[BBR] Clan Public → T bias or not T bias these are the questions.....

You know I here just about every day, "this map is t bias this map is ct bias....." do you want to know my opinion? Well your gona here it anyway.

Most maps (in my opinion) are t bias, now before you all start flipin' out just listen.

hostage maps: a smart t team will take advantage of the fact that ct's have to come to them, so they will place themselves accordingly and ambush the ct's. Now I know this dosn't always work but I think you have to agree that the tactic is sound and the advantage is t's.

bomb maps: consider two teams of 8. On most, but not all, bomb maps there are two distinct bomb sites. So the ct team must split up 4 on each site and wait for the t's. The t's on the other hand can stay together and rush one site. If they do a good enough job they should only take minimal casualties. Then they just have 45 sec to defend the bomb, less time if the ct's don't buy kits.

Now I know this dosnt work on all maps. For example sandrush. The t's can rush but both chock points can be covered from either side which makes it harder for the t's to get through because they can be stopped by the entire ct team.

Before you all start tearing this opinion apart I do realize there are always exceptions but in general I think this to be true.

The moral of the story is, don't worry about t bias or ct bias just do your best, and hope you have a good team behind you. If not just remember it won't take long for the next map to come up so just bare with it.

You forget that hostage maps are also designed like bomb maps, where the hostages are divided into two groups that are placed in different locations.

Actually... I don't think this matters anyway. Theoretically, the attackers have the advantage because they know where the defenders are (defending the targets), and the attackers have the mobility. I think the debate about T or CT advantage on maps comes just from the way the maps are designed.

Generally, I think that maps which give higher ground to only one side gives that team a fair advantage over the other team.

Grrr... how do I edit my posts? :/

I mean higher ground to the defenders.

said by LuigiVampa:

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You forget that hostage maps are also designed like bomb maps, where the hostages are divided into two groups that are placed in different locations.

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Not always...

Take assault, for example.

True, true, but we all know that assault is the mother of all T biased maps . It's one huge exception from all rules... hehe

Pretty much all of these maps, are setup for team play...the team that can play as a team, will win most of the time...

now if both teams have team players, this will make for a very intense game play...and should be a draw as far as missions being completed...whether its H rescue or Bombing sites...my opinion only here though...

hmm..teamwork? on the internet? are you kidding me?

said by LuigiVampa:

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You forget that hostage maps are also designed like bomb maps, where the hostages are divided into two groups that are placed in different locations.

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True, but the CTs do not win if they rescue only half of the hostages. Ts on bomb maps don't have to bomb both points to win, only one.

your opinion about bomb maps being biased towards T's may come in effect in Public servers, but in match play it is much harder for T's to win. If the CT's have any kind of skill, 2 of them can take on 4 rushers very easy. An all out rush works in a pub, but it will not work in a actual match. Most of the time, in public play, the CT's end up rushing one direction while they are supposed to be defending. If you tell your team of CT's just to hold the bombsites, chances are you will not lose very many games.
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And thats why Clan Matches are great fun. They are intense and offer some great teamplay. I do miss those..

Congratulations, Carnage!!

Looks like you joined DSLR one year ago today. Hmmm....
Over 3500 posts in a year? Spammer...

Here luigi. And yes, carnage spams the hell outta this forum ;(.

bah.. im no spammer!! All my posts are great, informative and helpful posts!!

Thanks Surge...

SO, if the CT's wanted to they could stay and camp the two bomb sites and wait for the T's to come.

As far as hostage maps, those are very biased. NOT TO MENTION, pisses me off when I'm a T and the team runs out of hostage area, STAY the F')(*)(* there.

Thanks' skrote, but I don't have that link. Perhaps it's because I am not logged in... I'll see if that makes a difference.

Ahh yes, that was it. Coolio
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I guess the fact that everyone goes CT without looking at the teams when they join makes up for the fact that many maps are T biased.

Which brings us to another bias... the CT weapons are superior to the T ones.

No they arent!! AK > Colt

The Colt may be a bit more accurate when shooting faster, but its less powerful. I prefer the AK over the Colt.

The rest of the weapons are pretty much the same.

AUG = SIG
etc...

The CT weapons are better, but the T weapons are cheaper. On some maps I would love to get an AK because I can't afford an M4. Too bad it's not an option.

said by btroke:

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True, but the CTs do not win if they rescue only half of the hostages. Ts on bomb maps don't have to bomb both points to win, only one.

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That is true.. I wonder if someone can make bomb maps that you have to bomb both sites..

I think that would be alot of fun... Each bomb site has there own battle or everyone rushes one site at a time.

The CT weopons are not better. The AK is better than than m4 if the player doesnt just spray. Most people spray and that is why they prefer the M4. The AK is more accurate and powerfull when used right.