Topic 'Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most' in forum 'Microsoft' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31900744 en Sat, 26 Mar 2022 03:38:32 EDT Sat, 26 Mar 2022 03:38:32 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32052573 moko...

Be aware that there were reports that turning off Windows Update Service (setting it to "disabled") in Windows 10 was ignored so that updates were installed anyway. This was a number of months ago so I don't know if the newer Win10 updates will also ignore the disabled setting...


On my Win7(pro/64bit) system I have the Windows Update Service set to "disabled" along with Windows Update set to "never" and using gpedit, I set "Prevent Windows Anytime Upgrade from running" to "enabled"...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32052573 Mon, 23 Jul 2018 19:18:30 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32051511 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32051511 Mon, 23 Jul 2018 00:38:38 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32048231
I was an early adopter and the only issues were with Edge early on. Several places did not support it. My big one was Cisco gear. I had issues with Edge. Most of that works now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32048231 Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:07:31 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32047182
I guess one other thing that does bother me a tiny bit but is at least changing in coming versions is as someone who has a Windows Mixed Reality headset, the irony is I'm not terribly happy with them, currently, latching updates of the WMR software and key components to Windows feature updates. Especially as the WMR software is still very much in flux with new features and fixes it becomes annoying waiting for the next Windows feature update to get access to those. But at last check it sounds like in the next version or two they are going to start decoupling that.

I guess there's also other things I can list that if I'm thinking about them they'd bother me a little but for the most part they don't come up or concern me in day to day usage. For example the added bloatware apps. They don't use up a ton of space to be a concern and they don't interfere with my day to day usage of my systems. On top of that with the infrequency of the major feature updates of Windows I can simply uninstall them at that time and go til next update without issue.

I have to say I agree with a lot of what trparky has said already in this thread. I'm one of those users who follows the 'KISS' principal when it comes to Windows 10 operation. In that I don't make a lot of unneeded changes or use third party tools which muck with the OS. Tick off a few options in Windows here and there, rely totally on Windows Defender vs a 3rd party AV. Overall concerning actual showstopping bugs on solid hardware I haven't had any issues as of late. 10 runs solidly for me. I maybe had one or two major issues very early on in 10's life such as a complete loss of internet connectivity after one of the very early feature updates on my Desktop but that was a simple rollback to fix until a patch was released if memory serves. Only machine I've ever had significant Win10 issues on was my old Touchsmart from 2010 that really didn't even officially support Windows 8 let alone 10 and AMD's patchwork switchable graphics were the sole pain therein. At the very least eventually Microsoft did kick AMD in the rear and got a stable driver released in-box in 10 so the machine actually ran.

As for feature suggestions to like, I do have one to add that I use on a somewhat regular basis on my laptop: The easy to access power plan sliders in the system tray when running on battery. My primary machine these days is an Inspiron 7577 gaming laptop. On battery I can usually squeeze about 5 hours out of it if I keep things light. Being able to go back and forth between battery saver and other options at a moments notice if needed is nice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32047182 Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:51:23 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32046707
It was extremely refreshing to boot it up and check the Programs List to find only 8 things installed. I installed 5 more things.
Hopefully these will prove to be better than what we have been using. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32046707 Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:46:31 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32046561 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-32046561 Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:18:14 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31926757 said by aurgathor:

Lastly, to be fair and balanced I eventually also plan to post a "Win 10 feature you like most" -- but I need a suitable feature list for that.

Oooh I have one for that. "When it turns off it stays off".

I'm joking. There are some things I actually do like about it. But seriously, cannot remember what they are. Maybe if I see the list it'll jump out at me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31926757 Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:23:23 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31926119 said by onebadmofo:

So "everything" is ahead by far.

Methinks its not without some good reasons.
For one, IMHO, there are quite a few things wrong with Win 10.
The other is that I didn't put in choices like:
, 2 or 3 of the above
, 4 or 5 of the above
, 6 or 7 of the above ;)

The last one is my mistake, and I think I'll just re-run this poll a little differently.

Sadly this won't stop those same people from using a Windows product.

This poll has nothing what people use on their PC. This poll is about certain attributes of one specific windows version, and one can check "everything" in this poll while be happy as a clam with Win 7.

Furthermore, Windows (all versions) have a close 90% share on the desktop, and there are not whole lot viable replacements for the majority of users.

But for personal use, why put yourself through the hassle?

?!? :huh:

In any case, if anyone has any more suggestions to be added to the list disliked items/features, please IM or post here.

Lastly, to be fair and balanced I eventually also plan to post a "Win 10 feature you like most" -- but I need a suitable feature list for that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31926119 Thu, 19 Apr 2018 01:36:35 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31925069 said by onebadmofo:

Updates taking an hour or so...it happens.

I don't consider the first phase of updating as part of the update process. What I do consider to be the update process is the part that you sit and watch a percentage on a blue full screen counting up to 100%. On my 3570K-based system with an SSD this process takes no more than three minutes minus the ten second boot time from UEFI to Windows.

said by onebadmofo:

-Mac hardware... when I say I use a MacBook, I mean a mid 2012 MacBook Pro.

Don't count that six year old Mac out too quickly man, that thing is still damn good for it's age because of the quality hardware in it. Again, it comes down to the quality of the hardware. If you have shit for hardware be prepared for an equally shitty experience.

There's a reason why most Mac hardware far outlives the cheap systems you get in the Windows camp, it's because Mac hardware is usually built to last with good components. I can say the same thing when you build a Windows system out of good quality do-it-yourself hardware. I myself have built my own systems for years and each one of them have been built with high end hardware and I have no issues whatsoever.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31925069 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 13:23:47 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924921 said by trparky:

said by onebadmofo:

There are those times when an update for the OS is released and it screws something up on your computer. Like the display, or the wifi or BT card. Then you have to find out if there are updated drivers to those things.

I don't agree with that at all. Most of your pre-built systems like HP, Dell, etc. have auto-update functionality that will pull down new drivers and even firmware/UEFI if and when needed.

said by onebadmofo:

cisco any connect

That's been known to cause issues. I remember a Windows Update a couple of years back that broke it. Why? Because Cisco was doing something that they shouldn't have been doing. If they weren't using documented APIs to do stuff it wouldn't have happened but that's the risk you take when you use undocumented APIs.

said by onebadmofo:

ESET

Again, undocumented APIs. Proof of this has been that Microsoft has actually withheld certain updates until a specific Registry entry was added by the AV vendor to indicate that it's safe to install the patch. Why? Use of undocumented APIs.

said by onebadmofo:

This alone SLOWS things down to halt for people. ...for hours sometimes. How is this acceptable?

I've never had an update slow down my system for hours. Then again, if your system is running a hard drive as the boot drive then I would say... there's your problem. Hard drives are slow as shit even when booting Windows itself let alone updating it. When a 120/128 GB SSD can be had for under $40 there's no reason to be running a hard drive as your boot drive. Not only will your system boot a hell of a lot faster with an SSD (it's like strapping a rocket to its back) but updating Windows will be mere minutes as versus doing it on a hard drive which is akin to watching paint dry.

said by onebadmofo:

Which is why I use a MacBook for work.

Bad example. Most Mac hardware is very high end hardware when compared to your average run-of-the-mill piece of shit Windows system. Have you looked at some cheap systems before? I wouldn't be caught dead using a cheap Dell.

People talk about how Mac hardware is more expensive but that's what you're going to pay for good hardware. In the race to the bottom in the PC industry we have become accustomed to the fact that computers should be cheap. Yes, they should be inexpensive but not so cheap that they're built from the cheapest shit possible. Take this example for instance, I've seen systems from Dell that have only one DIMM in it. One DIMM for a dual-channel memory controller equipped system. WTF! What the hell were they thinking? You've pretty much castrated the processor with doing that! Or putting the slowest DDR4 memory possible when there's no difference in price for faster RAM.

So I have to wonder if the reason why people are having issues with Windows is because of the lack of quality hardware.

It very well could be the quality of hardware. I'm certain the more you pay the less issues you'd have. But some businesses can only afford what they can budget for. Fortunately we have been approved for $1500.00 for our next batch of laptops. So we should see even less issue on the horizon.

To quickly address some of your replies in order of top to bottom:

- The Dell Inspiron 13 7000 series (which is what our budget at the time would allow) does indeed have a broken display after MS's big 1709 update. You have to reboot it to get it working. But as soon as you close the lid and reopen it, you get nothing but gray, pink, green pixilation taking up the entire screen making it unusable. Updating the BIOS fixes the issue.

- As for Cisco and ESET, I had no idea about that.

- Updates taking an hour or so...it happens. Yes, some of those are indeed HDDs. But others are SSDs. And even though it is a faster on the SSD. It still take close to an hour to complete. (on i5) I should DL the update to a flash drive and install it from there. I can cut that part out at least.

-Mac hardware... when I say I use a MacBook, I mean a mid 2012 MacBook Pro. It's 6 years old and still running better than a Dell Latitude 3480 that is only a few months to a year old. Is that 6 year old hardware better than the year old hardware on the Dell or is it the OS? I dunno man. But I suspect if I were to put Win 7 Pro or Ubuntu on that 3480 it would perform much better. Which then leads one to believe that Win 10 Pro is the issue.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924921 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:22:23 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924779 said by onebadmofo:

There are those times when an update for the OS is released and it screws something up on your computer. Like the display, or the wifi or BT card. Then you have to find out if there are updated drivers to those things.

I don't agree with that at all. Most of your pre-built systems like HP, Dell, etc. have auto-update functionality that will pull down new drivers and even firmware/UEFI if and when needed.

said by onebadmofo:

cisco any connect

That's been known to cause issues. I remember a Windows Update a couple of years back that broke it. Why? Because Cisco was doing something that they shouldn't have been doing. If they weren't using documented APIs to do stuff it wouldn't have happened but that's the risk you take when you use undocumented APIs.

said by onebadmofo:

ESET

Again, undocumented APIs. Proof of this has been that Microsoft has actually withheld certain updates until a specific Registry entry was added by the AV vendor to indicate that it's safe to install the patch. Why? Use of undocumented APIs.

said by onebadmofo:

This alone SLOWS things down to halt for people. ...for hours sometimes. How is this acceptable?

I've never had an update slow down my system for hours. Then again, if your system is running a hard drive as the boot drive then I would say... there's your problem. Hard drives are slow as shit even when booting Windows itself let alone updating it. When a 120/128 GB SSD can be had for under $40 there's no reason to be running a hard drive as your boot drive. Not only will your system boot a hell of a lot faster with an SSD (it's like strapping a rocket to its back) but updating Windows will be mere minutes as versus doing it on a hard drive which is akin to watching paint dry.

said by onebadmofo:

Which is why I use a MacBook for work.

Bad example. Most Mac hardware is very high end hardware when compared to your average run-of-the-mill piece of shit Windows system. Have you looked at some cheap systems before? I wouldn't be caught dead using a cheap Dell.

People talk about how Mac hardware is more expensive but that's what you're going to pay for good hardware. In the race to the bottom in the PC industry we have become accustomed to the fact that computers should be cheap. Yes, they should be inexpensive but not so cheap that they're built from the cheapest shit possible. Take this example for instance, I've seen systems from Dell that have only one DIMM in it. One DIMM for a dual-channel memory controller equipped system. WTF! What the hell were they thinking? You've pretty much castrated the processor with doing that! Or putting the slowest DDR4 memory possible when there's no difference in price for faster RAM.

So I have to wonder if the reason why people are having issues with Windows is because of the lack of quality hardware.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924779 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:59:46 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924603 said by trparky:

You know, there's a difference between the people who choose just to hate on Windows 10 and people like me. If I have a problem with my computer I don't jump to the conclusion that it must be Microsoft because everyone else hates Microsoft; that would jumping on the Microsoft hate train like so many people around here just love to jump on. I actually investigate why something went wrong.

I have been around computers since the old Tandy 8088s so I've been around the corner. I'm not at all new to this stuff and I've troubleshooted more stuff in my years of dealing with weird shit more than most of you here on these forums. I would like to say that I know the in's and out's of Windows as much as any person at Microsoft. If there's something wrong with Windows, I've probably more than likely seen it and not only that but solved it!

I also don't run duct taped together systems with software hacks upon software hacks either, I run as close to stock Windows configurations as I can. I do not load a metric ton of tweaks, I don't use such programs like "Shutup 10" and the like. I like any rational person has turned telemetry to Basic Mode and that's it! Final! No tweaks! NOTHING!

To those people who have issues all the time I dare you to load Windows 10 and don't mess with it. Use it as it's meant to be used, I guaran-fuckin-te you that you won't have issues.

I agree with everything you say except that you won't have issues with Win 10 if you don't mess with it.

In a single user situation this can work. But in a business environment with many computers, many which have nothing un-needed installed, they can still have issues that they really shouldn't have.

There are those times when an update for the OS is released and it screws something up on your computer. Like the display, or the wifi or BT card. Then you have to find out if there are updated drivers to those things. Or maybe a BIOS updated to fix a display bug from the bullshit 1709 update. Your average user wouldn't know to check for something like a BIOS update. So they may just toss out (or give away) the computer and get a new one.
Or you don't know what is screwed up because the error that is displayed on the screen isn't something on Microsoft's site. But someone at MS had to type it. It's not just gonna word itself. So why does it not exist?

Shit like that is annoying and if it happens on even just 5 same model computers, causing 5 different people to take a hit in production which can get them in trouble with their supervisors, it gets frustrating for all involved. And then you realize, it doesn't happen on the rest of the same model computers. "Wha...??"

And for the computers this does happen on, they have nothing installed on it that it shouldn't. MS office, chrome, adobe reader, cisco any connect, ESET..that's it. Is it hardware? Or is the OS. Or is it both, to where the manufacturers of both items aren't truly in communication with each other on what they should both be doing.

Oh did I mention the... Consistent. Fuckin. Updates. On Win 10? This alone SLOWS things down to halt for people. ...for hours sometimes. How is this acceptable?

It all gets annoying REAL fast. Which is why I use a MacBook for work. I don't need to have that experience happening to me while I'm trying to fix other bad experiences.

But don't get me wrong, we have a large amount of users out there that are having ZERO issues on their Windows machine. As a matter of fact, those numbers totally outweigh the those having issues. And that's great!

But because those individuals aren't having issues, it doesn't mean that the issues do not exist, nor does it mean that the other staff are doing something wrong. Sometimes shit just doesn't work for Windows. And that's where the consistent inconsistencies piss you off. It's because of that, people will hate Windows. Cause maybe they're the unlucky bastards who gets stuck with that type of scenario. While others who have no issues just point their finger at that person, saying they don't know shit, they probably did this or that to it. Which only adds to the frustration.

Microsoft should have a disclaimer labeled
Windows = Inconsistent
YMMV

Who knows, maybe they do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924603 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:30:20 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924512 said by trparky:

I learned this years ago as part of my learning about computers is if you have a problem, go back to a stock configuration. If you have no problems after you have done so then the crap you added was the reason things got fucked up.

9 times out of 10 this strategy has worked wonders for everything I have done on my computers. It doesn't just apply to Windows, it works on just about everything including Firefox, Google Chrome, Android, Microsoft Office, iTunes, Avast, and every other piece of software I have ever used in my twenty years of using computers.

Don't assume you are smarter than the programmer, the programmer will laugh in your face.

This is 100% true.

If you leave the OS as stock the chances of you having issues are far less than those who do not leave it and are not careful about what they install.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924512 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:33:29 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924497 said by urbanriot:

said by onebadmofo:

Sadly this won't stop those same people from using a Windows product.

It is. I can't tell you how many times I'm visiting different sites and seeing executives doing everything in their power to push their corporation, department, or anyone to adopt cloud solutions so they can switch the company to Apple.

Apple has been on a slow and steady rise over the past decade. It's still less than 10% but it's slooowwwwly increasing.

I think that number may not increase in the average business environment. Apple seems to be moving away from business solutions and just existing to make expense social media devices.

With them removing all possibilities of a customer customizing the laptop to how they'd like it to be, why would any real business drop over a grand on something they cannot upgrade themselves at a later time? I wouldn't, not for a business that has an amount of staff from 100 or over. A hand full of employees, from 3 to 60? Yeah. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924497 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:20:45 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924220 said by onebadmofo:

Sadly this won't stop those same people from using a Windows product.

It is. I can't tell you how many times I'm visiting different sites and seeing executives doing everything in their power to push their corporation, department, or anyone to adopt cloud solutions so they can switch the company to Apple.

Apple has been on a slow and steady rise over the past decade. It's still less than 10% but it's slooowwwwly increasing. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31924220 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:32:31 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923911
9 times out of 10 this strategy has worked wonders for everything I have done on my computers. It doesn't just apply to Windows, it works on just about everything including Firefox, Google Chrome, Android, Microsoft Office, iTunes, Avast, and every other piece of software I have ever used in my twenty years of using computers.

Don't assume you are smarter than the programmer, the programmer will laugh in your face.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923911 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:38:32 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923909
I have been around computers since the old Tandy 8088s so I've been around the corner. I'm not at all new to this stuff and I've troubleshooted more stuff in my years of dealing with weird shit more than most of you here on these forums. I would like to say that I know the in's and out's of Windows as much as any person at Microsoft. If there's something wrong with Windows, I've probably more than likely seen it and not only that but solved it!

I also don't run duct taped together systems with software hacks upon software hacks either, I run as close to stock Windows configurations as I can. I do not load a metric ton of tweaks, I don't use such programs like "Shutup 10" and the like. I like any rational person has turned telemetry to Basic Mode and that's it! Final! No tweaks! NOTHING!

To those people who have issues all the time I dare you to load Windows 10 and don't mess with it. Use it as it's meant to be used, I guaran-fuckin-te you that you won't have issues.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923909 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:33:11 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923891 said by WK2:

said by onebadmofo:

Having an opinion isn't trolling. But if you want to go down that road...

I'm on the hate wagon. And you and the old lady who liked your post, are in the cult.

Also...have a look at the amount of people who hate everything about it, and those who love it because " they have no issues.

I wonder what it would take for someone who loves it, has no issues with it, to change their mind? What would it take for them to flip on it? What would they have to go through in order to make them feel what others have been feeling for years.

Nah...they'd just be in denial about the whole thing. Cause that's what cult members do.

The Microsoft Windows Cult. Wow.

Yep. You guys exist too. You've been exposed.

I'm just a hater. A hater of everything. Cults, Windows, Apple, Android. I'm very versatile like that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923891 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:22:24 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923888 said by onebadmofo:

Having an opinion isn't trolling. But if you want to go down that road...

I'm on the hate wagon. And you and the old lady who liked your post, are in the cult.

Also...have a look at the amount of people who hate everything about it, and those who love it because " they have no issues.

I wonder what it would take for someone who loves it, has no issues with it, to change their mind? What would it take for them to flip on it? What would they have to go through in order to make them feel what others have been feeling for years.

Nah...they'd just be in denial about the whole thing. Cause that's what cult members do.

The Microsoft Windows Cult. Wow. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923888 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:20:48 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923882 said by WK2:

said by onebadmofo:

said by darcilicious:

A bubble of your imagination. Are we having fun yet? ;^)

Eh. It's simple trolling that you're doing.

I thought that’s what you and the Windows 10 hate bandwagon do?

Having an opinion isn't trolling. But if you want to go down that road...

I'm on the hate wagon. And you and the old lady who liked your post, are in the cult.

Also...have a look at the amount of people who hate everything about it, and those who love it because " they have no issues.

I wonder what it would take for someone who loves it, has no issues with it, to change their mind? What would it take for them to flip on it? What would they have to go through in order to make them feel what others have been feeling for years.

Nah...they'd just be in denial about the whole thing. Cause that's what cult members do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923882 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:16:55 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923881 said by vaxvms:

said by onebadmofo:

But for personal use, why put yourself through the hassle?

Because for personal use Linux sux.

Ok. There's Mac. ...if you don't have to game on it. If you do, then use a PC only for gaming.

The point is there are choices out there. If those who have issues don't want to give those choices a shot, then those people shouldn't even begin to complain.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923881 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:16:54 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923736 said by onebadmofo:

But for personal use, why put yourself through the hassle?

Because for personal use Linux sux.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923736 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:41:37 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923715 said by onebadmofo:

said by darcilicious:

A bubble of your imagination. Are we having fun yet? ;^)

Eh. It's simple trolling that you're doing.

I thought that’s what you and the Windows 10 hate bandwagon do?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923715 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:30:47 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923284 said by darcilicious:

A bubble of your imagination. Are we having fun yet? ;^)

Eh. It's simple trolling that you're doing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923284 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:34:23 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923282 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923282 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:33:29 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923281 said by darcilicious:

said by onebadmofo:

You should pop that thing, the air in there must smell of wine farts, cheese and stale lettuce.

Just to your liking then! Come on in!

Aaaand you admit to being in a bubble. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923281 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:32:56 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923265 said by onebadmofo:

You should pop that thing, the air in there must smell of wine farts, cheese and stale lettuce.

Just to your liking then! Come on in!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923265 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:26:20 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923256 said by darcilicious:

What? You finally admit that my iPhone 6 was working fine? Wow!

I never said it wasn't. I said, just because you're not having issues, it doesn't mean others are not. It seems your bubble doesn't allow you to see the point of view from others. You should pop that thing, the air in there must smell of wine farts, cheese and stale lettuce.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923256 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:21:28 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923250 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923250 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:17:13 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923246 said by darcilicious:

said by onebadmofo:

I chalk that up to me being lucky.

Or maybe everyone else is just UNLUCKY?

Seriously, what does luck have to do with it in either case? The fact is, that many folks have issues regardless of the platform and most folks don't.

Or maybe The fact is, that most folks have issues regardless of the platform and many folks don't. Either way you look at it, it's called luck.

Remember, even though your iPhone 6 is running ok, it doesn't mean everybody's is. Nor does it mean they are doing something wrong or different for you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923246 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:15:56 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923240 said by onebadmofo:

I chalk that up to me being lucky.

Or maybe everyone else is just UNLUCKY?

Seriously, what does luck have to do with it in either case? The fact is, that many folks have issues regardless of the platform and most folks don't. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923240 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:11:46 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923228 said by WK2:

said by onebadmofo:

said by WK2:

Can't seem to find anything wrong with Windows 10 - all good for me!

Ah. One computer. Well there is always one that will work fine.
In the industry we call that luck.

Not one computer. Here is a brief list of my devices that run Windows 10 that I use daily:

At Home
1x Surface Book
2x Desktops
1x HTPC
1x Surface Pro

At Work
1x Laptop
3x Desktops

Many of those devices running Windows 10 since June of 2015. So are 9 daily devices running Windows 10 without issue the outlier? Or am I just that "lucky" to have and maintain these systems? Maybe if some of the people on this forum refocused all of the time it takes to complain, maybe they would be better off?

Good stuff.

Still you're lucky. I mean with so many people having complaints, you have to see that.

I haven't had any issues. None at all with my MacBook since 2012. But I've heard that some people have hardware issues and such with MacBooks that are much newer and that their mid 2012 MacBooks are paper weights now.

I chalk that up to me being lucky. And not that those having issues have done something wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923228 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:04:00 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923114 said by onebadmofo:

said by WK2:

Can't seem to find anything wrong with Windows 10 - all good for me!

Ah. One computer. Well there is always one that will work fine.
In the industry we call that luck.

Not one computer. Here is a brief list of my devices that run Windows 10 that I use daily:

At Home
1x Surface Book
2x Desktops
1x HTPC
1x Surface Pro

At Work
1x Laptop
3x Desktops

Many of those devices running Windows 10 since June of 2015. So are 9 daily devices running Windows 10 without issue the outlier? Or am I just that "lucky" to have and maintain these systems? Maybe if some of the people on this forum refocused all of the time it takes to complain, maybe they would be better off?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923114 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:43:32 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923100 said by WK2:

Can't seem to find anything wrong with Windows 10 - all good for me!

Ah. One computer. Well there is always one that will work fine.
In the industry we call that luck. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923100 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:35:17 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923083 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31923083 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:17:07 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31921766 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31921766 Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:11:29 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31921730
Sadly this won't stop those same people from using a Windows product.

I know, I know, some can't and need to because of work. I get it, I work in the same type of environment at my job.

But for personal use, why put yourself through the hassle?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31921730 Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:56:38 EDT Re: [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31903810 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31903810 Tue, 03 Apr 2018 13:25:40 EDT [Poll]Win 10 feature you dislike most http://www.dslreports.com/forum/PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31900744 [poll]
,sneaky updates from older OSs
,forced updates that cannot be disabled
,broken updates that can wreak havoc
,User Interface
,telemetry
,Cortana
,everything!
,there is nothing I dislike in Win 10
,the bloatware they stick in there
,random overnight reboots due to WU
,ignores and overrides user settings
,Edge
[/poll]
You can only pick one entry, so choose wisely!

If you don't see your most hated feature, IM me or post here, and I can add it to the end of the list.

No fool's joke!!

Edit 1: added 'bloatware'
Edit 2: added 'reboots'
Edit 3: added 'ignores and overrides user settings'; see: »Another reason to hate Windows 10... Microsoft ignores your settings
Edit 4: added Edge]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/PollWin-10-feature-you-dislike-most-31900744 Sun, 01 Apr 2018 03:52:18 EDT