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therube
join:2004-11-11
Randallstown, MD

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Re: Networking & Sharing - how to do it?

1809 is currently in there.
(If I recall a thread here, there is yet another update to 1809. That would not be in... yet?)
therube

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Automatic Removal & Client were checked.
Server was not.

Oh, should Server have been checked?
(I don't think I actually check with it that way. I'll have to.)
Enabled Server...

Son of a gun!
So two out of three are not enough.

Likewise,
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SMB 1 is installed & enabled, AFAICT, & has been AFAIK.
AFAICT & AFAIK means that I did not know (but that I knew all along) & that what I "expected" to see & what were needed are different.

Now I've got to check the other 10's & see what they show...

So sabersaw had it from the start .

(Didn't get to check before now. Something a bit more important then "computers" had come up.)

I've now got to add an actual password to the account & make sure I can actually get in. (At least at this point, I'm prompted for a UN/PW.)

In!
Thank you all for putting up with me.
therube

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10 Pro, 1709, "Windows Features" comes up totally blank, so no idea what SMB1 settings are set here?
7 Ult, SP1+, hard for me to make sense, but it seems nothing is specifically listed, so it would seem that to mean it is enabled (by default)?

powershell: Get-Item HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Parameters | ForEach-Object {Get-ItemProperty $_.pspath}
ServiceDll                    : E:\Windows\system32\srvsvc.dll
ServiceDllUnloadOnStop        : 1
EnableAuthenticateUserSharing : 1
NullSessionPipes              : {}
autodisconnect                : 15
enableforcedlogoff            : 1
enablesecuritysignature       : 0
requiresecuritysignature      : 0
restrictnullsessaccess        : 1
Lmannounce                    : 0
Size                          : 1
AdjustedNullSessionPipes      : 3
Guid                          : {22, 86, 70, 54...}
PSPath                        : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_
                                MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Lanma
                                nServer\Parameters
PSParentPath                  : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry::HKEY_LOCAL_
                                MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Lanma
                                nServer
PSChildName                   : Parameters
PSProvider                    : Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Registry
 
sc qc lanmanworkstation :
[SC] QueryServiceConfig SUCCESS
 
SERVICE_NAME: lanmanworkstation
        TYPE               : 20  WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS 
        START_TYPE         : 2   AUTO_START
        ERROR_CONTROL      : 1   NORMAL
        BINARY_PATH_NAME   : E:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe -k NetworkService
        LOAD_ORDER_GROUP   : NetworkProvider
        TAG                : 0
        DISPLAY_NAME       : Workstation
        DEPENDENCIES       : Bowser
                           : MRxSmb10
                           : MRxSmb20
                           : NSI
        SERVICE_START_NAME : NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService
 
Win10 #2, 1803, turned out to be Home not Pro, & on that one, all three SMB1 checkboxes were checked.
(Yet that computer is not, now, seeing \\HP. Before, last week, it was. Not really important, & I'll deal with that later.
Turns out the box, \\HP, with whatever the defaults are, had gone to sleep. So Win10 #2 now sees it too. Sigh.)

OldNavyGuy
join:2018-07-24
Newberg, OR

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said by therube:

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SMB 1 is installed & enabled, AFAICT, & has been AFAIK.
AFAICT & AFAIK means that I did not know (but that I knew all along) & that what I "expected" to see & what were needed are different.

Now I've got to check the other 10's & see what they show...

So sabersaw had it from the start.

SMBv1 has been mentioned several times by different posters.

There have also been several ways (Powershell, Command Line) posted on how to enable it, and how to tell if in fact it is enabled.

XP only understands SMBv1.

The problem with that is that SMBv1 has several security vulnerabilities, and Microsoft advised users over 2 years ago to stop using it...

»blogs.technet.microsoft. ··· ng-smb1/

Not trying to get rid of you, but you might make more progress by finding someone locally who knows home networking and can sit next to you and see what your network configuration actually looks like.
SipSizzurp
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join:2005-12-28
Houston, TX

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said by therube:

.....so no idea what SMB1 settings are set......Sigh

Right click on the desktop and select New Shortcut
Put Control Panel in the box and click next and then OK
Open the new Control.exe icon you just created on the desktop
In the upper right corner of the screen select the option that says Use Large Icons
Locate and open Programs and Features
Locate in the upper left area of the window the option Turn Windows Features On or Off and open it. Then scroll down the list to find SMB 1.0 / CIFS file sharing support
Expand that option to show the two sub options, being the client and server. Check them both. Click OK and close all windows.
XP will now be able to see the shared folders after you finish un-doing half of the other crap you've already done to the poor beast.

OldNavyGuy
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Newberg, OR

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said by SipSizzurp:

scroll down the list to find SMB 1.0 / CIFS file sharing support
Expand that option to show the two sub options, being the client and server. Check them both. Click OK and close all windows

That was already suggested back on page 1.
SipSizzurp
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SipSizzurp

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said by OldNavyGuy:

That was already suggested back on page 1.

You told him what to do, but not how to do it. The title of the thread asks "How to do it". After reading his non conclusive responses it looked like he had no idea how to find the screen shown in your nice screen shot.
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....back on page 1.

You can go here to change your forum preference to show 100 posts per page. Saves a lot of clicking when working on a long thread.
»/prefs/forum

OldNavyGuy
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said by SipSizzurp:

You told him what to do, but not how to do it. The title of the thread asks "How to do it"

I guess you missed the instruction to "Check the SMB 1.0 Client and Server boxes" below the screenshot.

Here, let me help you...

»Re: Networking & Sharing - how to do it?

So yeah, already had been suggested.
OldNavyGuy

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said by SipSizzurp:

You can go here to change your forum preference to show 100 posts per page. Saves a lot of clicking when working on a long thread.

Thanks anyway sparky...doing fine on those clicks.

Saved you one above to re-read that post on changing the SMBv1 settings in Windows Features.

You're welcome.

therube
join:2004-11-11
Randallstown, MD

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You told him what to do, but not how to do it.
Well, basically you're right.
I was able, early on, to get to those settings.
(Finding them, repeatedly, is difficult. As sometimes you're guided there [through that "run" box] & sometimes you're not.)
Two of them were checkmarked, as I noted early on.

The third was not.

I did not realize it also, perhaps, needed to be enabled.
Once that was pointed out, I was all for checking it out, but a little thing called an eye condition sort of took precedence , but then once I was able to make that change, then a lot fell into place.

(Get ready for Stage II .)
SipSizzurp
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said by therube:

(Get ready for Stage II .)

Such a fantastic adventure. We are all very proud of you.

OldNavyGuy
join:2018-07-24
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said by therube:

(Finding them, repeatedly, is difficult. As sometimes you're guided there [through that "run" box] & sometimes you're not.)
Two of them were checkmarked, as I noted early on.

An easy way to find something in Windows 10...

1. Right-click on the Start icon

2. Click on Search

3. Type in the name (i.e. Windows Features, Control Panel).

Learning to use the tools that are available is all part of the process.

therube
join:2004-11-11
Randallstown, MD

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In my case, the issue is NOT resolved, it is currently not an issue - PRESENTLY.

Jinx!
Sigh.

OldNavyGuy
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The same thing in this thread as in your other thread...

Posting a link to someone else's thread, which says exactly the same thing.

What are you trying to accomplish?