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TurtleFan
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Power switch question

Here is what I am looking to do.

I have a monitor that is hooked up with a regular 110 volt plug. I have a PC that is the same. Both are going to be hooked up into a surge protector with USB ports. Would getting something like this shut off EVERYTHING connected to that power strip?

»www.amazon.com/RIITOP-Ex ··· dHJ1ZQ==

maybe plugged into something like this
»www.amazon.com/Kasa-Smar ··· 6&sr=8-4

I am trying to find something simple that doesn't require scary electrical wiring that could start a fire if done wrong. and so far not sure what would work. Trying to re wire my arcade machine to work with a PC and I want everything to be powered off with a power button.

I tried this, but I wired it wrong and started a small fire lol. now i'm scared to try it again that way.
»www.amazon.com/dp/B07QTP ··· _details

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Might want to move this to »Electronics

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The power strip itself already has a switch to shut off everything.

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I second the motion re: Electronics.

Why did it catch fire? Did it draw too much power? Is there a problem with your house wiring (maybe open grounds)?

My personal take on the Amazon outlet strip is that it's overkill. You just need a strip rated for the wattage of the load (all of the things plugged into it) with a simple switch on the strip itself. Those are $10-20 at your preferred big box store, less if they're on sale.

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every power strip i've ever seen had an on/off switch. just turn the strip off. usually a red or lighted rocker.
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what I need is one I can hook up to my front control panel. Already have the hole pre drilled for the one used for the pi .

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The first Amazon item in the OP is strictly for USB. I assume you want ALL power shutdown, not just USB, so this is not a good choice.

The second item is a bit overkill. You could find a cheaper power strip to fit your needs, for instance, you don't need Alexa or Google Home compatibility or individually controlled outlets, but this is your choice, it would still work.

The third item is just a simple single pole (one side of supply), single throw (single output) switch, just use the wiring diagram shown on the Amazon item page. Cut the positive supply line (usually black or red) and connect the plug side to the first tab on the switch, connect the surge strip side to the center tab. You will need to connect the negative supply line (usually white) to both the yellow tab on the switch and the surge strip. Leave the ground (usually green) as is.



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said by TurtleFan:

I tried this, but I wired it wrong and started a small fire lol.

You know that saying try, try, try again?

Don't!!!

I asked to move to electronics.
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said by SparkChaser:

said by TurtleFan:

I tried this, but I wired it wrong and started a small fire lol.

You know that saying try, try, try again?

Don't!!!

I asked to move to electronics.

I'm actually afraid too

»www.amazon.com/dp/B079B7 ··· mc_b_5_i

I also saw this. maybe I can just plug this into a standard power supply and plug that into the wall. I'd just have to make the hole bigger.

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That caught my attention as well. Hoping the OP can find a solution which does not require any DIY wiring. Hence my advice to simplify.
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I don't like the sound of 'just make the hole bigger'. We need more information on the power specification of the arcade machine and this thread needs to move to Electronics.

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said by SparkChaser:

You know that saying try, try, try again?

Don't!!!

Fully agree. If you don't know what you are doing then find someone who does. Safety First.
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said by broknsymetry:

said by SparkChaser:

You know that saying try, try, try again?

Don't!!!

Fully agree. If you don't know what you are doing then find someone who does. Safety First.

the one time I needed them, and no one had what I needed . so, I gave it a try myself first. not such a good idea .
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If the objective is to turn off the monitor when the computer is shut down, then there are power strips with sockets 'controlled' by the power consumption of other sockets.

So, you shut down your computer, the strip detects the current on that socket has gone low, and thus shuts off the controlled sockets.

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Gonna second this. They also should be able to work with the sleep states of modern computers that also use next to nothing when in standby.

If you want a true one-button solution, plug everything into a strip, then plug that into something like this: »www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper ··· 97302213
Mount remote with double sided tape wherever is most convenient.

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You could also use something like this... »www.amazon.com/BindMaste ··· -0143107

Use a properly rated grounded extension cord to plug this up and then plug the surge protector into this.
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said by broknsymetry:

You could also use something like this... »www.amazon.com/BindMaste ··· -0143107

Use a properly rated grounded extension cord to plug this up and then plug the surge protector into this.

yeah, something like that is more what I'm looking for. although my current hole is round so i'd have to make it a tad bigger and square to make that or the other one i linked fit. easy enough to do, and safer than diy wiring

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said by dave:

then there are power strips with sockets 'controlled' by the power consumption of other sockets.

I just threw one away last month. I bought it years ago when it seemed like a good thing.

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said by dave:

If the objective is to turn off the monitor when the computer is shut down, then there are power strips with sockets 'controlled' by the power consumption of other sockets.

So, you shut down your computer, the strip detects the current on that socket has gone low, and thus shuts off the controlled sockets.

This is probably the most elegant solution.

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Just noticed you have a PC connected to the power strip. It is probably not the best idea to shutdown the PC by removing power, you really want a more controlled shutdown either through a command or the PC power switch.

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»www.amazon.ca/Cordinate- ··· 27&psc=1

Something like this will do what you want.

You plug all the arcade stuff into a power bar; plug the power bar into this power switch... the remote switch lets you turn all the power on and off at once.

There's a few other ways to do it, but this would be best, with what I believe your level of electrical skill to be.
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The pricing's great - $7 each. But if you need more than one, you can buy a 3-pack for only $25.
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Not sure the source of the diagram but the text is wrong. When a switch is on the circuit is considered closed, when the switch is off the circuit is open.
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I agree, but it's barely in English to start with.
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said by LazMan:

»www.amazon.ca/Cordinate- ··· 27&psc=1

Something like this will do what you want.

You plug all the arcade stuff into a power bar; plug the power bar into this power switch... the remote switch lets you turn all the power on and off at once.

There's a few other ways to do it, but this would be best, with what I believe your level of electrical skill to be.

that might work. the size isn't too big, so I wouldn't have to make the hole that much bigger. I'll have to give this a try.
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and of course for some reason amazon doesn't want to ship it to my address...maybe cause it's a .ca product.

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Try editing the link to use the US site. Edit out the '.ca' and insert '.com'.

»www.amazon.com/Cordinate ··· 7KFMNJLH
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said by dave:

If the objective is to turn off the monitor when the computer is shut down, then there are power strips with sockets 'controlled' by the power consumption of other sockets.

So, you shut down your computer, the strip detects the current on that socket has gone low, and thus shuts off the controlled sockets.

Something like this for $10.
»www.amazon.com/ECG-7MVR- ··· 058DHO1W

Please don't try cobbling up your own switch. That you previously started a fire doesn't bode well. Also, modern PCs don't switch the a/c line to power off.

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said by dave:

The pricing's great - $7 each. But if you need more than one, you can buy a 3-pack for only $25.

Yes, that's more creative pricing by Amazon. $7 each so $7x3= $21 or you can get a 3 pack for $25! Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?

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That is like my grandfather's store, hot dogs 20¢ each or 4 for a dollar. He sold a lot more dogs for the dollar price.