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maartena
Elmo
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Re: Windows 11 will now run on any computer, SORT OF

said by takeahike:

If you remember my telling you my Windows 10 has an upgrade problem--it gives an error around 55% of the second stage and quits when trying to upgrade to 1903 or a later version. Basically I'm stuck running 1803 and will remain there unless I go through all the hassle of formatting and reinstalling all applications and recovering all my data, something I'm hardly in the mood to do.



You may have to eventually anyways. Besides, it isn't such a bad thing to do a re-install of your OS every 3 years or so. Everything clean, all the old apps you rarely used anyways out of the way, a fresh system on SSD boots up in 15 seconds, even on your hardware.

You will likely be facing this choice sooner rather than later. When Windows 11 on your configuration becomes unsupported and no updates are supplied to it, would you not rather run a fully updated Windows 10?

Also, if you cannot upgrade any versions of Windows 10, something is wrong with your system. Perhaps a fresh install isn't just a good idea from time to time, but it may actually fix things.

This is another reason I want to go to Windows 11 if I can be granted the "generous" opportunity to keep it up to date. I guess we'll have to see what the powers that be at Microsoft decide will be their support decisions come next month.

You can keep Windows 10 and Windows 11 up to date. Just not Windows 11 on 8 year old hardware. I know you do not agree with this, but that is the way it is. If your hardware can do TPM 2.0, great! Windows 11 it is. If it cannot, you stay with Windows 10.

I would think that there will be an option to download an .iso come October 5th instead of just an option to upgrade directly from the server. Wouldn't you think so because of the apparent option to install the operating system on some unsupported systems that's supposed to be within the Media Creation Tool?

There will certainly be ISO files. My Volume Licensing Subscription delivers ISO files for every Windows release that has happened, from 1507 all the way up to 21H1 and soon 21H2. If not that, then the Media Creation Tool can create an ISO for you. I expect that to be the same with Windows 11.

The option to install on unsupported hardware and why it exists has already been explained by me, but it is not meant for production systems.

With you, it seems to be "Must have Windows 11 regardless of the cost, EXCEPT the cost of hardware". You aren't going to listen to the advice of not installing Windows 11 on 8 year old, unsupported hardware. I think only my wife is more stubborn than you. You keep coming back to ISO's and upgrades, and possibly hacking updates with third party tools.... it is almost like you are so blinded by the new shiny of Windows 11 that going back to Windows 10 is the lesser of the two options, regardless of the unsupported state you may find your system in.

Well, you do you, and good luck. But don't say no one warned you when updates stop coming in.....

takeahike
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takeahike

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I saw a couple of fixes that the writers claimed to work for my Windows 10 upgrade problem but they were too complicated for me to follow. A format is probably my only option that I can implement. Personally I don't have any confidence in the Windows Update Assistant that I see as I've gotten the error over several motherboards after several failed attempts. There's kind of another reason I want to stick with the old 1803 version and that is I don't believe that there is support for my areoglass beyond version 1909 that I got here: »www.glass8.eu

maartena
Elmo
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maartena

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said by takeahike:

I saw a couple of fixes that the writers claimed to work for my Windows 10 upgrade problem but they were too complicated for me to follow. A format is probably my only option that I can implement. Personally I don't have any confidence in the Windows Update Assistant that I see as I've gotten the error over several motherboards after several failed attempts. There's kind of another reason I want to stick with the old 1803 version and that is I don't believe that there is support for my areoglass beyond version 1909 that I got here: »www.glass8.eu

Looks like that project was abandoned years ago.

Windows 10 1803 and 1809 both ended support in May 2021. You'll still get extended support security updates, but that is about it.

The plan was actually to end support in November 2020, but they decided to extend it due to Covid. (People working from home could not get their laptops upgraded by IT in many cases)

»docs.microsoft.com/en-us ··· ervicing

So yeah.... you are running an unsupported Windows 10, and are wanting an unsupported Windows 11.

Great plan!

takeahike
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join:2005-01-07
on the moon
·Time Warner Cable

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takeahike

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said by maartena:

said by takeahike:

I saw a couple of fixes that the writers claimed to work for my Windows 10 upgrade problem but they were too complicated for me to follow. A format is probably my only option that I can implement. Personally I don't have any confidence in the Windows Update Assistant that I see as I've gotten the error over several motherboards after several failed attempts. There's kind of another reason I want to stick with the old 1803 version and that is I don't believe that there is support for my areoglass beyond version 1909 that I got here: »www.glass8.eu

Looks like that project was abandoned years ago.

Windows 10 1803 and 1809 both ended support in May 2021. You'll still get extended support security updates, but that is about it.

The plan was actually to end support in November 2020, but they decided to extend it due to Covid. (People working from home could not get their laptops upgraded by IT in many cases)

»docs.microsoft.com/en-us ··· ervicing

So yeah.... you are running an unsupported Windows 10, and are wanting an unsupported Windows 11.

Great plan!

Like I told you it hasn't been my choice to be running version 1803 of Windows 10--I've tried to update it several times over several motherboards but keep getting an error and thus a failure--I just haven't gotten to the point where I'm going to format so I can get a later version running. I suppose that this will eventually happen but I'm not having any trouble at this point and I have other means of protection in the system in an anti-virus, etc. As far as Windows 11 goes, this remains to be seen with Microsoft and what they decide to to. Maybe they will support more installations or some unsupported ones--they haven't always carried out their strict rhetoric in the past and possibly there will be workarounds. We'll see.

I'm not sure the aeroglass project project has been abandoned. He's supported it so far through version 1909--who knows, maybe he'll support it for Windows 11.