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mdavej
join:2004-06-09
united state

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Re: [CATV] Spectrum Cable Box

$160 for a Bolt isn't a lot of money, and you break even in a couple of years. Plus, if you re-sell when you're done, you get nearly all your money back.

I paid $199 for a Roamio OTA including lifetime, so no monthly fees. Payback on that was just 10 months. After that, I save about $250 per year per DVR.

Consider this scenario, 5 rooms:
- Spectrum - $6 x 5 + $20 + $13 = $63 in fees alone
- Tivo lifetime - $2 (card) + $0 x 5 = $2 in fees
- Tivo subscription - $2 (card) + $150/year = $14.50 in fees.

Difference is $61/month or $732/year for lifetime, $48.50/month or $582/year for subscription. That will pay for a lot of Tivo hardware the first couple of years. After that, it's all gravy, not including resale value.

Anonef524
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I save even more by not wasting money on DVRs.
reds91185
join:2016-10-31
Mesquite, TX

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I'm with you...I have a Bolt and a Mini myself. What I am saying is that for many many people, the upfront cost of the equipment is a non-starter, especially for people living paycheck to paycheck.
spdickey
join:2002-11-17
Pacific Palisades, CA
Technicolor E31T2V1
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said by reds91185:

, the upfront cost of the equipment is a non-starter, especially for people living paycheck to paycheck.

So you pay $$$ to rent a box from Spectrum, or put a TiVo on your credit card and pay that monthly. At the end you can keep the Tivo, if you rent the box, you have to give it back.
reds91185
join:2016-10-31
Mesquite, TX

reds91185

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said by spdickey:

said by reds91185:

, the upfront cost of the equipment is a non-starter, especially for people living paycheck to paycheck.

So you pay $$$ to rent a box from Spectrum, or put a TiVo on your credit card and pay that monthly. At the end you can keep the Tivo, if you rent the box, you have to give it back.

Again...preaching to the choir here. I have friends and family that I've tried to convince of this and they won't change no matter what.
brad152
join:2006-07-27
Chicago, IL
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I personally cannot justify $500+ in equipment when i can just rent it for $6/mo and have them fix it when anything goes wrong. I never keep a DVR for more than 2-3yrs (including a TiVo)

This $1k upfront does not even include my other two TV's

Hell no

So $1,049 for the main unit, $179 for the 2nd and 3rd TV, for a total of $1,407, divided by $18 (3 box rentals) 78.16 mos to break even or 6.51 years

We are at a point with linear-deliverd TV, that that investment does not make sense.

Now i totally had a Premier when it first came out, as Cox was still handing out SARA-based Cisco 8300's

Anon4b149
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I could never justify TiVos pricing. Besides the fact that I do not like the TiVo UI, I would never switch.

Storage space is not important to me. 1 TB is more then enough capacity for me. I think I'm one of the very few people who understands the concept that DVRs are not an archival library of every episode of the past 5 seasons of any given TV show. Whole home would be nice, but not really needed for me. I have two TVs in the house, one with the Cisco 6 tuner DVR and one with the 4 tuner WorldBox. I am not interested in neutered minis or clients. I want both TVs to have full fledged DVRs connected to them with either 4 or 6 tuners.

Last time I checked, it was upwards of $17 or 1800 for two full fledged 1TB TiVos with lifetime service. The DVR fee and rental fee are around $30 a month combined for two DVRs under SPP. At $360 a year it would take 4 - 5 years to break even. And if there is a hardware failure it's on me. No thanks. I'll keep paying the rental.