ruggb
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Re: Resurrecting an OBI 100This requires that both 200 & 100 are on the same network, right?
Can you do it if they are on different networks?
My solution works with an OBI100 but I think it is having a problem crossing 3 routers on the remote network. (other thread) Sometimes it works, sometimes not. |
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 jsolo1
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jsolo1
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2018-Aug-7 4:09 pm
@ruggb, I suppose if both devices can communicate with one another then it doesn't matter if they're on the same subnet or not.
I have our obi boxes on a vlan separate from the main lan. The pbx is on the main lan. There are firewall rules that permit specific communication between the pbxobi boxes. |
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As long as both devices are on the internet, they can be anywhere.
I have the 110 in my office and the 200 at my home. Both are behind firewalls.
They work nicely. |
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ruggb
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The key word is OBI. That is what this thread is about, but the Linksys came up and the "fix" was for a linksys/OBI with an IP address. That won't work with a routeable IP. It has to be on the same local network - which an extension or a 2nd handset would be.
I am having a problem with my remote OBI because it is going thru 3 routers to get to the internet. |
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azrobert
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said by ruggb:This requires that both 200 & 100 are on the same network, right?
Can you do it if they are on different networks?
My solution works with an OBI100 but I think it is having a problem crossing 3 routers on the remote network. (other thread) Sometimes it works, sometimes not. I never tried this setup from a different network, but I did get a softphone on an Android to register to an OBi200 and successfully make calls. It wouldn't work until I checked X_SymmetricRTPEnable. You can try it with my setup. SymmetricRTP is found in ITSP Profile General. Point the OBi to you Public IP then you will also have to port forward the X_UserAgentPort and the RTP ports. |
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 kevinds
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said by ruggb:That won't work with a routeable IP. It has to be on the same local network - which an extension or a 2nd handset would be. Why not? That is just silly. A network device doesn't understand internet routable vs non-routable IP addresses.. For example the 10.0.0.0/8 network isn't internet routable but it can host an organization's network spanning countries, it certainly is routable. 192.168.0.0/16 the same thing applies. The only IPs that are not routable are 127.0.0.0/8, and you definitely can't have your VoIP devices communicating using that network. If you have the ports setup correctly, it should work. |
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ruggb
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ruggb
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2018-Aug-8 9:14 pm
I am sure you know what "routable" means.
So, I will let you show me a config that works over the inet. I'm willing to learn. |
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I have the config working on my local net and liouville and others have it working on the inet. My problem, I believe, is the fact that the OBI100 is going thru 3 routers at the remote location. Sometimes it will work and sometimes not. Since it works sometimes, the config must be correct. I need to eliminate a router or 2 to verify it.
Next trip. |
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kevinds
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kevinds
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2018-Aug-8 10:32 pm
said by ruggb:I have the config working on my local net and liouville and others have it working on the inet. My problem, I believe, is the fact that the OBI100 is going thru 3 routers at the remote location. Sometimes it will work and sometimes not. Since it works sometimes, the config must be correct. I need to eliminate a router or 2 to verify it.
Next trip. Yes, double and tripple NAT will cause VoIP issues.. Simple web browsing, people don't notice anything wrong.. Get into two-way web activities, it starts to show. |
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said by ruggb:I am sure you know what "routable" means.
So, I will let you show me a config that works over the inet. I'm willing to learn. Every IP is routable except 127.0.0.0/8.. You appear to be having NAT issues, which is different. |
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ruggb
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ruggb
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2018-Aug-8 11:04 pm
Someone else's definition......"People often say "routable" when they mean "publically routable" and "non-routable" when they mean "not publically routable""
Which is what I did.
Now if you can give me the config for a 2102 that will work over a Public network, I will test it out.... as soon as I re-unlock the gd thing.
thanks
Also, is there anything I can config on the routers to fix the NAT issue? |
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azrobert
join:2015-02-07
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to ruggb
Disclaimer: I'm not a networking expert and I don't know your setup.
I've had an OBi110 connected to 2nd router. You need to setup port forwarding. When you connect a 2nd router, the main router will assign an address (within the main router's subnet) for the 2nd router. Use this address to port forward the listening and RTP ports.
If your router supports Static Routing, use the same generated address for the Static Routing. Now you don't need port forwarding.
I never used a 3rd router, but I assume you do the same between the 2nd and 3rd router. |
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kevinds
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said by ruggb:Someone else's definition......"People often say "routable" when they mean "publically routable" and "non-routable" when they mean "not publically routable""
Which is what I did.
Now if you can give me the config for a 2102 that will work over a Public network, I will test it out.... as soon as I re-unlock the gd thing.
thanks
Also, is there anything I can config on the routers to fix the NAT issue? You need to get your router issue sorted out first, until you do, it won't matter. NAT is your issue, not the IP addresses. If you had an OBi202 and it had the public IP so it was acting as your router, same with the 2102, you wouldn't have this issue.. Can it be solved.. Maybe.. Depends why it is there in the first place. Why do you have so many routers connected? Guessing the first one is your ISP modem/gateway, if so can it be bridged? |
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ruggb
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ruggb
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2018-Aug-9 8:21 am
I have accepted that NAT is my issue. Are you going to tell me how to fix it?
If my public IP is the ISP gateway how would you suggest getting a public IP for the 200 - not that it matters because, it can't be used as a router for my other devices, and that end works for the other configured phone #s and probably is not the issue for OBITALK since it is functional on the local net (OBITALK still must go back and forth over the inet to function-right?)
My 100 (192.168.2.64) is connected to a router (192.168.2.1) that provides WiFi to other devices. That router (192.168.200.2) is connected to a Ubiquiti PB-M2 (192.168.200.1) that communicates (192.168.1.10) with a remote router (192.168.1.1) that connects to the ISP (public IP).
>OBI100 .2.64 > .2.1 router .200.2 > .200.1 PB-M2 .1.10 > .1.1 gateway .?.? > ISP
I can connect the 2102 to the PB-M2 and feed the WiFi router from it. That would eliminate 1 router. But I don't have the 2102 running. The OBI100 is connected, so.........
I will connect the OBI100 directly to the remote router next time I go to the 100 location to verify the issue is because of the multiple routers, but do you have a solution to make it work as it is connected? |
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That is where I was headed AZ. At home I have lots of ports forwarded (I need to clean that up) and forgot about it when I was at the 100 location maybe because it worked on GVGW or I became brain dead.
The ?? is which ports do I need to forward?
The other ? you just answered. See my diagram in previous post.
.1.1 forwards to .1.10 which forwards to .200.2 which forwards to .2.64 OBI100
thanks |
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jsolo1
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jsolo1
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2018-Aug-9 8:39 am
@ruggb Would using vlans reduce the multple layers of subnets to a single layer/nat for each subnet? |
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ruggb
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ruggb
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2018-Aug-9 8:53 am
I'm not sure how that would be implemented here. I may have had something like that when I did a repeater, but because one router was splitting its wifi, it didn't work as well as a bridge with one router connecting to the source and another feeding the house. |
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kevinds
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said by ruggb:My 100 (192.168.2.64) is connected to a router (192.168.2.1) that provides WiFi to other devices. That router (192.168.200.2) is connected to a Ubiquiti PB-M2 (192.168.200.1) that communicates (192.168.1.10) with a remote router (192.168.1.1) that connects to the ISP (public IP).
>OBI100 .2.64 > .2.1 router .200.2 > .200.1 PB-M2 .1.10 > .1.1 gateway .?.? > ISP Why is it setup that way? Bridge them all except the ISP router.. Then setup port forwarding on the ISP router? |
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ruggb
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ruggb
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2018-Aug-9 2:17 pm
the .2.64 link is wired = OBI to router, which also provides WiFi
the .200.2 link is wired = router to PB.M2
the .1.10 link is wireless = PB.M2 to primary router (== primary router >> ISP gateway)
the only bridge is the .1.10 link
So I will port forward (pf) LocalPortMin,LocalPortMax UDP on primary router to .1.10
Then pf on PB.M2 to router .200.2
Then pf on router to OBI .2.64
Then X_UserAgentPort UDP the same way.
Since the wired link from the PB.M2 only goes to the router, is pf needed on it?
Do I need anything else? |
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OK Kevin, I have all my SPA2102's unlocked and upgraded to non-sunrocket firmware. Good thing I still had an old Laptop to run the unlock utility. They are ready to configure as a remote operating thru the OBI200 for GV. Are you going to tell me how to do that? |
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kevinds
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kevinds
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2018-Aug-11 8:50 pm
Do you have your network bridged now so the only router is the ISP one? |
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ruggb
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ruggb
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2018-Aug-11 11:32 pm
It is at my other house, 200 miles away, and I don't know when I will be there next, but my physical config
....................wireless....................wired................wired
isp >> router ~~~~~ rcvr/router >>>>> router >>>>>>>>> OBI100
...............1.10........1.10.........200.1....200.2....2.1.............2.64
The only change I can make is to put a switch in the 200 line and connect the OBI parallel to the router. That eliminates 1 router, but I should be able to configure it, right? |
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kevinds
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kevinds
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2018-Aug-15 2:07 am
said by ruggb:The only change I can make is to put a switch in the 200 line and connect the OBI parallel to the router. That eliminates 1 router, but I should be able to configure it, right? Connect it to the ISP router, forward the signaling port you choose and all the media ports. How often does your IP change? You may need to setup dynamic DNS |
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ruggb
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ruggb
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2018-Aug-15 11:44 pm
kevin -- what don't you understand about my ~~~~~ bridge and "The only change I can make...."? I guess if I could run a 300 yard cable across it instead of wifi, I might could connect to the ISP router. |
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kevinds
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kevinds
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2018-Aug-15 11:50 pm
Correct. That is why I asked a couple times why it was setup like that..
Should still be able to bridge the wireless link though? |
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