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ionbasa
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Re: Forward Path Atenuator?

said by Luke_:

Not sure what Comcast’s max specs are off their taps. Here in cox land, the max levels you will see off a node zero tap is a whopping +26 on the high band, so it’s definitely possible. But it doesn’t mean you’re off node zero necessarily.

The levels aren’t that high to the point you need action imo. Plus if you put that sim in and your provider changes their diplex splits to say a mid split or high split, that antenuator will stop you from seeing some of the upgrades. But yes that will work

I was under the impression that for DOCSIS 3.0 the preferred range for downstream power levels were anywhere from -/+10 dbmv with closer to 0 dbmv with -/+5 dbmv was preferred? I am running an older Arris SB6141 but will likely upgrade to an SB8200 here soon.

Out of curiosity, how would the forward path attenuator prevent mid/high split from working? I was under the impression forward path attenuators only reduce the incoming signal strength without blocking any frequencies or affecting upstream.

EDIT: The 4 port splitter should drop signal by ~7.5db on each port. Theoretically my incoming signal is somewhere around 17db just before the before the splitter, but there are a few items that does not take into account such as: grounding block, moca filter, and the length of cable from the tap to the demarc at the side of the house.

DocDrew
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said by ionbasa:

Out of curiosity, how would the forward path attenuator prevent mid/high split from working? I was under the impression forward path attenuators only reduce the incoming signal strength without blocking any frequencies or affecting upstream.

The forward path attenuator has a frequency where there is no attenuation below it and 6dB of loss above it. That's the dividing line between upstream and downstream. Shifting the upstream frequency split to a higher frequency means part of it may be hit with 6dB attenuation if it's above the dividing frequency.

I'd have to look at the data sheet for the specific attenuator to see where that dividing frequency is.
»www.ppc-online.com/line- ··· enuators
Looks like its around 54 Mhz for the common PPC FPA6-54 found on Amazon.

Franken
join:2016-02-26

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Franken

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PPC shows the frequency response in the data sheet. You can see how it also creates an impairment in the spectrum that a future DOCSIS channel needs to deal with. For a mid-split, you need one that is made for it.

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said by Franken:

ou can see how it also creates an impairment in the spectrum that a future DOCSIS channel needs to deal with. For a mid-split, you need one that is made for it.

It looks like in the 2-4Mhz before 54Mhz, the attenuation is closer to 17dB for a normally 10dB FPAttenuator
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