) is integrated into our own national security apparatus, at all levels, from production to command. Did you know a Canadian is the Deputy Commander of NORAD? Did you know NATO responded to 9/11, sending AWACs to American soil and troops to die in Afghanistan?

Unless we're planning a war with Canada and/or the EU, it's absurd to tariff their steel industries.

No tariffs for Mexico or Canada:

The exemptions for Canada and Mexico would start immediately with an unspecified duration.

»www.reuters.com/article/ ··· CN1GK2W6

How lovely, we're "only" screwing our European Allies.

Thanks for sending your young men and women to die in Afghanistan, suckers! #maga

Bringing global peace might actually more than even out the tons of terrible stuff he and his people have done.

Blocking a merger (which was actually analysed by a separate committee; Trump wouldn't give up his golf or "executive time" for that) is not quite on the same scale.

Why are right wing memes always so bad?

This is a common problem with some of the arguments for Trump's protectionism.

"But the EU places taxes on American cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - yeah, except that Ford has a separate subsidiary that designs and manufactures in Europe - except for people importing massive pickup trucks, not many Fords are crossing the Atlantic. It's possible that parts might cross borders though.

IIRC Ford does sell some of their European models over there now. They've realised there is a market for cars that don't have 5 litre V8 engines.

Honda does the same thing here in the States. People give me shit for my "Jap car," which was built in..... wait for it......

TENNESSEE.

God, I hate stupid people.....

Actually Taiwan has good labor laws vs Main land China. »www.intouch-quality.com/ ··· rs-guide

Comment from KAREN VAUGHN Mother of Aaron Vaughn, Navy Seal

“Sometimes God uses the no-nonsense, salty sailor to get the job done. Appreciating what the man is doing doesn't mean we worship the salty sailor or even desire to be like the salty sailor. It doesn't even mean God admires the salty sailor. Maybe He just knows he's necessary for such a time as this.

I believe with all my heart that God placed that salty sailor in the White House and gave this nation one more chance in November 2016. Donald Trump is what he is. He is still the man he was before the election. And without guilt, I very much admire what that salty sailor is accomplishing.

He's not like me. That's okay with me. I don't want to be like him. I will never behave like him. I know we've NEVER had a man like him lead our nation. It's crazy and a little mind blowing at times. But I can't help admire the ability he has to act with his heart rather than a calculated, PC, think tank-screened, carefully edited script. I still believe that is WHY he became our President and WHY he's been able to handle a landslide of adversity and STILL pass unprecedented amounts of good legislation for our country AND do great works for MANY other nations, including Israel.

I'm THRILLED with what he's doing for my nation, for the cause of Christ (whether intentional or unintentional, doesn't matter to me), and for the concept of rebuilding America and putting her FIRST. I will not be ashamed of my position because others don't see him through the same lens.

Should it matter to me if a fireman drops an f-bomb while he's pulling me from a burning building? Would I really care about what came out of his mouth in those moments? Heck no! I'd CARE about what he was DOING. He wasn't sent there to save my soul and I'm not looking to him for spiritual guidance. All I'm thinking in those moments is, "Thank you, Jesus, for sending the fireman."

I'll post this article below again for those who still might not understand me.

This man is crass. Okay. He's not careful with what he says. Okay. You feel offended that he's not a typical statesman. Okay. But he is rebuilding the nation my son died for...the nation I feared was on a fast track to becoming a hopeless cause. Forgive me if I'm smiling.”

KAREN VAUGHN

Yup let’s compare a draft dogging fool to a sailor. Good analogy mrs Vaughn. What’s next we are going to compare him to Jesus? Well his blinded base thinks so but hey don’t cry when your “Christian “ turns your drinking water into tar. Look the man doesn’t know what he’s talking about when it comes to tariffs. This is not a one way street but a rotunda. We are all connected if he think Europe won’t hit back and hard he better quickly remember the stun he tried to play in Scotland and see how that work out for him.

"I would have run in even without a gun," said the man who used bone spurs as an excuse to avoid going to Vietnam.

For those who don't know what "bone spurs" are, well, virtually all adults have them. I have them and I run marathons. 42.195 kilometers. They do not hold me back at all. They were discovered on an X-ray for another matter and are a complete non-issue.

But yeah, totally legit reason not to serve your country, then years later to shit on the service of a man who did, and spent years in the Hanoi Hilton for his trouble. I don't much care for John McCain's politics, but the man is a honest to god war hero, someone who had the chance to go home and refused unless everyone got to go home, and as far as I'm concerned Donald Trump isn't worthy to wipe his ass.

How any veteran could vote for Trump after that is beyond me. Don't like Hillary? I get it. Fucking vote for Gary Johnson. Or write in someone. I don't care. But the draft dodging asshole that shit on John McCain? How? Why?

Why is left wing snowflaking always good?

If you or a relative was working in one of those "Industries of Yesterday" you would feel differently.